Live for speed S2

[topgeartom]

For any of you interested in possibly the best online driving sim out there - the long awauted S2 version is finally here (well, in alpha demo form)

Ive had a quick play, and th esound is vastly improoved, as well as the graphics and the car physics used.

Head over here to get it: www.liveforspeed.net

[Daggernite]

You dont have to tell me twice, I'm there!

[ARMAN]

Woooooooooooooohhhhhooooooooo!!!!! Thanx Tom!!! :P

[|Nuno|]

Thanks Tom, I'll defenitely check it! :D

[Ziploc]

jabbasworld demo server anyone?

we can all have some cup races :)

[topgeartom]

Right, i have set up a server called:

Jabbaworld.net racing

It will be a public server, so please use your same JW names if you join :)

Look farward to racing you bitches!!!

[SFDMALEX]

Right, i have set up a server called:

Jabbaworld.net racing

It will be a public server, so please use your same JW names if you join :)

Look farward to racing you bitches!!!

What time exactly?

[topgeartom]

i had it up from about 3:30-6:30 GMT.

Tommorrow i expect it will be up from around 3:30 to 10:00. Thats 15:30 to 22:00 for those of you on 24-hour clocks :P

[SFDMALEX]

i had it up from about 3:30-6:30 GMT.

Tommorrow i expect it will be up from around 3:30 to 10:00. Thats 15:30 to 22:00 for those of you on 24-hour clocks :P

I doubt anybody will come. Ill be there though, first need to install it aswel.

[ARMAN]

Cant say if I'll be there. We'll see :)

http://img233.exs.cx/img233/2196/lfs13uh.th.jpg (http://img233.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img233&image=lfs13uh.jpg)
:mrgreen:


Btw, Dan or TT or Jabba, is it possible to make somehow JW be a privat host permanently with JW as password? Cause for example I cannot get there when in specific time? So anytime anyone from JW when they have a minute(read hours :D ) will be able to race any time of day/night? I dont know if it eat some bandwith or so.. :? Thats would be nice :P

EDIT: Tom, I cannot see it there... :( well it might be late already :?

[Ziploc]

Any recent news on LFS? maybe if we advertise in the GENERAL section or front page we can organize a little league! its easy for anyone to join seeing as its free and supports many control types

[ARMAN]

Havnt seen anything giong on in LFS so just racing in any hosted game I can find suitable for me :?

[SFDMALEX]

Any recent news on LFS? maybe if we advertise in the GENERAL section or front page we can organize a little league! its easy for anyone to join seeing as its free and supports many control types

Not a chance man. I've tried it for a couple of years, never worked.

[Ziploc]

grrr

this is the easiest game for EVERYONE to get into!

[Daggernite]

im up for a race if theres another one going to happen. A PM would be great if there is gonna be another one, since I'm crap at keeping track of things.

[SilviaEvo]

damn i dont have a wheel :? i've played it before but it sucks without a wheel

[topgeartom]

yeah, it does really help if you have a wheel. I might be able to set up a server this weekend, as im snowed under with work all this week. I'll let you all know nearer the time

[ARMAN]

Tom, is it possible to make it somehow permanent as I said few posts above? I dont understand this stuff really :?
I'd race but I cannot be at specific time :|

@SilviaEvo - play with mouse its great after a bit of training :wink:

[|Nuno|]

Well, I'm on the same boat as Daggernite:

If a race takes place, I'm in but yeah, a PM would be nice.

[Ziploc]

btw how are you all enjoying lfs?

[|Nuno|]

btw how are you all enjoying lfs?

Just got back from a small practise session, and I have to say that it's fantastic. Puts to shame many of the so called "Top end car games".


By the way, I have a few questions for you guys:

For the people who are using wheels, what settings are you using?
(I have the black Momo wheel and I'm not happy with the current settings)

What's your best lap on the XF GT Turbo at Blackwood?

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I see the tyre temperatures?

And lastly, is anyone up for an online race? :P


Thanks in advance. :D

[ARMAN]

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I see the tyre temperatures?

F9.. or F10

Game is fantastic! :P Better than anything I tryed.

[|Nuno|]

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I see the tyre temperatures?

F9.. or F10

Game is fantastic! :P Better than anything I tryed.

Thanks man! Now I'm off for some fun. :mrgreen:

[Daggernite]

Really is a great sim. I think the fact that your sat in a car, you get the feeling that your in something and not just seeing through a camra bolted on the front of the car like GT4. Simulation wise its very go too. I love it actually. I even like crashing and watching the replay :lol:

If anyone wants a race partner, just pm me or msn me. I noticed alot of the online games, people dont take it that serious and crash on purpose, so a proper race would be nice. I'm looking forwards to Toms weekend race actually. My fastest lap is 1:45 but I'm guessing thats slow because I was spectating online and a guy got 1:37.

[topgeartom]

I'm no Schumacher, havent ever recorded my time, so im not sure what the best lap ive done is.

*Unfortuenatelty, the online game may have to take place on Sunday as i am going to my birthplace (and the hometown of TransAm) for a day out and a meal as its my dads birthday today.

As i said before, ill let you knwo nearer the time when it will be on,a nd drop those who have asked a PM.

[Ziploc]

btw how are you all enjoying lfs?

Just got back from a small practise session, and I have to say that it's fantastic. Puts to shame many of the so called "Top end car games".


By the way, I have a few questions for you guys:

For the people who are using wheels, what settings are you using?
(I have the black Momo wheel and I'm not happy with the current settings)

What's your best lap on the XF GT Turbo at Blackwood?

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I see the tyre temperatures?

And lastly, is anyone up for an online race? :P


Thanks in advance. :D

theres a wheel turn compensation in the MISC menu you might wanna fiddle with. i have a black momo with linear settings and i love it.

[|Nuno|]

btw how are you all enjoying lfs?

Just got back from a small practise session, and I have to say that it's fantastic. Puts to shame many of the so called "Top end car games".


By the way, I have a few questions for you guys:

For the people who are using wheels, what settings are you using?
(I have the black Momo wheel and I'm not happy with the current settings)

What's your best lap on the XF GT Turbo at Blackwood?

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I see the tyre temperatures?

And lastly, is anyone up for an online race? :P


Thanks in advance. :D

theres a wheel turn compensation in the MISC menu you might wanna fiddle with. i have a black momo with linear settings and i love it.

Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out.

[|Nuno|]

Eh... I guess I won't be able to make it on Sunday. Stupid family lunch... :bah:


Is anyone up for a game now? I could create a server...

[Tege]

Go check out www.liveforspeed.net :)

[topgeartom]

SHIT THE BED!

thank you very very much for that tege - i check the site daily, but somehow managed to miss that this morning!!! lol

[saadie]

LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??

[topgeartom]

LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??

I have the full S1, and will be buying the full S2 as soon as it is released on the 24th

[Tege]

LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??
Full version (S2alpha) will be out 24th June.

No offence but 1.46 is really slow... that's with GTI at Blackwood, right? You need some practise :)

[RC45]

LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??

Honestly... is this LFS really that good?

I tried LFS1 and it has such a "fake" over-simulated feel to it. If tyres in real life had as little grip and cars were as unpredictably under-steering in the real world, the freewyas would have piles of econo-boxes at the end of every off ramp.

The net result was you end up having to learn the nuances of "playing the controller" rather than driving the car - plus the entire install was not as plug-n-play as it could have been.

S - is LFS2 an improvement - or have y'all just mastered the interface better than I could... :P

[Tege]

Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
The best! S1 was good but S2 is better in every way.

[topgeartom]

Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
The best! S1 was good but S2 is better in every way.

what the man says :P

The cars are shockingly realistic. you have the spritely little GTI, that like any small, high powerd front wheel drive car, will plough straight on in corners if you dont ease off a bit. As for the rear wheel drive GT's you jsut have to learn to control the car. If you have a decent wheel, pedals and clutch set up then sure it takes practice, but with time you can really learn to controll it, and before you know it, you will be slipping it into corners at 60mph in 3rd with the back end sat neatly out of line. Modulating the throttle and clutch a little to keep it all tidy and you can have a howl.

Just spend a bit of time learning how the cars work and youll find that it is one of the best, if not THE best racing simulator of all time.

I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way, but for now, LFS does the job more than adequately - not only is it accurate, and immensly rewarding if you spend the time, it can also be instantly fun with just a keyboard and a few minutes to spare.

Apologies for the essay :P

[RC45]

^^^ in other words it is still about mastering the PC input device rather than the vehicle? ;) :P

Because I can tell you, when throwing my parents FWD cars around on "unauthorized mid-night jaunts" you can get a surprising amount of grip from even street tyres - albeit a lot of squealing and body roll and skidding - but you actually do get round the bend eventually :)

"Games" seem to have you just shoot off into the runoff like a rubber band.. ;)

[ARMAN]

I play mostly online on the car park, just fooling around :mrgreen: Cause on the normal track I am the last most of the time :(

[SFDMALEX]

I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,

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ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? :D

[SFDMALEX]

"Games" seem to have you just shoot off into the runoff like a rubber band.. ;)

But HOW :shock: Its the best sim on the planet you know :wink: :lol:

But you are talking the truth, I can get a surprising amount of grip from a chevy venture van on highway off/on ramps, lots of tire sqeal but plenty of grip too.

[Blip]

I've had major problems with controlling the cars even in a straight line.
When i use keyboard, the car's wheels can be turned in variable amounts.

But with a game controller, turning left or right locks the wheels completely. Somehow this makes driving much easier, as the car is more responsive.

The best way to see if a game is not really a simulation is to see if small children can play it well. Any children here to prove my theory :P

[topgeartom]

I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? :D

Ohhhhh deary me......someone really doesnt know when to let things drop. Youve surpassed my expectations once again.

[SFDMALEX]

I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? :D

Ohhhhh deary me......someone really doesnt know when to let things drop. Youve surpassed my expectations once again.

Well you plain ol tom to me, still didnt learn how to play have ya? :lol:

[topgeartom]

i only 'play along' to things that may one day be funny.

[SFDMALEX]

Good one :roll:

[saadie]

^^^ :lol:
No offence but 1.46 is really slow... that's with GTI at
Blackwood, right? You need some practise :)
it was actually a GT turbo :D ... ell dot wory im improving ... last night i got a 1:40 :roll: ...

Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
is there anything better .... :roll:

ohh and RC .. its not about how fake the game is ... its about how much you enjoy it ......

[saadie]

wtf :roll: this is the second post i cant delete :?

[SFDMALEX]

Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
is there anything better .... :roll:


Sure there is. LFS is a solid ONLINE DRIVING SIMULATOR, thats about it. Physics are good but far from top stuff, cars are fictional, tracks are fictional, graphics are far from special...its just a different type of sim :) Its something you go to fix when you dont want to race AI, but I really dont see my self lapping in LFS offline, it just doesnt have anything going for it in the offline mode.

[saadie]

is there anything better ....
really ..... i really cant think of anyhting better ....
LFS is a driving simulator and its works pritty good imo .....
its fun .... and thats what matters more then it being worse then any other game ..

[RC45]

^^ GTR is great fun offline for me... haven't bothered with the online.

GT4 is really fun - if only because the Logitech DFP adds a lot.

Come to think of it, every thing I tried with the DFP has felt "funner".

LFS1 left me with a bad taste - it was almost as if the it was too simulated... and that is what lost some of the fun for me - because when I tried to anticipate what the car would do, I found myslef not having mastered the nuances of the controller in their engine yet - that's all.

And with so many sims and driving games out there - you can't really run em all - maybe one day... ;)

[saadie]

well .... im gonna buy GTR .... hope its still in the market ... :roll:
RC u are somehow or the other right about LFS .... it looks like a simulator but its not a simulator .. its just another game ... i just realised this wile messing with the settings ..... :roll:

And with so many sims and driving games out there - you can't really run em all - maybe one day...;)
yeah ... but who need all of em ... i just need a couple of good ones :D

btw ... when u but the PS3 send me yer old PS2 :P :mrgreen:

[Tege]

LFS is more simulator that any other game. Think about it there isn't much game in LFS. No career mode or anything like it. It's just pure simulation of racing and driving. No other game does that better. About physics there's more stuff simulated in than maybe in any other game and it's only (almost) 2/3 done. So what if there's no proper offline. You can't ever make AI's drive like humans atleast not in a long time.

And for people who rate the game playing it on other controller than a good force feedback wheel. Come on could you drive a car with keyboard or on gamepad?

I know LFS S1 has it's problems but it still used to a lot of fun. Most physics stuff are corrected in S2. I've been "with" LFS from the beginning and now I'm "closer" to it than ever.

This maybe sounded like I don't know any other game than LFS. I've been playing driving games since GP1 and have tried all the other good games in the market now but never had more fun in other games.

[topgeartom]

LFS is more simulator that any other game. Think about it there isn't much game in LFS. No career mode or anything like it. It's just pure simulation of racing and driving. No other game does that better. About physics there's more stuff simulated in than maybe in any other game and it's only (almost) 2/3 done. So what if there's no proper offline. You can't ever make AI's drive like humans atleast not in a long time.

And for people who rate the game playing it on other controller than a good force feedback wheel. Come on could you drive a car with keyboard or on gamepad?

I know LFS S1 has it's problems but it still used to a lot of fun. Most physics stuff are corrected in S2. I've been "with" LFS from the beginning and now I'm "closer" to it than ever.

This maybe sounded like I don't know any other game than LFS. I've been playing driving games since GP1 and have tried all the other good games in the market now but never had more fun in other games.

A-MEN to that

[SFDMALEX]

It's just pure simulation of racing and driving. No other game does that better. About physics there's more stuff simulated in than maybe in any other game.

No its not :wink:

[saadie]

It's just pure simulation of racing and driving. No other game does that better. About physics there's more stuff simulated in than maybe in any other game.
No its not ;)

it is made in such a way that its looks like a 'true simulator' .... and its not a pure simulation, its just a game ..........
how aboout areodynamics ... is that also included in the game ... and just check out the tire wear .... even F1 wheels from couple of years back would do better :lol:

[Tege]

It's just pure simulation of racing and driving. No other game does that better. About physics there's more stuff simulated in than maybe in any other game.
No its not ;)

it is made in such a way that its looks like a 'true simulator' .... and its not a pure simulation, its just a game ..........
how aboout areodynamics ... is that also included in the game ... and just check out the tire wear .... even F1 wheels from couple of years back would do better :lol:
Yes it has aerodynamics... drag and downforce... you can slipstream. Aerodynamics aren't really complex yet, though. What's wrong with tyre wear?

[saadie]

k ... sry fer the late post ... but it dont have aerodynamics ..... welll atlast they dont work fer me ..... and the best thing of all ... the AI drivers are do damn intelligent .. tht they can go anywhere except fer my ass ... htey just come and bag yer spinning ...... the inteligence is crap .... the main thing in a simulation is artificial intelligence .... and the tye wear is not all tht much realistic ...

[RC45]

.. tht they can go anywhere except fer my ass ...

Hhmmm - I don't think you meant to post this here.. ;)

[saadie]

lol .. k .. my car's ass .... :lol:
really .... they got no AI atall .... the jsut bang into yer cars arse and u spin arround .. tht pisses me off .... lol :mrgreen: ..... sometimes i think this game is made by gays .... but oh welll ...

[SFDMALEX]

k ... sry fer the late post ... but it dont have aerodynamics ..... welll atlast they dont work fer me ..... and the best thing of all ... the AI drivers are do damn intelligent .. tht they can go anywhere except fer my ass ... htey just come and bag yer spinning ...... the inteligence is crap .... the main thing in a simulation is artificial intelligence .... and the tye wear is not all tht much realistic ...


Ahh in this day and age no earo in simulation is a joke. LFS does have aro simulation and yeah the tire model aint all that great either.

And the main thing in a simulation is simulating the car physics and not AI :wink: AI will never behave like humans, its forever going to stay that way, everythihng will move forward except the AI.

[saadie]

mannn .... even in need for spped 3 ... the AI cars avoided you if you were in the way :| .. and with the car physicsthe AI should also be good .. how can you call a simulation a simulation if the opponents are banging into you .....
anyways .... i guess thats y its called a multiplayer game ..... play it online or suffer the conciquences :roll:

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\ At first they will, in LFS the AI gets calibrated after a few laps, you need to drive with them for a few laps then they become good.

[saadie]

^^ .... haha what good is that .... when yer a lap behind then after all the ass bashing :lol:

[Tege]

Aero modeling is similar to many other games and it'll improve in time. Street cars aero modeling is quite simple but no need to be more complex because there are no wings etc. Cars with wings have more complex aero modeling. There's downforce, drag, slipstreaming (which works also on normal cars) and loss of downforce when close to other cars.

Tyrewear is quite realistic. The super tyres in demo cars are like high performance street tyres and you can drive the GT Turbo at blackwood over 50 laps without worrying about tyre wear.

The AI in LFS is different than in any other game. It uses the same physics as you and it gets faster all the time. AI will be better in final release.

Test the tyre physics tomorrow they are better than in demo and they will be better before the final S2 release.

[hwe]

S2 Alpha full is out now.

[topgeartom]

Ive got it downloaded, and will be unlocking it in a few mins

[SlickDizzy]

Anyone here still playing? I'm usually on multiple times a day, my player name is SlickDizzy if anyone wants to search me out.

[jakaracman]

Yeah, but since lasdt patch I'm having some lag probs. Otherwisae, at least a few hours a week ...

[ARMAN]

From time to time but mostly on car park playing online LFS "carmageddon" :mrgreen: On the normal track everyone except noobs leave me in the dust :|

[Ziploc]

Banger racing is a huge riot. You must try the server in LFS

[Tege]

Ill bring this back up again because of this http://www.liveforspeed.net/countdown/

Oh yes licensed F1 car in LFS. And some other stuff too http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=t_a_u

[ARMAN]

:shock: thanx for letting know, tell later guys how it is :P