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ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 01:15 AM
I think the pollution is rotting their brains :shock: this is the second one i've seen for under 10!!

http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/63408403.html

Max Power
03-12-2005, 01:26 AM
20000 JW members, we could get 2

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 01:29 AM
hell, even split between the posting community, that's like 50 bucks each :D

dingo
03-12-2005, 01:42 AM
if its too good to be true it usually is......as if an E46 M3 would go for that little money unless there was something seriously wrong with it :?

nthfinity
03-12-2005, 01:43 AM
hell yea!
i could easily swing a loan for 9500!!!
im tempted to contact his email see if its for real

Chaos in 1983!
03-12-2005, 01:44 AM
That dude must be on crack or something, or ther is probably something REALLY wrong with that car.

pimrusis
03-12-2005, 02:10 AM
The car may still be under warrenty, unless it has a salvage title or something,.

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 02:12 AM
all i would need is the last 7 of the VIN and i could try looking up the vehicle's service history in BMW's Dealer Communication System. anything done under warranty should be registered under that. and if one of you were to get it, and there was something wrong with the engine, i MIGHT be able to get it warrantied and replace it at no cost :wink: Bring it on 8)


The car may still be under warrenty, unless it has a salvage title or something,.


even still it should be more than 9500. Even the E30 M3 is still going for more than 9500

black_magician
03-12-2005, 02:22 AM
the link says its been taken down :cry: . but an e46 for under 10k? ... STOLEN CAR !! :wink:

Fleischmann
03-12-2005, 02:53 AM
the link says its been taken down :cry: . but an e46 for under 10k? ... STOLEN CAR !! :wink:

Exactly. No asshole would sell a legally purchased M3 for under 10 grand.

I remember seeing a man selling 'his' BMW 330 for a ridiculously price. I had to look at the registration plate to notice what is going on. The car was from a city called Pruszkow, home to the biggest mafia here.

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 02:55 AM
the link says its been taken down :cry: . but an e46 for under 10k? ... STOLEN CAR !! :wink:

i got that on the other one i sw for 9900.

And no, there is no way to steal that car without a flat bed or holding the owner at gunpoint.

The tumbler is a two peice unit that will not engage the mechanical portion of the ignition switch unless the correct key is inserted. So punching the igniton is useless as is trying to break it with a screw driver.

Hotwiring won't work because the EWS 3.3 module won't release the injection and ignition control unless it sees the code from the key which is sent by AM radio signal to the Antenna ring around the ignition tumbler.

The code is sent from the key through the antenna ring to the EWS module. The EWS then compares the sent code to the one it has set as the correct random code it has set for the current start sequence. If the codes match, it then sends the code to the DME and upon DME confirmation, the injection and ignition are released.

The next code on the list (of 200) is selected by the EWS module and set in the DME and key transponder for the next startup sequence.

It doesn't do any good to swap the EWS module with a rigged one because the two units are "married" by the Rolling Code table. No two units have the same sequences :wink:

Anonymous
03-12-2005, 03:16 AM
ZfrkS62 - I've been seen a lot of those postings lately. Most of the time they are from out of state (Florida or Texas). I live in the Bay Area, and currently searching for a M. Too bad, that scammers now has even came to the point to trying to rip someone off on Craigslist.

It used a great site for both buyer and sellers.

Like the old saying goes "If it is too good to be true, it probably is."

T-Bird
03-12-2005, 03:19 AM
the link says its been taken down :cry: . but an e46 for under 10k? ... STOLEN CAR !! :wink:

i got that on the other one i sw for 9900.

And no, there is no way to steal that car without a flat bed or holding the owner at gunpoint.

The tumbler is a two peice unit that will not engage the mechanical portion of the ignition switch unless the correct key is inserted. So punching the igniton is useless as is trying to break it with a screw driver.

Hotwiring won't work because the EWS 3.3 module won't release the injection and ignition control unless it sees the code from the key which is sent by AM radio signal to the Antenna ring around the ignition tumbler.

The code is sent from the key through the antenna ring to the EWS module. The EWS then compares the sent code to the one it has set as the correct random code it has set for the current start sequence. If the codes match, it then sends the code to the DME and upon DME confirmation, the injection and ignition are released.

The next code on the list (of 200) is selected by the EWS module and set in the DME and key transponder for the next startup sequence.

It doesn't do any good to swap the EWS module with a rigged one because the two units are "married" by the Rolling Code table. No two units have the same sequences :wink:

would using a BMW factory scan tool do the trick?
It works with the Audi one...

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 03:44 AM
ZfrkS62 - I've been seen a lot of those postings lately. Most of the time they are from out of state (Florida or Texas). I live in the Bay Area, and currently searching for a M. Too bad, that scammers now has even came to the point to trying to rip someone off on Craigslist.

It used a great site for both buyer and sellers.

Like the old saying goes "If it is too good to be true, it probably is."


Yeah, i'm starting to wonder. My g/f (we're kinda on a break but nothing has changed really) whom you and i have discussed over IM, has been sending me these. A little while ago she sent me an E36 M3 sedan suposedly in the bay area, for 3,000 bucks. I emailed the guy and got a response from TWO people :shock: one was a short reply saying the title was clean, and the other was a long ass email from a guy saying he was on business in ROME ( :shocked!: ) and wanted a 1,000 dollar deposit before driving the car to me when he returned in a month :? i, in no uncertain terms, told him where he could stick the car :P too bad too. I ran the VIN from it (and the others i've found) and they checked out :(


would using a BMW factory scan tool do the trick?
It works with the Audi one...


No. the only people i think that are able to see the codes are the people who work the Tech. Hotline in New Jersey. If they can, the car has to be hooked up to the DISPlus or GT1 diagnostic computers. there really is no "scantool" for BMW. If the EWS module takes a shit, you have to reprogram the DME so that you can set the new table of codes in the processor so that alignment of the two control units can be carried out and the new code stored in the key.

Both modules calculate the codes and if they don't match, the DME will cycle forward to the next code to find a match. If that doesn't happen, the car goes nowhere :wink:

T-Bird
03-12-2005, 03:54 AM
I didn't really mean scan tool like an OBDII tool but like the Modis or Genesis style tools that are like a full on computer (genesis runs on Windows variant) the Audi one works like you said so that you can reprogram the ignition module etc... to work with the key. We had to do it at school since some dumb fuck stole the damn key (he got kicked out).

Anonymous
03-12-2005, 03:58 AM
^ Oh yeah, it always include sending him something via Western Union. Whether it is $500 or $1000, before he or she drives the car to you.

Bull shit.

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 04:08 AM
We had to do it at school since some dumb fuck stole the damn key (he got kicked out).


some people :roll:

Ours can do nearly anything you want it to. Diagnosis, Coding/Programming and Measuring System 8) Pretty trick shit 8)

T-Bird
03-12-2005, 04:12 AM
We had to do it at school since some dumb fuck stole the damn key (he got kicked out).


some people :roll:

Ours can do nearly anything you want it to. Diagnosis, Coding/Programming and Measuring System 8) Pretty trick shit 8)

Do you know the name of it?
We might have that one we have like 10 different ones 15 in total.

EDIT: I just realized you said the DISPlus or GT1 or am I wrong... :oops:

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 04:20 AM
i don't know what operating system they use. I'm pretty sure it's an inhouse system. Seimens makes the hardware and stuff.

the big unit we use is the DISPlus, and the smaller one is the GT1. i don't know if there is a BMW training facility in Illinois..there might be now though.

T-Bird
03-12-2005, 04:25 AM
they have a training program at UTI here now. We are suported by a few different manufacturers but they bought alot of the tools used in the field, hell we have one that works on Ferrari's.

I would easily guess you could buy a new M3 with the money spent on our "scan" tools, the Genesis units we have cost more than the one you started the topic about.

ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 04:31 AM
yeah, i think the DIS alone is 20,000 and the GT1 is 15. the wireless diagnostic heads aren't cheap either.

we have a programming station for the 5's and 7's called the SSS and that uses another type of head that splits programming between the OBDII connector and the MOST bus fiberoptic ring. Coming up pretty soo, all the cars are going to be programmed with that.

T-Bird
03-12-2005, 04:43 AM
yeah, i think the DIS alone is 20,000 and the GT1 is 15. the wireless diagnostic heads aren't cheap either.

we have a programming station for the 5's and 7's called the SSS and that uses another type of head that splits programming between the OBDII connector and the MOST bus fiberoptic ring. Coming up pretty soo, all the cars are going to be programmed with that.

Sounds like overkill to me.

ferrarif1fan89
03-12-2005, 02:15 PM
:P What, is it just a steering wheel and a little bmw sticker you put on your forehead for when you run around the yard making engine sounds?

Anonymous
03-13-2005, 11:15 PM
Here's another one. . .

http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/63633224.html

ZfrkS62
03-13-2005, 11:29 PM
that didn't last long did it? 13 minutes from the time it was posted to the time it shows as being removed :lol:

ZfrkS62
03-13-2005, 11:43 PM
yeah, i think the DIS alone is 20,000 and the GT1 is 15. the wireless diagnostic heads aren't cheap either.

we have a programming station for the 5's and 7's called the SSS and that uses another type of head that splits programming between the OBDII connector and the MOST bus fiberoptic ring. Coming up pretty soo, all the cars are going to be programmed with that.

Sounds like overkill to me.

It seems like it, but once you start using them, you realize just how nice it is. the SSS takes the programing load off the DIS/GT1 and as long as you have a free head, you can program up to 5 cars. Which is nice because i've had a 7 take 9 hours to program :? It would be nice if we had enough heads specificaly for the SSS and just have the other two for the DIS and GT1 so we can program all the cars at once and still be able to diagnose anything else that comes in.

Anonymous
03-14-2005, 10:36 PM
From CL. . . a friend who emailed one of those cars.


This guy is a fool and/or stupid scamer, he is trying to sell me a 2003
BMW M3 for $8000, and the deal suppose to go as follows:


Hello,
First of all I must inform you that currently I'm in Rome, Italy and the
car is in Littleton, Colorado. The car has a clear title witch you will
receive it with the car. It can be registerd into your name,so stay cool
about this.It has 18000 miles.

I have to tell you that I have other serious offers that I have to
consider and I will make a decision regarding this sale function of time
of payment and price.

The price I hope to obtain is $8000 (this price is includes shipping to
your location because I'll come home and drive to your location) and if
you accept the price we can start the transaction. I need an $1000
deposit made before I'll come back home. The deposit payment must be
done using a money order service.

I prefer money order because works more fast than any other way of
payment and I made good bussineses in this way in the past.
The inspection period is 3-5 days tops.

I'm a fair trader a serious seller that closed many good deals here.
During this period l learned that the best deals are closed when the
risk involved is minimum and the time to close a deal is as fast as it
can, because other methods are unavailable here or takes too much time
till I cash the money payment. You will arrange the deposit payment
through western union. All you have to do is go with cash to a Western
Union office and complete a "To Send Money" form for $1000. As
receiver's address you must use my address:

Address: Via Della Cammilluccia 651
Zip code: 00135
City: Rome
Country: Italy

As you can see i didn't mention anything about the receiver's name and
you will see why. Because we didn't have any deals till now we must
build a relationship between us and as now it is hard to be built just
on trust we must work with something safe. I suggest to deposit the
money to a name other than mine as a receiver: your father's name, your
best friend's name or any name you can think of; this way you can be
sure that noone will not pick up the money untill we'll meet Right after
you make the transfer, you must send me the details of the transfer to
validate it:
- exact MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number, it is a 10 digits number,
that will help me to track the money online)
- exact sender name and address
(I need those informations so I can check if the transfer was made and I
can verify that on Western Union's web-page anytime I want to on
www.westernunion.com).
-exact receiver's name

After I will have the confirmation of the deposit payment ($1000), I
will come back to US in three days tops to meet you. After we'll meet,
you will have 5 days tops for inspection. If there is something wrong
with it, you can retrieve your money from Western Union. If you decide
to keep it, you must change the receiver name into my name Lee Rogers,
so I can be able to cash the money.

No need to mention about , the deposit is full refundable, I mean if
you'll reject the car you'll not change the receivers name and I can't
pick up the money.

If the car has hidden defects, or it is not as advertised, I will even
pay for the western union fee, but I doubt because the car is in perfect
condition.

Why this procedure? Because :
1. Western Union is a global leader in money transfer ,has agencies
worldwide and it is very flexible.
2. The money will be deposited at Western Union on the name you choose
and can NOT be retrieved (except by you) until you change the receiver
name into my name so it works just like a third party service .
3. This way I can have the guarantee that you have the money and that
you are ready to buy .
4.I will actually leave you the car for inspection first because the
money will be picked up after you inspect it. After you'll make sure
that the car is in a good working condition as I've described it in the
add I will wait for your permission to pick the money and get paid.
5. I will support the travelling and you will support the transfer
fees (You will have to pay some fees there at Western Union : 6% - 8%
from the total amount - this depends on your exact location also) - I
think this way is fair.

Very important!

Because we are dealing with a big amount here and we both
want to lower our additional fees or to exclude them I think it is
better not to inform western union that you will change the receiver's
name in a few days because it is possible that they ask you to pay the
fees twice. Also when you will go to the western union office to wire
the money (sometimes they ask you why are you doing that) don't tell them that is for something you have bought because I will have to pay a very expensive tax for making comerce when I pick up the money. We can avoid paying this money.

If they ask you that you can tell them that the money are for a friend
or family member. This we avoid spending some useless money and the truth I'm not willing to waste my money. I hope you will agree this procedure and if so, contact me back with your exact address, complete name and phone number.

All my best !
Lee.

[email protected]

ZfrkS62
03-14-2005, 10:46 PM
THIS IS THE EXACT SAME RESPONSE I GOT ABOUT THE 4 DOOR E36 M3 FOR $3,000 :!: :!: :!:

*edit*

I just sent this dickhead the following email:

You stupid ass mother fucker! I knew your M3 deal was too good to be true. you just sent my friends the EXACT same response about the two 03 E46 M3s that you did to me regarding the 4 door E36 M3. I hope you know the FBI is on to you dickhead. They have been alerted to your tactics and WILL bring you in. If you think you're safe abroad, think again. you'll be on the next plane back here before you can post another fake car.

We are all going to testify at your trial asshole so you may as well turn yourself in. Maybe you won't get stuck with a 275 lb, affection starved inmate.


:wink: Lets have some fun with him and see where this goes :D