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lamboman3140
03-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Unfoutunaly the SLR Mclaren is dead...the production run of the SLR is over. The SLR was suppose to run for 7 years and to produce 3500 models. God-damn Mclaren they can't work simple things out like the new performance figures and designs for the new models and the replacement for the SLR Mclaren and the P8 And P9
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lamboman3140
03-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Also Check out the Brabus SLR McLaren
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2005@$Brabus@$SLR%20McLarenx.html
antonioledesma
03-09-2005, 08:43 PM
Unfoutunaly the SLR Mclaren is dead...the production run of the SLR is over. The SLR was suppose to run for 7 years and to produce 3500 models. God-damn Mclaren they can't work simple things out like the new performance figures and designs for the new models and the replacement for the SLR Mclaren and the P8 And P9
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and in what do you base that thing?
your source... please? :roll:
SilviaEvo
03-09-2005, 08:51 PM
havnt heard about this i need a source to back it up
ikon2003
03-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Plllleeeease, give sources when news like this comes around. A degree of credibility definitely goes a long way - much further than an uncited statement.
lamboman3140
03-09-2005, 09:00 PM
March Issue of Automobile Magizen page 14 "Mercedes Dumps Mclaren"
chest3r
03-09-2005, 09:16 PM
How many SLR's were produced until now ????
I think that's very strange :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
antonioledesma
03-09-2005, 09:17 PM
March Issue of Automobile Magizen page 14 "Mercedes Dumps Mclaren"
have a scanner? can you upload those pages?
or anyone else has it?
SilviaEvo
03-09-2005, 09:20 PM
^^http://img37.exs.cx/img37/81/486000mclaren7xc.th.jpg (http://img37.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img37&image=486000mclaren7xc.jpg)
styla21
03-09-2005, 09:29 PM
Oh, interesting. :shock: However, i'm not sure if this means the end of production for the current model SLR.. This should be continued, however future projects will be scrapped. Maybe we will see once more the BMW-Mclaren fling, and the newborn a thumping supercar? :P
antonioledesma
03-09-2005, 09:31 PM
the article says nothing on mb and mclaren dumping the slr...
chest3r
03-09-2005, 09:34 PM
This doesn't mean the end of production of the actual SLR. It means they're not gonna make any other car. Unfortunetly !!! :( :( :( :(
lamboman3140
03-09-2005, 09:48 PM
True , mabye they make some more SLR's like one's ppl already payed for but not many , as i interpretated it , it sounded like they stoped production of the SLR in general if u as me, i don't think there going to make the SLR for 6 more years and not make any other models under the Mclaren badge. im' pretty sure they only made around 300-400 at most. the run was for 7 years and 500 a year so 3500 , and they've only been making then for less for one year.
HeilSvenska
03-09-2005, 09:56 PM
^ for shame...
Everyone knows that the Woking facility can't handle such production in a short time...it's very logical
lamboman3140
03-09-2005, 10:17 PM
^ for shame...
Everyone knows that the Woking facility can't handle such production in a short time...it's very logicaluhh not entierly, if u'v seen pics of the production line there like 20 of them in some of the pics
"Around 140 highly qualified staff manufacture up to 500 units of the Gran Turismo at the McLaren Technology Centre, McLaren's HQ, each year. During the vehicle's seven-year lifespan, the plant is intended to produce 3,500 cars. In total, the McLaren Technology Centre measures approximately 22,500 square metres, 4000 of which are utilised for SLR production."
http://www.cardesignonline.com/production/case-studies/mercedes-mclaren-slr.php
HeilSvenska
03-10-2005, 12:07 AM
3500 cars, but not at once. To sell 3500 SLR a year, McLaren would have to build an average of 9-10 cars a day non-stop all day, every day. Average of 1 car a day (which is what it is) is much more realistic. Of course, no (hand built) car is really built like that. And 140 staff members probably have specialities so not all of them could probably work at the same time also.
ikon2003
03-10-2005, 12:59 AM
^Thanks for citing.
What a shame for all this squabbling to occur - And their new multimillion dollar factory that looks like a piece of art - wasted. It would be nice if they could work that kinda stuff out
(Tho if this means McLaren can team up w/ BMW again, then i might reconsider... :wink: )
HeilSvenska
03-10-2005, 01:50 AM
I know. I was just trying to prove a point, or at least persuade people to think that i have the right idea.
numerouno
03-10-2005, 04:06 AM
True , ...
they have not terminated production of the SLR. They will still produce just as many SLRs as they have been already, and for 7 years....if that is the plan.
the ONLY thing they have terminated is development of NEW CARS as join projects.
abs correct, but anyway it's a pity! one supercar less=less competition, hence less progress in supercar performance
oantob
03-10-2005, 10:00 AM
maybe because McLaren spending to much money to the F1? so they should stop other projects...
mindgam3
03-10-2005, 10:35 AM
Definately for the best, perhaps we can now see the full potential of what mclaren are capable of instead of mercedes sticking their noses in stuff they dont have a clue about
PeleProdigyGTO
03-10-2005, 10:58 AM
Prob gonna look silly here... but when did mercedes and BMW team up before? What came out of it and when did this happen?
but when did mercedes and BMW team up before? What came out of it and when did this happen?
In WWII to make weapons for Hitler... and we all know they lost the war... ;)
mindgam3
03-10-2005, 11:34 AM
^Thanks for citing.
What a shame for all this squabbling to occur - And their new multimillion dollar factory that looks like a piece of art - wasted. It would be nice if they could work that kinda stuff out
Hardly a waste, the SLR is only a small portion of McLarens business
sentra_dude
03-10-2005, 11:57 AM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Hopefully McLaren can team up with another engine provider who is not so controlling in the philosophy of the car...
oantob
03-10-2005, 12:11 PM
why don't we ask this guy?
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/4530/mclaren0dt.jpg
stradale
03-10-2005, 01:39 PM
I don't think I'll lose any sleep over this. On the contrary...
I hope this doesn't mean McLaren won't be building any road cars in the future any more. It would be great if they would design a new sportscar without MB ruining everything. Preferably with a decent BMW powerplant and a manual gearbox.
lamboman3140
03-10-2005, 09:36 PM
I know. I was just trying to prove a point, or at least persuade people to think that i have the right idea.well you don't have the right idea, they aren't making 3500 in one year there making that many in 7 years, can't you read?!
lamboman3140
03-10-2005, 09:52 PM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed. theres only one with a Manual trannsmisson all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
plus i like Mercedes Much Better than BMW, GOD i can't stand them except the M3.
ZfrkS62
03-10-2005, 10:14 PM
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car
So THAT'S why they can't do anything right in F1 :P :D
all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
Which is still stomped by BMW's SMG gearbox :P I've got news for you though. That "semi"-automatic box, is still an automatic :wink: clicking the buttons on the back of the wheel only allows it to engage the next gear's series of clutch packs :P
Sir_GT
03-10-2005, 10:29 PM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed. theres only one with a Manual trannsmisson all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
plus i like Mercedes Much Better than BMW, GOD i can't stand them except the M3.
Errrm... stick around. I think you'll find out that there are about, what, 5 Mercedes fans in this forum? lol. They're a shit company, producing shit cars, and are only surviving on the strength of their brand, but nothing else.
Audi builds better interiors than Mercedes.
BMW builds better performance cars than Mercedes.
BOTH Audi and BMW build better luxury cars than Mercedes.
Hell, the Phaeton is a better car than the S-class... except that it carried the wrong badge (had it been Four rings, that car would've been a totally different story).
I mean, why buy a merc? S-class? The A8 is better built, the 7-series has more legroom, and both the A8 and the 7 drive better.
Why buy an E-class? The A6 is better built, the 5-series has more legroom, and both the A6 and the 5-series drive better.
Why buy a C-class? The A4 is better built, the new 3-series is flawless, and both the A4 and the 3 drive far better.
...and so on, and so forth. :)
mindgam3
03-11-2005, 06:23 AM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed. theres only one with a Manual trannsmisson all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
plus i like Mercedes Much Better than BMW, GOD i can't stand them except the M3.
I.E the SLR was a compromise.... niether a hardcore supercar or a fast luxury car.
McLaren do not compromise, hence why this break up can only be good for the company.
If McLaren do build a new car, I think BMW would be the best supplier for the engine as they say the same car philosophy
yg60m
03-11-2005, 06:30 AM
That's would be surprising to stop the production while it's very new and sold well ... They won't MAYBE sold it for 7 years but certainly more than 1 year :|
Ghostbat
03-11-2005, 07:05 AM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed. theres only one with a Manual trannsmisson all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
plus i like Mercedes Much Better than BMW, GOD i can't stand them except the M3.
Errrm... stick around. I think you'll find out that there are about, what, 5 Mercedes fans in this forum? lol. They're a shit company, producing shit cars, and are only surviving on the strength of their brand, but nothing else.
Audi builds better interiors than Mercedes.
BMW builds better performance cars than Mercedes.
BOTH Audi and BMW build better luxury cars than Mercedes.
Hell, the Phaeton is a better car than the S-class... except that it carried the wrong badge (had it been Four rings, that car would've been a totally different story).
I mean, why buy a merc? S-class? The A8 is better built, the 7-series has more legroom, and both the A8 and the 7 drive better.
Why buy an E-class? The A6 is better built, the 5-series has more legroom, and both the A6 and the 5-series drive better.
Why buy a C-class? The A4 is better built, the new 3-series is flawless, and both the A4 and the 3 drive far better.
...and so on, and so forth. :)
Girlfriend left you for a Mercedesowner or what :?: :wink:
Sir_GT
03-11-2005, 08:31 AM
Girlfriend left you for a Mercedesowner or what :?: :wink:
Lol. Nice one, but FYI, My wife and I like to look past "the badge" and prefer investing in something that is actually worth the asking price.
Hence, we usually only discuss wether it be a BMW or an Audi. ;)
callen
03-11-2005, 10:55 AM
Mercedes and Mclaren not producing any further cars after the SLR is old news! But I am sure they are not going to scrap the SLR project after less than a year, that would be very very bad for business and the investment made in the car. Even tho AMG is getting use of the engine in some newer models, the millions spent on development and other SLR specific parts would go to waste. This car is selling well, and believe it or not Mercedes is a business :wink: They like to make millions, not lose it.
edit:btw, I agree with merc being outclassed by its competition. The only one I would consider buying is the G55 AMG, baby that truck is mean! :P
loliea
03-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Does anyone know anything about the next baby McLaren?
sentra_dude
03-11-2005, 05:59 PM
It's about time...this partnership was destined to fall apart from the beginning. MB and McLaren have completely opposed views of building cars, Mercedes has no clue how to build sportscars...I mean, they think its a good idea to put a torque converter on a supercar. :roll:
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed. theres only one with a Manual trannsmisson all the others are semi automatics u kinda need a torque converter for that to work, + you still have control over the gears there's 3 modes, Automatic mode (for every day use), comfort mode (starts car in 2nd gear , faster changes than automatic mode) and Manual mode thus total control of the gear box via shift buttons on back of steering wheel and shifter.
plus i like Mercedes Much Better than BMW, GOD i can't stand them except the M3.
mindgam3 already did a good job responding to your post, but I'll add a little bit more.
No shit you need an automatic do have an automatic mode...but only the geniuses at MB would think to put an automatic on what is supposed to be a supercar.
Dude MB's are Luxury cars and not ment to be a hardcore drive on the edge car but thats what they tried to do with the SLR but still have all the comforts and admenaties of regular MB's but have mind blowing performance and i think they succeed.
Yes, they aren't meant to be performance cars, hence MB's partnership with a company completely focused on performance and the driver [McLaren] was foolish.
rallyprox
03-11-2005, 07:13 PM
Do you remember the 16 valve 190e's from the late 80's. I would consider them a sports car. However, I would agree that the later models are not so much a sports car anymore, but a luxury car.
lamboman3140
03-11-2005, 07:57 PM
Ya the 190E is deffinaly a sports car, very nice and its even in Gran Turismo 4! the thing rev's SOOOO HIGH!!!!
Toronto
03-12-2005, 02:29 AM
you know what this mean.
the next mclaren will have a clutch pedal :P :D
ZfrkS62
03-12-2005, 03:10 AM
the next mclaren will have a clutch pedal
anoyone know how much longer the McLaren/Mercedes F1 partnership will last? If you ask me i think BMW should drop Williams and repartner with McLaren.
It seems the BMW's engines are being slowed by the Williams chassis, and the McLaren chassis is being slowed by the Mercedes engine. I say let BMW partner with McLaren so they can finally have the speed to take down the Tifosi and let Mercedes/Williams trip up Jordan and Minardi :P hmmm..i think i just found out how to slow down F1 cars :lol:
Anonymous
03-12-2005, 03:35 AM
Yeah, I read the same article in last month's Automobile Mag, basically saying that their partnership is over after the current run of SLRs. They'll continue to make the SLR but no more additional models like originally intended.
Initially they were going to work on three models, with the SLR the top of the line then one mid range and another at the bottom 911 fighter.
ferrarif1fan89
03-12-2005, 11:40 AM
the next mclaren will have a clutch pedal
anoyone know how much longer the McLaren/Mercedes F1 partnership will last? If you ask me i think BMW should drop Williams and repartner with McLaren.
It seems the BMW's engines are being slowed by the Williams chassis, and the McLaren chassis is being slowed by the Mercedes engine. I say let BMW partner with McLaren so they can finally have the speed to take down the Tifosi and let Mercedes/Williams trip up Jordan and Minardi :P hmmm..i think i just found out how to slow down F1 cars :lol:
amen to that brother!
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