Eat your heart out Barca. Chelsea goes through.

[he7lius]

Chelsea 4 Barcelona 2.
Something u don't see everyday.
Chelsea (portuguese armada) played there best game ever and The Mastermind Mourinho showed who's the best in the game.
:D :D :D :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40905000/jpg/_40905055_dd300_getty.jpg

[Ghostbat]

I still think this sucks. This type of defensive football brings the sport back some twenty years. It's almost as bad as Greece winning the european championship. IMO it's always more fun to watch a club like Barcelona play.

[Anonymous]

I still think this sucks. This type of defensive football brings the sport back some twenty years. It's almost as bad as Greece winning the european championship. IMO it's always more fun to watch a club like Barcelona play.

Well i don't know, sometimes they can be boring yes, but other games they can score 3 or 4 like this. I much prefer this to the unprofessional displays i see the likes of real madrid put in, honestly thier defense for as long as i can remember is a shambles, letting down so many stars in midfield and upfront.

For sure this is one of the most intense games i've seen in any competition for a while, had some absolute moments of quality too Ronaldinho has lost nothing IMO :D. Sure they also have some boring low scoring games i admit, but if they played like last night every week i'm sure they'd be knacked :lol:

[T5]

I still think this sucks. This type of defensive football brings the sport back some twenty years. It's almost as bad as Greece winning the european championship. IMO it's always more fun to watch a club like Barcelona play.

Defensive? :shock:

It was an open march, a show of magical football with many chances of goal for both sides.

[RAMAN]

Where was Ronaldinho in the 2nd half?? Brilliant for the first 45, completely gone for the next. :|

Still a great game though, it was good enough that I stopped playing GT4 to watch it, and I'm neither fan of both teams. :shock:

[TopGearNL]

Did you see the goal of Chelsea, the corner, I think it was Frank Lampardthat scored, where they hold the goalie so that he couldn t move, that was a faul for sure, still wonder why Collina didn t see that, anyway I think that that was the reason for Chelsea to win :? , not that they played bad, not at all, but still :!:

[Fleischmann]

It's a shame that the outcome of a match at such a high level was greatly influenced by a mistake by the referee. The 4th goal for Chelsea obviously shouldn't have been counted due to the foul on the football. I hope FIFA introduce some sort of 'electronic referee' where cameras registering footage of the match could show exactly what happens on the field.

It's a real shame because 'I think Barca was the better team in both legs.

[Anonymous]

Did you see the goal of Chelsea, the corner, I think it was Frank Lampardthat scored, where they hold the goalie so that he couldn t move, that was a faul for sure, still wonder why Collina didn t see that, anyway I think that that was the reason for Chelsea to win :? , not that they played bad, not at all, but still :!:

And what about the penalty that got barca back in the game, though the rules are hazy on handball as they stand I don't think that should have been given. In reality these things even themselves out over the course of a season. The truth is referees can't be right all the time as some seem to expect them to be :roll: and in my opinion clever technlogy to help them will only damage the game by breaking up the flow and excitment. The only device i would like to see is the one currently being trialed that shows if the ball crossed the line, as this would take seconds to get a decision, not minutes.

[Fleischmann]

Did you see the goal of Chelsea, the corner, I think it was Frank Lampardthat scored, where they hold the goalie so that he couldn t move, that was a faul for sure, still wonder why Collina didn t see that, anyway I think that that was the reason for Chelsea to win :? , not that they played bad, not at all, but still :!:

And what about the penalty that got barca back in the game, though the rules are hazy on handball as they stand I don't think that should have been given. In reality these things even themselves out over the course of a season. The truth is referees can't be right all the time as some seem to expect them to be :roll: and in my opinion clever technlogy to help them will only damage the game by breaking up the flow and excitment. The only device i would like to see is the one currently being trialed that shows if the ball crossed the line, as this would take seconds to get a decision, not minutes.

The ruels are if your hands aren't by your side or if you aren't blocking your face to avoid getting hurt a penalty should be given.

IMO, bad decisions ruin the sport, we cannot tell who is the true champion.

[jon_s]

It was a fantastic match!

Ronaldinho's goal! OMG!!

IMO, the hand ball should not have been given, but then that is football for you.

Best movement in the game for me was Mateja Kezman's brilliant pass releasing Gudjohnsen! 8)

Did anyone see the scuffles from Barca when the match had ended? WTF was that about!

[mv]

Did anyone see the scuffles from Barca when the match had ended? WTF was that about!

I did...Lots of emotions emerged :o No wonder, this was the big one. I'm sure we're still about to hear the details.

[Anonymous]

Did you see the goal of Chelsea, the corner, I think it was Frank Lampardthat scored, where they hold the goalie so that he couldn t move, that was a faul for sure, still wonder why Collina didn t see that, anyway I think that that was the reason for Chelsea to win :? , not that they played bad, not at all, but still :!:

And what about the penalty that got barca back in the game, though the rules are hazy on handball as they stand I don't think that should have been given. In reality these things even themselves out over the course of a season. The truth is referees can't be right all the time as some seem to expect them to be :roll: and in my opinion clever technlogy to help them will only damage the game by breaking up the flow and excitment. The only device i would like to see is the one currently being trialed that shows if the ball crossed the line, as this would take seconds to get a decision, not minutes.

The ruels are if your hands aren't by your side or if you aren't blocking your face to avoid getting hurt a penalty should be given.

IMO, bad decisions ruin the sport, we cannot tell who is the true champion.

Nope i believe, that while you are right that ptotecting the face being a defence, the handball also has to be deliberate and not "ball to hand". As far as i know this rule is still in place, the tough call is how to determine this. In this case the chelsea player wasn't even looking when the ball struck his arm, which is quite hard to do deliberately in mid air. Like the offside rule which is a farce at the moment this rule also needs looking at to remove some of the doubt,

[antonioledesma]

all hands in the area must be called penalty kick unless the hand/arm is in contact with the body (shite, I can't find another way to explain it)... end of the discussion... IMO

too bad for the barza, the only responsible for that is rafael márquez... damn... why did he had to be injured ??? :| :|

[Fleischmann]

all hands in the area must be called penalty kick unless the hand/arm is in contact with the body (shite, I can't find another way to explain it)... end of the discussion... IMO


Exactly.

[Anonymous]

all hands in the area must be called penalty kick unless the hand/arm is in contact with the body (shite, I can't find another way to explain it)... end of the discussion... IMO



Yep pretty much thats how i think it should be ideally, if you raise your arms in the penalty area you shouldn't complain if you get a handball given. But i just checked and it is definately in the 2004 rules that the handball must be deliberate, which is hard to interpret for referees IMO

**EDIT**


Penalty can be given when........
#player handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)


Did anyone see the scuffles from Barca when the match had ended? WTF was that about!

I did...Lots of emotions emerged :o No wonder, this was the big one. I'm sure we're still about to hear the details.
It was about an apparent racist comment from a steward, and general frustration i beleive. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4324717.stm

[RAMAN]

If the handball is considered unintentional by the ref, he can award a freekick inside the penalty box. At least that's the rule during my time playing the game... :?

Ugh stupid American TV, no games being broadcasted today.... :x

[antonioledesma]

all hands in the area must be called penalty kick unless the hand/arm is in contact with the body (shite, I can't find another way to explain it)... end of the discussion... IMO



Yep pretty much thats how i think it should be ideally, if you raise your arms in the penalty area you shouldn't complain if you get a handball given. But i just checked and it is definately in the 2004 rules that the handball must be deliberate, which is hard to interpret for referees IMO

**EDIT**


Penalty can be given when........
#player handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

I believe that the deliberate handball was made a rule when maradona intentionally kicked the ball, so it went and hitted a defender (???) in his hand, so you have a free penalty kick

another thing, seeing the fifa's retrogade rules and no technological help in the field, you must have another referee. So you have one in each half of the field. How many fouls and red cards, etc have been given because the referee was running from the other side of the field and he "saw something"???

[Anonymous]

If the handball is considered unintentional by the ref, he can award a freekick inside the penalty box. At least that's the rule during my time playing the game... :?

Ugh stupid American TV, no games being broadcasted today.... :x

Never heard or seen that rule implemented here, its either intentional and you get a penalty, or unintentional in which case you play on. The only reason i can think of why a free kick may be given in the box, is an indirect one for example if the keeper takes to long to kick the ball (over 6 seconds officially) or handles it from a deliberate pass back or throw in to him.

all hands in the area must be called penalty kick unless the hand/arm is in contact with the body (shite, I can't find another way to explain it)... end of the discussion... IMO



Yep pretty much thats how i think it should be ideally, if you raise your arms in the penalty area you shouldn't complain if you get a handball given. But i just checked and it is definately in the 2004 rules that the handball must be deliberate, which is hard to interpret for referees IMO

**EDIT**


Penalty can be given when........
#player handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

I believe that the deliberate handball was made a rule when maradona intentionally kicked the ball, so it went and hitted a defender (???) in his hand, so you have a free penalty kick

another thing, seeing the fifa's retrogade rules and no technological help in the field, you must have another referee. So you have one in each half of the field. How many fouls and red cards, etc have been given because the referee was running from the other side of the field and he "saw something"???

yep Incidents like that were undoubtably the cause, and of course people still try it. BTW I was speaking to my friend whos a amateur ref and he said he looks for movement of the players arm towards the ball and unless he is 100% this happened he will not give the penalty.

As for the two refs idea, that sounds good in priciple but making important decisions they are both near too may be impractical, refs have different opinions and interpretations and of course egos! :lol: I agree they are sometimes a long way from the ball but that linesman are there to help too. Whatever system i'm sure we'll still have some degree of error. I can't honestly see the day when we have video referees, in practice i'm sure this would slow the game down too much, just look at the cricket, that can take ages for a decision sometimes! i'd hate to see that happen to football :-( .

[antonioledesma]

even with video help you can't always tell if it was out, in, foul, yes, no, fuck yes,
another good idea IMO is for tthe 4th referre, he must be watching a tv monitor, and when the central referee makes a mistake, the 4th referee can tell him to change his call.
No more than a minute per call

[acs power]

mv wrote:
jon_s wrote:

Did anyone see the scuffles from Barca when the match had ended? WTF was that about!


I did...Lots of emotions emerged No wonder, this was the big one. I'm sure we're still about to hear the details.

It was about an apparent racist comment from a steward, and general frustration i beleive. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4324717.stm


No. It emerged after one of the Chelsea manager team sent an air kiss ot F. Reekard. :)

[TransAm]

We dont get much football out in these parts, or not what you and I call football, y'know with a proper round ball!

But...speaking to the lads back in the UK, I hear Chelsea got through 'by the skin of their teeth'?

[Anonymous]

mv wrote:
jon_s wrote:

Did anyone see the scuffles from Barca when the match had ended? WTF was that about!


I did...Lots of emotions emerged No wonder, this was the big one. I'm sure we're still about to hear the details.

It was about an apparent racist comment from a steward, and general frustration i beleive. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4324717.stm


No. It emerged after one of the Chelsea manager team sent an air kiss ot F. Reekard. :)

ahh right thanks for the info, i must have read that worng :oops:

[bmwmpower]

it was one of the best match that i see, fantastic - 1 half was like from other space
how many lazy and boring and now this - still ofensive football is best, i love Barca,
but chelsea and frontal atack in 20 min. - masterpiece
Waiting for comments from guys of Catalonia, Dani and more ...

BTW i had dream monday and in mine dream was result 4:2 for chelsea, this is TRUE !!!

[bmwmpower]

Who cares about the referee's decisions??? Chelsea scored 4 goals!!! That's enough to send a team back to home... FCB had a lot of defense mistakes, in the three goals... and the penalty gave us air... but that's all. If the second match would have been played in Barcelona, the final result would have probably been different... I think that Barça has proved to be a better team than Chelsea... but in football, the winner is the one which scores more goals... that's all. May be next year...

And about Ronaldinho... last year was a brilliant season for him and for the FCB, but this year, he is not as good... he can score a superb goal as the second one, and then stay two or three games without doing anything. It's like Rivaldo... I think Eto'o is even better this season... but against the Chelsea... he was not in the game... May be with Marquez, as antonioledesma has said, the result could have been different... but again, with Robben and Drogba, Chelsea could have scored three more goals...

However, yesterday the Juve send the Real Madrid back to home... and that's a very good new for the Barça enthusiasts... jejeje.

ronaldinho played well,belleti also,
and that Real , poor result for Spain football

[antonioledesma]

the Juve send the Real Madrid back to home... and that's a very good new for the Barça enthusiasts... jejeje.

that was the best part of my day.... :D malditos merengues!!! :D :D

now my bets go with... mm, chelsea, no other team is as strong as they are right now

[crayzayjay]

I was at the game, absolutely brilliant match.

Despite the fact Chelsea won, there is no doubt in my mind that Barca is the better team (in all areas but defence - fools). Chelsea were boring, in fact they were playing like an away team. There was an element of luck to two of their goals, and they were helped tremendously by Barca's non-existent right back for the third... Chelsea did score more goals so you can't say they didn't deserve to go through, but i just hated their strategy on the day. If Eto had scored that sitter things would have been very different.

ps. Ronaldinho is the best player i've ever seen live. He was tackled ONCE in the game, didn't give away possession a single time, and was so strong and skilful on the ball. Oh yeah, that goal was absolutely mindblowing :shock:


Edit: forgot to mention, Ronaldinho twice had bananas thrown at him by the Chelsea fans behind the goal. First when he scored the penalty and then again later on :roll: