tipping at restaurants

[dingo]

I just wanted to know what the 'rules' regarding this are in countries around the world?
Here it isn't really expected I believe, but when I was in Vancouver/LA about a year ago my brother and I were always expected to give a tip which pissed us off :P We went to the buffet place in the hotel we stayed at (The Westin - thanks Alaskan Airlines :P ) in LA and we had bargained on spending a certain amount and then we had to add another 10% for the tip :D
I mean the stupid restaurants should price their meals so that all their costs are covered and that staff don't need to resort to getting tips to have a decent wage :x You don't see a mechanic asking for a tip after he fixes your car....it just doesn't make sense to me :?

[Daggernite]

I understand what u mean. We dont tip in UK, but when we go abroad to Spain or similar holiday places, you are genrally considered to give a tip. Also when u travel to a diffrent country and aint use to the currency, its tricky, because you dont know how much is a good or bad tip. My mum got too confused and tiped the staff £50 :?

[RC45]

Considering the tip is for the waiter/waitress who makes very little money compared to the restaurant owner - the tip is a bonus for good service.

But if the waiter stops to talk about his car and think at your table you may reconsider the tip... ;)

[ARMAN]

Here are no tips as rule, if you give something its good, if not nobody will say nothing. If you go to the same restaurant you should give so they remember you and give you better service than usual but its dumb imo, they make f*kin money already and should give best service they can already why should I pay something over? I usually dont give anything :mrgreen: only if I feel that persone does something more that is not in his normal work.... :? I hope you get it :mrgreen:

[evoWalo]

Over here you really dont need to give tips though you feel like giving them since they're normally paid minimum wage. I withold the tip if the service was lousy.

[dingo]

Considering the tip is for the waiter/waitress who makes very little money compared to the restaurant owner - the tip is a bonus for good service.

But if the waiter stops to talk about his penis extension and masturbate at your table you may reconsider the tip... ;)

but even if the service was average (or below) they still expect it.....they should be at their best at all times and except the wage they have :wink: If I do something for a customer at work that makes t.h.e.m h.appy with my service I don't expect a tip :?

If its a waitress (i.e. female) then she can masturbate all she likes and will get a BIG tip from me....... :P

[RC45]

Well - if they do stop to think about their boy friend's car - you should simply thank them instead of feeling the need to give them a tip ... unless you just want to lol it off as a sorry experience :)

[dingo]

Well - if they do stop to masturbate about their boy friend's penis extension - you should simply fuck hong kong phooey instead of feeling the need to give hong kong phooey a tip ......

well being the slut I am thats exactly what I would do :P

[astonmartinandy]

I understand what u mean. We dont tip in UK, but when we go abroad to Spain or similar holiday places, you are genrally considered to give a tip. Also when u travel to a diffrent country and aint use to the currency, its tricky, because you dont know how much is a good or bad tip. My mum got too confused and tiped the staff £50 :?

What do you mean that we don't tip in the UK? I work part time in a restaurant, and the service charge at the end usually doubles my wage! 10% is the accepted charge in the UK, but it is always at the discretion of the customer; if service is awful, little or no tip should follow [and vice versa]

[stracing]

in china no tip is required but its nice to give some if the service is good. every dollar helps over there. in hong kong, 10% is added to your bill automatically. this pisses me off so i never give a tip. service would have to be extremely good to give some.

[dingo]

....in hong kong, 10% is added to your bill automatically. this pisses me off so i never give a tip. service would have to be extremely good to give some.

same in Vancouver...we bought some pancakes for breakfast and they ended up costing us ~$22 and tasted like shit because it was more like maple syrup soup with pancake pieces in it :?

[jon_s]

I understand what u mean. We dont tip in UK, but when we go abroad to Spain or similar holiday places, you are genrally considered to give a tip. Also when u travel to a diffrent country and aint use to the currency, its tricky, because you dont know how much is a good or bad tip. My mum got too confused and tiped the staff £50 :?

What do you mean that we don't tip in the UK? I work part time in a restaurant, and the service charge at the end usually doubles my wage! 10% is the accepted charge in the UK, but it is always at the discretion of the customer; if service is awful, little or no tip should follow [and vice versa]

I was going to say. Usually it a menu will say if a tip is included or not. 10% is the usual tip here.

[mindgam3]

Do you not have to pay a service charge in America which is basically the tip?

In the UK, service charge is included in the prices of the meals - giving a tip in the UK is out of generosity and down to whether you actually want to or not. I.e if you're a generous person and you've been served well, give a tip.... if not don't give them fuck all :P

But as has been said its at the discretion of the customer... which is not the case in the US correct?

[DeMoN]

Where I come from, you almost never tip the waiter. Over in america, well, not only do I have to pay more for anythihng, but I have to worry about how much tip to give.

At least its not as bad as Germany. In germany, once you are payin you have to tell OUT LOUD the lady or man how much tip you want to leave.

I mean, say you need top lay 80$ and you give him/her 100$ then you have to say 10$ back meaning his/her tip is 10$

Imagine paying and saying $20 back lol 0 tip, that takes some balls to say outloud.

[TransAm]

Do you not have to pay a service charge in America which is basically the tip?

In the UK, service charge is included in the prices of the meals - giving a tip in the UK is out of generosity and down to whether you actually want to or not. I.e if you're a generous person and you've been served well, give a tip.... if not don't give them fuck all :P

But as has been said its at the discretion of the customer... which is not the case in the US correct?

It is assumed you will tip every time, 15% is customary, regardless of the service, and more than 15% if the service was excellent. I tip the hairdresser a bit more than 15% but I get on well with her and bear in mind next time I go in they have scissors inches from my face lol!

You sometimes see on menus that the tip will be automatically be applied to the bill for large parties (more than 6 at a sitting).

A handful of occasions I haven't tipped here in the US, as the service/food was that bad. I always leave a note on the bill saying why I didnt leave a tip. The last time we went out my wife wanted to leave the waitress a note along the lines of don't flirt with peoples husbands lol

You are also supposed to tip taxi drivers but as they are all f-ing useless here (unless you are going to the airport or downtown they expect you to know the way) and the cabs are generally unmaintained to the point of being dangerous I rarely tip cabbies.

I am reluctant to tip bar staff when I am sat at the bar, as they havent really had to do much other than pour the drink. Yes you get served quicker putting the odd $1 bill in the jar, but then I get very vocal if I get served out of turn anyway :wink: and most people here are polite enough to take turns.

I only tip in the UK if the service is outstanding and I could afford to, call me tight but I worked in service industries all the way through college and uni (in the UK) and if you go the extra mile you feel you've earned it.

[antonioledesma]

here we usually tip because, just as RC says, most part of waiter/waitress service makes minumim wage. A cousin and his mother worked serving at a restaurant and they made a decent living because of tips
in mexico you give between 10 and 15% depending on the service.
in some men's clubs you must be aware of the price list, i.e. you order a bottle of vodka, usd100, but with no tax or service, so you end paying 115 with tax, then the waiters charge you the extra 15%, bloody thieves, ending with a 132usd bill

of course some waiters face you the moment when they see that the tip was poor, but they gave a lousy service

[TransAm]

here we usually tip because, just as RC says, most part of waiter/waitress service makes minumim wage. A cousin and his mother worked serving at a restaurant and they made a decent living because of tips
in mexico you give between 10 and 15% depending on the service.
in some men's clubs you must be aware of the price list, i.e. you order a bottle of vodka, usd100, but with no tax or service, so you end paying 115 with tax, then the waiters charge you the extra 15%, bloody thieves, ending with a 132usd bill

of course some waiters face you the moment when they see that the tip was poor, but they gave a lousy service

Excepting all-inclusive holiday resorts, right antonio?

Every credit to the waiters coming to find out why you didnt tip though. Gives you the opportunity to say why!

Edit- bloody expensive Vodka down your way by the way mate!

[antonioledesma]

here we usually tip because, just as RC says, most part of waiter/waitress service makes minumim wage. A cousin and his mother worked serving at a restaurant and they made a decent living because of tips
in mexico you give between 10 and 15% depending on the service.
in some men's clubs you must be aware of the price list, i.e. you order a bottle of vodka, usd100, but with no tax or service, so you end paying 115 with tax, then the waiters charge you the extra 15%, bloody thieves, ending with a 132usd bill

of course some waiters face you the moment when they see that the tip was poor, but they gave a lousy service

Excepting all-inclusive holiday resorts, right antonio?

Every credit to the waiters coming to find out why you didnt tip though. Gives you the opportunity to say why!

Edit- bloody expensive Vodka down your way by the way mate!

in all-inclusive and some medium class resorts you don't pay tips, imagine carrying your wallet just to tip

that expensive vodka shows in a men's club, you know, those things were chicks dance while getting rid of their clothes :D , so you end up paying for the show with those astronomical prices
and in these kind of places, waiters can't be told that they gave you a lousy service because they mob you with a couple of security guards, and that is very very scary

[TransAm]

^ Ahh, I see what you mean now, I was thinking Men's clubs as in Gentlemens clubs, like for posh rich old men in London, not those kind of clubs lol

I can honestly say I have never been to any strip club ever! Only cos I can't trust myself to keep my hands to myself and am aware of the consequences!

[Fleischmann]

A tip equalling 10% of the value of the meal is appropriate. However, many restaurants take a commision for the service automatically, if so it would be written in the menu (also usually 10%). A tip isn't needed then.

[antonioledesma]

^ Ahh, I see what you mean now, I was thinking Men's clubs as in Gentlemens clubs, like for posh rich old men in London, not those kind of clubs lol

I can honestly say I have never been to any strip club ever! Only cos I can't trust myself to keep my hands to myself and am aware of the consequences!

oops, sorry, I forgot those were called stripclubs, but some are very fancy, you only have access to a membership with an invitation of an insider or member.
and it's really hard not to grab something or a bite with one of those strippers :mrgreen:

[DeMoN]

I heard in the radio that some people leave 1 penny when they want to let the waiter/ess now they suked lol. Anyone done this?

[TransAm]

it's really hard not to grab something or a bite with one of those strippers :mrgreen:

Grrrr! Tiger! j/k the bite comment made me LOL!

I heard in the radio that some people leave 1 penny when they want to let the waiter/ess now they suked lol. Anyone done this?

I heard that somewhere too, DeMoN.

[Sm@ck]

I hate tipping.

I hate the fact that I have to walk around in certain countries with money in my pocket because of the tipping culture. It is not that I am not appreciative of the service, but put it on my bill.

[666fast]

I heard in the radio that some people leave 1 penny when they want to let the waiter/ess now they suked lol. Anyone done this?

Yes. Well, I didn't leave one penny, but I've been mad enough to grab some change out of my pocket and leave that.
I dont' mind leaving a tip, waiters and such get paid pretty crappy and depend on tips here. So, they do a good job, they get a good tip.

Not too long ago, a girl was tipped $15,000!! It was on the news, she was working three jobs to put herself through school and during conversation, she mentioned it to her customer. I guess he decided to help out!

I hate the fact that I have to walk around in certain countries with money in my pocket because of the tipping culture. It is not that I am not appreciative of the service, but put it on my bill.

Tell them you want it on the bill, they'll do it for you.

[blah]

you have to be careful. Some resturants add the tip into the total price, always read at the bottom of your menus.

[DeMoN]

thats why I eat reheated stuff or canned tuna/salmon. no tips involved, thank you.

[TransAm]

write a tip on the napkin (learn better customer service and maybe you'll make more)

Not quite the words I have used in the past but thats the gist of what I do if it's crap.

Side note: Went out for a meal tonite, bill was $29 I tipped $4.50. Reasonable meal but great service

Charlestons, Hulen St, Ft Worth (in case you are that bored you wanna look it up lol)

[DR.GONZO]

do you tip your pizza delivery guy? Just to add on another question?

[dingo]

do you tip your pizza delivery guy? Just to add on another question?

never.....I am a tight ass and the pizza is expensive enough as it is :D I usually make pizza at home myself - cheaper and tastes better :wink:

[dingo]

..........iamb up to 5 bucks an hour from the casino and the rest comes from the players (tips).......

jeez they have lousy wages over there, is there no such thing as a minimum wage there? Here you are not allowed by law to pay an adult under ~ $13/hr (about $10 USD) and most get more (besides the ones who work at fast food outlets etc.). I am working at a place and get $20/hr ($15.5 USD) although it requires some knowledge (i.e. univeristy or some other study) but your wage still seems fairly low? :?

[TransAm]

do you tip your pizza delivery guy? Just to add on another question?

Yeah, get pizza once a week, the bill is always around $15-16 - I give two bucks back when I get my change.

[ldin]

ok,let me say this: If you have money to go out,but dont have to tip...DO NOT fucking go out...
i work in a upscale italian cusine family style restaurant, if theres one thing i hate..is people who do not know how to tip...i have been here for 5years(at work now hehe) but seriously, 10%? 15%? What the fuck!...i work 7days a week, sometimes i take a day off here and there, but seriously..i live in NY, and if i give you 100% full service, and all you do is double the tax to leave me a tip, thats not even 15%...you leave 15% if the server sucked.....and i am a bullshit artist, i bullshit people, but thats only because they bullshit me...people ask me about myself,and i tell them about my life. they asked me. but everyone is different....some people you take there order,give them there food,give check,and they leave you 25% and the only thing you have said is hello/goodnight...but somepeople can bust you balls all night and leave you a shitty tip...yes this business is not for many people,you have to be mentally strong...anyway i could sit here and rant alll day about how fucking people are stupid, but im not.
a) im watchin the cameras from the office to make sure no-one walks in and i gotta do some paper work..b)many people will read this and go oh well....like i said earlyer if you dont have the money to tip,do not, i will say it again,DO NOT GO OUT...i have to pay for bills like you do, i live a life like you do..but then again like a waiter, im here to wait/serve all your needs...
and trust me, if you tip well, you will get something in return...

[TransAm]

Idin, it sounds to me like your family own this restaurant and this topic is close to your heart. I think that a tip of 25% minimum, which is what you seem to be asking for is going to be a lot, perhaps too much for many people. Now would you rather your quantity of customers fell by 50% because all the people you have told not to go out if they cant afford to tip 25% didn't go out at all?

Assuming this is a family business:

If you are finding in hard to keep your business in the black then maybe you ought to renegotiate your supplier prices or raise your menu prices a little?

While I appreciate some of your income will come from tips you shouldn't depend on it. It's akin to the factory worker who depends on 15% overtime hours each week - when the factory work declines some of these people find themselves financially out of their depth as they have become dependent on that overtime...

Anyway, what is this restaurant called and where is it in NY? I mean I would have to go out of my way to avoid it now as I wouldnt want to offend you :wink:

[topgeartom]

Idin, obviously this is a subject you are rather fond of the subject you are defending, but to be honest, IMHO you are talking shit. If i go to a restaraunt, and get a good service, good food etc, then i will tip - but on my terms, according to how nice the meal was, so your saying 15% minimum - if your eating out with the family that could easily become £20. £20 for one tip is daft - what have they done as a waiter anyway? brought the food, smiled, takent he food away again. On the other hand, if the food was crap, then no way in hell would i consider tippping, if the food was shit, the waiter was grumpy, and thrown at me, why should they be given money over the top of their standard wage? It defys logic.

If you went to a garage to fic your car, would you tip the mechanic for doing a good job, or even slip him a tenner if he put the wheel on the wrong way round, knicked your dust caps and charged you £500? I think not. On a plane - an air hostess works their arse off, and always has a smile at the end of it, but you dont tip them do you? So what makes waiters so fucking special? Why does someone who picks up a plate and drinks from one place and then moves them to another deserve so much credit, for doing it well, or even if they did it shit??? Answer me that.

[Anonymous]

ahhhh fuck it everybody just get a takeway

[callen]

I usually tip 15% if the service is good, but it depends on the siz eof the bill. I do not tip for alcohol bought at dinner, since there is no prep work for it, just for the food. At a club/pub/bar i usually round to the dollar, which on a beer for 3.25 or 3.50 works out to nearly 15% neways. IF service is not the best then I will tip 10% and downwards depending on how bad it was, I have rarely not provided ANY tip. In Quebec, it is 100% customary to tip, if you dont u almost wont get what you ordered in a bar or whatever> I think alot of bar maids are spoiled I mean I dont know how many times I have stood beside some fuckin dumb ass gino homo tippin the girl at the bar a dollar or more for a drink that costs 3-4 bucks tops. Who do I look like, Bernie Ecelstone!?!?!?!?!? 8)

[topgeartom]

LMAO AL!

[No.1]

Idin, obviously this is a subject you are rather fond of the subject you are defending, but to be honest, IMHO you are talking shit. If i go to a restaraunt, and get a good service, good food etc, then i will tip - but on my terms, according to how nice the meal was, so your saying 15% minimum - if your eating out with the family that could easily become £20. £20 for one tip is daft - what have they done as a waiter anyway? brought the food, smiled, takent he food away again. On the other hand, if the food was crap, then no way in hell would i consider tippping, if the food was shit, the waiter was grumpy, and thrown at me, why should they be given money over the top of their standard wage? It defys logic.


I agree with you here, Tom. Except in some restaurants, where a starter costs £25 and a main-course £100, the bill quickly becomes around £300-400 (inc. drinks) for a meal for two. I have never dined this expensively (most extravagant for me is a Variety Meal down at KFC :P ), but my parents, and friends parents have, and the tip has been around £50 on many occasions.
Where a waiter is really "at your service" for four hours.... entirely for you, a £50 tip is not unreasonable. :|

However, when in a pub/normal restaurant, a 10% tip is fine. :wink:
But i hate this business of a "minimum 10%" and if you do not leave that big a tip, the waiter turns his nose up at you... even though he dropped your fucking meal on the floor before he reached the table, delaying you for 30mins :roll:

Another thing that pisses me off, is that when a meal reaches a total of say £101.... you put £120 on the tray, and they take it away. Then never bring your bloody change :roll: It's got to be a fucking special meal to get a 20% tip :x

[topgeartom]

that reslly bloody annoys me, when they take a tip for granted, it should always be at the discretion of the customer how much they leave, or indeed, if they leave any money at all. Taking the money and not giving change and expecting that the persion meant it as a tip, is akin to stealing.

[No.1]

that reslly bloody annoys me, when they take a tip for granted, it should always be at the discretion of the customer how much they leave, or indeed, if they leave any money at all. Taking the money and not giving change and expecting that the persion meant it as a tip, is akin to stealing.

It's assuming... and we all know that makes an Ass of U and Me :x

However, the need to be polite in public dictates not causing a fuss, and not asking for your money back. :roll: No matter what you say, nobody wants to look a cheap-skate.... but then, nobody wants to look a push over, either :|

[topgeartom]

such is the way with the world!

Right enough with this philospophical shit, lets get more arguments going! :P

[ldin]

ok,no not a family business...im just talking where i work, i make alot of money..thats cause i do more then what im supposed to, at the end of the night i give busboys 25% of what i make, 10% to the runner, and 5% to the bartender,then dessert guy,and so on(so pretty mcuh 50% of what i make goes to other people)...what im bitching about is the fact that people do not know how to tip,it seems most of you do which im so happy about!..and the restaurant i work at, is a very busy place, its family style..and every customer i come across,ask for my name so when they come back they can ask for me again. when people come out to eat. i give them 100% service, and i even go out of my way for certain things!! i love my job, and i do more then what im supposed to...when theres a private party of 50-80 people,i work it alone..bill comes out to about 5k,and we put suggested tip. i get more then that,because for one guy to take down all those people is pretty hard...im not to happy that im a waiter, and even though i could live of my parents, i really dont like that..i was raised to work hard for everything, and so i do...i pay for all my shit and i dont complain...but what i do complain about is when people do not know how to tip, many people i have come across say that 15% was back then, leave no less then 20%...when i go out with friends, they think im crazy the way the tip, for everything, i get a coffee/brunch everymorning, lets say 5bucks is the total, i leave 3dollars on top of that...i dont have money comming out of my ass. but sometimes people live off what you tip them..anyway im shitfaced and i dont even know of any of this makes sense...but TransAm2001 its in westchester area, i would be more then glad to serve you....as a matter of fact come by one day drinks are on me :)

btw guys its Ldin,..i think i saw couple ppl say Idin...:)

edit:when i get my car serviced, i give the guy 20bucks

[callen]

say that 15% was back then, leave no less then 20%...when i go out with friends, they think im crazy the way the tip, for everything, i get a coffee/brunch everymorning, lets say 5bucks is the total, i leave 3dollars on top of that...i dont have money comming out of my ass. but sometimes people live off what you tip them..anyway im shitfaced and i dont even know of any of this makes sense...but TransAm2001 its in westchester area, i would be more then glad to serve you....as a matter of fact come by one day drinks are on me :)

btw guys its Ldin,..i think i saw couple ppl say Idin...:)

edit:when i get my car serviced, i give the guy 20bucks

No problem tipping hard, specially if you are in the service industry. If I get someone serving me who i feel has gone above and beyond, then I will tip hard for sure, but not for every little thing. I know its nice to get a little extra for someone making 7 an hour, but I know waitresses who even after a so called 'bad' nite they still make 100 bucks in 10 hours. SInce in Canada often they make a little more than 5 an hour, thats still 15 bucks an hour! Who the fuck can complain about 15 an hour when you dont even need to have graduated from high school!?!

[ldin]

heh,i make 3.85 an hour..beat that! and my head hurts

[TransAm]

Ldin, thanks for the offer. What you said reminded me of what happened to me about 6 months ago in an Italian here in Ft Worth. I wanted a cigarette and had forgot mine so I say to the waiter, do you sell cigs here? No, he says, but wait a minute. He came back with 2 cigs (which I believe were his own) and just gave them to me and left me a book of matches too. I tipped well that night, so for the cost of two cigs he probably got enough extra in his tip to buy a new pack or two.

I never eat anywhere where it costs more than $25-30 per person - I can't justify it to myself. I eat out more often at burger/buffet places than I do sit-down-and-be-waited-on places.

What you have to bear in mind ldin is that a lot of people posting on this thread are in the UK and probably working similar jobs, our minimum wage for an under-21 year old is about 3.50-4.50GBP an hour (correct me if I am wrong lads), and maybe 5GBP an hour if you are over 21. Tipping is not customary, we pay four times as much for gas as you, and twice as much for everything else liek PS2, jeans Big Mac meals etc, so you can understand that our money doesnt go as far. As I said before, I made it through Uni at 3GBP an hour, bar work, hardly ever got tips (but there are 'other' advantages to bar work if you're single lol) as it is just not customary in the UK, so when we hear people making 20-25 an hour ON TOP of their minimum wage it kind of hits a nerve a bit. 8)

[topgeartom]

Ldin, thanks for the offer. What you said reminded me of what happened to me about 6 months ago in an Italian here in Ft Worth. I wanted a cigarette and had forgot mine so I say to the waiter, do you sell cigs here? No, he says, but wait a minute. He came back with 2 cigs (which I believe were his own) and just gave them to me and left me a book of matches too. I tipped well that night, so for the cost of two cigs he probably got enough extra in his tip to buy a new pack or two.

I never eat anywhere where it costs more than $25-30 per person - I can't justify it to myself. I eat out more often at burger/buffet places than I do sit-down-and-be-waited-on places.

What you have to bear in mind ldin is that a lot of people posting on this thread are in the UK and probably working similar jobs, our minimum wage for an under-21 year old is about 3.50-4.50GBP an hour (correct me if I am wrong lads), and maybe 5GBP an hour if you are over 21. Tipping is not customary, we pay four times as much for gas as you, and twice as much for everything else liek PS2, jeans Big Mac meals etc, so you can understand that our money doesnt go as far. As I said before, I made it through Uni at 3GBP an hour, bar work, hardly ever got tips (but there are 'other' advantages to bar work if you're single lol) as it is just not customary in the UK, so when we hear people making 20-25 an hour ON TOP of their minimum wage it kind of hits a nerve a bit. 8)

very well said sir.

[ldin]

omg, i hate windows..just wrote a big freakin post,and it froze on me!...
anyway dident mean to sound like an asshole..just some people simply do not know how to tip..but whatever..i dont like to bitch because noone really listens...unless your a shrink and get paid for it :o...
anyway.last nite guy orders 15drinks at the bar,bartender makes them in minutes.guy leaves one dollar,he was drinking jack and coke,next round he got coke with a splash of jack..hehe :)..and to be honest with you, i hate expensive places, i dont mind the pay..which sucks later on when you dig in your pocket and wonder where the money went..but i hate the atmoshphere...waiters look like nazi's and dont even crack a smile. i prefer to have a waiter that can have a conversation with you,and its mostly the places that arent really 5star...anyway im still holdin you up for those drinks if your ever in NY :)...

[antonioledesma]

that reslly bloody annoys me, when they take a tip for granted

that's fuckin annoying... :?
3 weeks ago I went to a popular restaurant with my gf, ordered few and unexpensive things, the check was for... 190usd (5 usd for a fuck'o cocktail!!! rats!)
ok, the check wasn't big, but the waiter gave us the check, and written down on the check we saw: 22usd
WTF!?! the waiter just gave his prize. I hate when that happens, when a waiter thinks he has the right to earn a fixed ammount. He did a poor service

of course he thinks he must write down the tip because in that restaurant some big-wigs of that city, go and the checks easily go over 500usd, and a tip of 60-100 usd

[ldin]

in that case,you shouldve said something to the manager...just some price listings at my job
prem liq drink: 6.25
house wine: 5.25
topshelf wine glass: 8.99
greygoose: 7.50
martini: 10.25
soda: 2.00
pitch soda: 10.00
e.t.c..
pretty high price's in my opinion, and ive mentiond it a couple times to the manager...anyway..party time

[TransAm]

how much for a beer there ldin?

[ldin]

4.50 reg, 5.00 prem=heineken,amstel,uhh italian beer,corona...e.t.c

[TransAm]

Thats not so bad