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03-05-2005, 08:31 PM

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03-05-2005, 08:34 PM

Excelent! :D

Pimp Racer

03-05-2005, 08:39 PM

WHOA! GREAT JOB TT! I think someone else already posted this on GTP or somewhere. Those look very familiar! But anyways I must must find a way to add them on my site! I dont think imageshack will allow that big file size! :(

03-05-2005, 08:47 PM

Big?!?

less than 400 kb each dude

Pimp Racer

03-05-2005, 08:51 PM

Big?!?

less than 400 kb each dude
Oh nevermind then. The ones I saw on GTP or here I cant rember were like 1.2 or 1.4 mb's each! Alright well I will upload these when I get the chance with proper credits or course! :D

sentra_dude

03-06-2005, 12:31 AM

Great scan...has anyone driven those two cars at the 'ring yet in GT4? Anyone come close to those times? So far I have only driven that MB in the license test around the 'ring in GT4.

I remember Grand Prix Legends...keeping one of those 1967 F1 cars on the track for 8+min while at speed, now that is tough! :twisted:

5vz-fe

03-06-2005, 02:04 AM

That's an insane time for the ring.

dingo

03-06-2005, 04:32 AM

WHOA! GREAT JOB TT! I think someone else already posted this on GTP or somewhere. Those look very familiar!.....

I have also read it so that must be where I got it from :) , but the quality of TT's scans are much better - so thanks :D

bmwmpower

03-06-2005, 04:59 AM

great article, since i dont had PS2, i drove cars in Racer trought nurburgring,
sadly mine fastest time is somewhere between 10-11 min. , in Chrysler Crossfire,
that track is real test of driver

03-06-2005, 07:42 AM

That's an insane time for the ring.

Well as they hint in the article, it is much easier to go fast when you don't risk to die (ence playing a videogame) ;)

st-anger

03-06-2005, 08:56 AM

..interesting read but as matteo already hinted the very last sentence is probably the most important one...

...nevertheless even when i´m nearly 40 :roll: :wink: i´ll definitely buy this game and the console just to check it out and i´m very curious about the realization although i have to say that i´m quite sure that it´s not really close to reality, one has to drive at least 100 laps to just know the corners a bit and find the correct/fast line - do not think it´s that easy like in the game in real life, personally i´ve driven thousands of laps at NS and still think that there´s some room left to improve some corners...

why i´m saying all this has a simple reason - i´ve been driving at NS for a very very long time now seeing many ppl beeing seriously injured or even worse....dying....

last year a friend of mine came back earlier from a sports car training at NS after TWO participants died within the first two days, one in a GT2 the other one in a Caterham, and he said that it´s just insane how ppl are starting to drive at NS, waaaaaay too fast without considering the risks...
i´d like to give u an example here and i´m sure those of u who´ve already played the game will confirm this - in real life when u approach e.g. the Karussell too low so not with both tyres entering the inclination at the same time u´ll simply loose the car and actually "fly" out of the section - this is how the GT2 driver was killed instantly...
doesn´t look very spectacular, doesn´t sound very spectacular but´s been enough to kill a family father.
and i´m sure the game doesn´t simlulate this detail like it´s in real life... :|

don´t get me wrong i´m NOT against the game including the NS and i´m happy that ppl all over the world have now the chance to actually "explore" the track like never before, BUT as we can see over the years - ppl tend to risk more and more without practice resulting in an increased number of deaths and serious accidents and i fear that this might get worse and worse when especially the younger ppl are thinking that they´ve practiced enough on the PS2... :?

...this may be a bit off-topic now and many´ll think "ya ya, old man and his worries..."
but i definitely hope that it´s also a small thought-provoking impulse... :!:

03-06-2005, 09:51 AM

Completely agree with you on this one obviously! The NS lately gained bigger and bigger reputation, and while some years ago not many ppl would know what you mean when you will talk to them about this track, it's no more the case. Soon even a RR Phantom will have, between his selling factors, 50'000 km testing at the ring flatout.
The Ring is finally in main stream videogames. (I remember playing it in Grand Prix Legends, but for sure GT has a bigger target). And for sure this will lead to more and more ppl wanting to test their skills there in real life.

it is a dream for me too. Already was before GT4 actually.

But sadly many ppl think they are able to master their car when in fact they aren't. And I am not talking about Lamborghini, Porsche or Ferrari owners only. I saw a guy spinning an E46 323 in town some time ago.. it was wet ok, but still :roll:

I just hope this won't lead to more strickt regulation on the NS or even to it to be closed for the main public :bah:

zr2man99

03-06-2005, 12:35 PM

In GT4 I ran like a 5:46 lap in my Minolta Toyota 88cv. I probably could have ran much faster if I knew the track better. My 1200hp toyota made up a lot of time on the straights. I was going 250mph down the back stretch, NOS is fun.

bmwmpower

03-06-2005, 01:53 PM

But sadly many ppl think they are able to master their car when in fact they aren't. And I am not talking about Lamborghini, Porsche or Ferrari owners only. I saw a guy spinning an E46 323 in town some time ago.. it was wet ok, but still :roll:

I just hope this won't lead to more strickt regulation on the NS or even to it to be closed for the main public :bah:

agree, but when or where they had chance to learn driving,
those drifts tricks in TV looks great and very easy, also in top gear,
but its pretty hard, normal driver, or average can drive car that 323i maybe on 80% potencial or limit, but when he crossed that, its for him new teritory ... , quitte pointless, better- i read in autocar - chief redactor is thinking that GT4 is first helpful game, all you can learn there you can use in reall life

ikon2003

03-06-2005, 03:41 PM

Beautiful article TT. Surprised they wrote about a video game in EVO, but then again, that's what i really love about this magazine - it's everything about "The Thrill Of Driving"

I read a blurb review of Forza Motorsport - looks to be very good. Can't wait for some head 2 head comparison.

robruf

03-07-2005, 01:37 AM

Never been into video games at all, but this GT4 seems to be really well done and since it has the N-Ring in it, that is just icing on the cake.

callen

03-07-2005, 08:24 PM

Awesome article TT, I liked how there was a method to his madness, and this was more than just a "test" of the game. also did i read that correctly did he have one of those "race car" set ups (recaro seat, and box to sit in) as well? awesome time I imagine and a great way to start Gt4 fully unlocked and with 500 million bucks!

03-07-2005, 08:36 PM

Well you can see the set up in one of the pics, vaguely, a tubular frame, and so on, yes.

As to start the game like that.. you can for sure already download 100% complete games with all tracks and cars unlocked + billions credits, but where is the fun in it?

5vz-fe

03-07-2005, 09:57 PM

I definitely die many times driving at the ring. Altho I watch countless motorsports laps on TV, I was never able to remember the corners. Now that I've driven the ring (in GT4 of course), I couldn't have imagine how ppl were to goto ring for the first time and drive at 7/10. The track is far too tricky. Even in GT4, when going over bumps, it's quite easy to lose control of ur car, I could imagine in real life with humidity and other factors comes into play.

1zippo1

03-11-2005, 03:00 PM

My dream is to once have a nice car like a Boxster S and take it to the ring. It's just an hour away from my home but I can hardly go now with my moms Yaris :D

thx for the scan TT, it surely makes an interesting read!

03-11-2005, 03:03 PM

I would be there on a weekly basis if I would live one hour away!!!!!!!!

1zippo1

03-11-2005, 03:07 PM

I would be there on a weekly basis if I would live one hour away!!!!!!!!

I know ... and I've never been to the track :?

My mom won't let me leave the country with the car because she's scared that something might happen... And I don't have any friends who're really into cars.

So till I have my own car, I probably won't have the chance to visit the Ring...

Ghostbat

03-11-2005, 03:21 PM