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jon_s
10-30-2003, 06:41 AM
http://www.jabbasworld.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=783&password=&sort=1&size=medium&cat=501&page=

Take a look, is that a second little caliper?? Or just errr...well I cannot think what it is...anti-warp thingy!


p.s nice pics sikx5

pps!! lol, sorry this should have been in car chat!
cho_888
10-30-2003, 06:43 AM
i wouldnt have a clue your guess is as good as mine. is there any "mechanics" around?
jon_s
10-30-2003, 06:45 AM
Do you see what I mean though...I have never seen anything like that before.
TT
10-30-2003, 06:52 AM
Same as in the Challenege Stradale, a friend of mine into the businness explained me it's the "handbrake"
jon_s
10-30-2003, 07:30 AM
Ah HA! That would explain it! Cheers!
TT
10-30-2003, 07:36 AM
:) I was completely clueless too, but he was 100% sure :)

Here is the pic I took at Geneva 2003:

http://www.jabbasworld.net/photopost/data/501/83P1010022.jpg
jon_s
10-30-2003, 07:45 AM
Yes indeed! Cheeky little caliper!...I say little, but it is probably bigger than my front calipers lo'
deth
10-30-2003, 12:42 PM
ya, its the handbrake..i asked a ferrari guy at teh car show...hehe u cant get a good shot of it but it actually says brembo on it...i'll see if i can find hee pic i took
deth
10-30-2003, 12:47 PM
http://www.jabbasworld.net/photopost/data/501/708115-1599_IMG.jpg
deth
10-30-2003, 01:14 PM
i know its a little off topic, bout i have pix from the 2003 canadian auto show....nebody interested in them?
scubywrxr
10-30-2003, 01:25 PM
Yeah post the Canadian pics please - would be interesting to see what u got that side of the world
stracing
10-30-2003, 11:37 PM
get a pic of the murcielago, its shows it very clearly
and yes deth is right
f0racer
10-30-2003, 11:57 PM
:shock: I did not know this! Anyone know if the ‘hand brake” contributes to the stopping power?
KaBlookie
10-31-2003, 01:12 AM
hmm...that's weird that it's the handbrake cause very few cars have that double-caliper setup. The only car that i can remember i've ever seen it on is the Porsche Carrera GT, i kno i've seen it on one or two others, but i cant remember right now.

nice find tho!
cho_888
10-31-2003, 02:41 AM
i think the reason is, becaus eif you race and really brake hard, your discs heat up and when you stop and leave the car witht he hand brake on it sticks or melts to the disc and so you left with you hand brake on until you spend a lot of money on new carbon ceramic brakes. So the second may be so that after you go hard and fast you can jam on the hand brake with out this problem. This is my theory.
jon_s
10-31-2003, 05:06 AM
^^^I agree with that, I was thinking along those lines.
alondahan
10-31-2003, 08:03 AM
there's a seperate handbrake caliper in the 360 and 550 as well.
KaBlookie
10-31-2003, 02:44 PM
i think the reason is, becaus eif you race and really brake hard, your discs heat up and when you stop and leave the car witht he hand brake on it sticks or melts to the disc and so you left with you hand brake on until you spend a lot of money on new carbon ceramic brakes. So the second may be so that after you go hard and fast you can jam on the hand brake with out this problem. This is my theory.

I kinda see where you're going here, but why would it be needed on cars that already have carbon ceramic brakes (like the enzo and the CGT)? At first, I thought it was to help stabilize the brake disk under consistant and hard braking...
Chingachgook
11-01-2003, 04:41 AM
The second caliper is for the handbrake, like the 360, the Gallardo... :wink:
SDK2003
11-02-2003, 07:49 AM
As cho_888 posted - It's for the handbrake.

Reason - Regardless of what material brakes you have on a car, after 10mins+ of blasting around a track you come into the pits and leave the car with the handbrake on it will weld itself to the rear disc.

I've seen a lot cars come into the pits with the brakes on fire so you can imagine how hot they get
TT
11-02-2003, 08:02 AM
But I just wonder why you have to use the handbrake on a pitlane where the ground is flat ;)
stradale
11-02-2003, 08:09 AM
Good point TT. There are so many people who use the handbrake every time they stop the engine. Apparently they have no idea what it's for. That always amazes me. Next time someone does that I'm going to ask that person the simple question why? I bet he or she doesn't have an answer but "just because".
scubywrxr
11-02-2003, 08:33 AM
As every track racer and track day driver knows ..DONT USE THE HANDBRAKE IN THE PITS! :wink: ^ as above - when u want to take off to do a few more hot laps hmmm.. car feels very sluggish, in fact it is standind still coz the the damn rear pads have welded themselves to the disks! that is one expensive repair job :twisted:
scubywrxr
11-02-2003, 08:38 AM
My understanding is that the handbrake is for helping u around tighter corners .. since when does everyone use handbrakes to park their cars?
Thats what the "P" is for on automatics and the "1" and "R" are for on manuals muthas... :mrgreen:
stradale
11-02-2003, 09:02 AM
When you've parked on a descend and your brakes aren't hot and it's not freezing hard outside you use the handbrake. And of course to do turns with it as well :wink:
scubywrxr
11-02-2003, 01:14 PM
Now that u mentioned it .. I jammed the handbrake solid on my previous car a hyundai elantra.. We have a little"rally stage" just out of Durban where I stay.. was using the handbrake around the corners to get the tail out and generally behave badly... suddenly after a heavy pull on it - "WHUMP"... locked solid.. The handbrake got so hot it warped the drums and the linings actually boiled off into them.. just one more application was needed and the whole assembly was glued/welded solid :mrgreen: