***Melbourne GP 2005***

[Toronto]

GP WeekendFriday 04 Mar 2005
11:00 - 12:00 Practice 1
14:00 - 15:00 Practice 2

Saturday 05 Mar 2005
09:00 - 09:45 Practice 1
10:15 - 11:00 Practice 2
13:00 Qualifying

Sunday 06 Mar 2005
10:00 Qualifying
14:00 Race

Weather
Sunday - 66/54 Precip:0% Mostly Cloudy More (http://www.weather.com/activities/travel/businesstraveler/weather/weekend.html?locid=ASXX0075&from=search)

Team/Race Drivers
Ferrari: M Schumacher, R Barrichello
BAR: J Button, T Sato
Renault: F Alonso, G Fisichella
Williams: M Webber, N Heidfeld
McLaren: K Räikkönen, J P Montoya
Sauber: J Villeneuve, F Massa
Red Bull: D Coulthard, C Klien
Toyota: J Trulli, R Schumacher
Jordan: T Monteiro, N Karthikeyan
Minardi: C Albers, P Friesacher

Track InfoTrack length: 5.303 km
Number of laps:58 (307.574 Km)
Number of corners:16 (left:6) (right:10)
Top speed: 325 Km/h
Best lap: M. Schumacher - 1'24''215 (2004, Ferrari)
Record Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'24''408 (2004, Ferrari)
2004 Pole: M. Schumacher - 1'24''408 (Ferrari)
2004 Podium:
1. M. Schumacher
2. R. Barrichello
3. F. Alonso

2005 Australian Grand Prix Final
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired
1 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault Winner
2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +5.5 secs
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault +6.7 secs
4 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +16.1 secs
5 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW +16.9 secs
6 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes +35.0 secs
7 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing +38.9 secs
8 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes +39.6 secs
9 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota +63.1 secs
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +64.3 secs
11 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda +1 Lap
12 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +1 Lap
13 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
14 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda +2 Lap
15 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap
16 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap
17 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth +4 Lap
Ret 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari +15 Lap
Ret 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW +15 Lap
Ret 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +41 Laps

[sameerrao]

Sticky Senor?

[ZfrkS62]

:multi: FINALLY the 2005 season is here :multi: :D

[saadie]

and just one lil thingy ... mention the time zones ... cuz i got no idea when its 2 pm in melbourne ... it will prolly be like 8 am here :?

[T5]

Let´s see if there will be more competition this year for Schumi... :D

[dingo]

and just one lil thingy ... mention the time zones ... cuz i got no idea when its 2 pm in melbourne ... it will prolly be like 8 am here :?

I'm pretty sure you are 6hrs behind Melb, so yes at race start it will be 8AM :wink:
I can't wait for tomorrow morning, coverage starts at 6am and goes through till 5pm....and then the same on Sunday :D

[possessed_beaver]

yer boi, i watched some of the pratice, whats with red bull racing very impressive, alot diferent from the pratice session last year,

with the changes i find the cars are looking much more sexy.. not sure why! lol

webber "15 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:27.329 "

very disapointing!

[antonioledesma]

and just one lil thingy ... mention the time zones ... cuz i got no idea when its 2 pm in melbourne ... it will prolly be like 8 am here :?

I'm pretty sure you are 6hrs behind Melb, so yes at race start it will be 8AM :wink:
I can't wait for tomorrow morning, coverage starts at 6am and goes through till 5pm....and then the same on Sunday :D

and I don't any freaking idea of the time in melbourne, neither in asia.
I'll have to find the gmt time

I looove the time zone convertor at f1.com
I hope my computer isn't playing with me... I'm at a time zone of GMT-6:00, so I'm 17 hours from the race time.
I'll see the race at 9:00 pm on saturday night :D

[c_theodoros]

first "action" photos from the BMW.Williams F1 team ... 8)

http://img168.exs.cx/img168/6138/qp0034094sx.th.jpg (http://img168.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img168&image=qp0034094sx.jpg) http://img168.exs.cx/img168/2627/qp0034071zb.th.jpg (http://img168.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img168&image=qp0034071zb.jpg) http://img168.exs.cx/img168/5637/qp0034062rd.th.jpg (http://img168.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img168&image=qp0034062rd.jpg)

http://img168.exs.cx/img168/4200/qp0034105iq.th.jpg (http://img168.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img168&image=qp0034105iq.jpg) http://img168.exs.cx/img168/2784/qp0034119im.th.jpg (http://img168.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img168&image=qp0034119im.jpg)

[5vz-fe]

What a scray act of God trying to shuffle the grid around.

[c_theodoros]

First Qualifing...

http://img203.exs.cx/img203/3802/qp0034187zm.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034187zm.jpg) http://img203.exs.cx/img203/4581/qp0034196ve.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034196ve.jpg) http://img203.exs.cx/img203/7046/qp0034254vj.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034254vj.jpg)

http://img203.exs.cx/img203/2829/qp0034225ds.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034225ds.jpg) http://img203.exs.cx/img203/1619/qp0034233ri.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034233ri.jpg) http://img203.exs.cx/img203/9821/qp0034249py.th.jpg (http://img203.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img203&image=qp0034249py.jpg)

[antonioledesma]

theodoros, from which webpage you got those pics?

edit:
and toronto beated me up with the qualifying....

god bless the rain!!!
and excellent place for MS :wink:. This sesion has now become the perfect thing to see the second sesion and race :mrgreen:

[Max Power]

/\/\/\
first "action" photos from the BMW.Williams F1 team ...

well, hopefully Montoya will crash into Raikkonen while overtaking him

[sameerrao]

Excellent job by Karthikeyan. He was impressive in damp conditions. Schumi, Massa and Sato were caught out by a sudden change in weather for the worse.

[dingo]

and I don't any freaking idea of the time in melbourne, neither in asia.
I'll have to find the gmt time

I looove the time zone convertor at f1.com
I hope my computer isn't playing with me... I'm at a time zone of GMT-6:00, so I'm 17 hours from the race time.
I'll see the race at 9:00 pm on saturday night :D

I use a program called Sun Clock which has a map of the world and shows the times in as many places as you choose....here is a screenshot:

http://img166.exs.cx/img166/3035/untitled1copy8mh.th.jpg (http://img166.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img166&image=untitled1copy8mh.jpg)

so by this I calculate you are 17hrs behind Melb :wink:

[gis]

The grid for the ace is sure goin to be interesting.the live show starts at 1:55am here and im sure they said with the race starting at 3am.im glad the F1 season is back,and from what looks like goin to be an interesting season.

[c_theodoros]

theodoros, from which webpage you got those pics?


these are the official photos from BMW Motorsport 8)

btw this is a forgotten photo from the launch at Bahrain a few weeks back:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/9813/image15fg.th.jpg (http://img218.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img218&image=image15fg.jpg)

priceless...

[antonioledesma]

I use a program called Sun Clock which has a map of the world and shows the times in as many places as you choose....here is a screenshot:

http://img166.exs.cx/img166/3035/untitled1copy8mh.th.jpg (http://img166.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img166&image=untitled1copy8mh.jpg)

so by this I calculate you are 17hrs behind Melb :wink:

coool (even when I hate to use this word, I can't find another :D) did you downloaded it from mapmaker.com?
I'l try to find it, thanks a lot


theo: thanks, I'll look later for those pics 8)

[|Nuno|]

Don't forget, kids: Qualy 2 in 10 minutes. :D

[antonioledesma]

1.- G- Fisichella
2.- Trulli
3.- Webber
4.-Villeneuve
5.-Coulthard
6.-Klein
7.-Heidfeld
8.-Button
9.-Montoya
10.-Raikkonen
11.- Barrichello
12.-Karthikeyan
13.-Alonso
14.-Monteiro
15.-R. Shumacher
16.-Friesacher
17.-Albers
18.-M. Schumacher
19.-Sato
20.- Massa
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/5834/qual2mel8vm.th.jpg (http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=qual2mel8vm.jpg)

[ZfrkS62]

I expect Schumi to drop the 8 in his grid position :wink: Congrats to Fisi though, he had a nice combination of luck and skill apparently. This should be an exciting season opener :D 3.5 hours to go :mrgreen:

[|Nuno|]

Dude, this new Qualy is rediculous... Boring and unfair.

I'm glad for Fisi tough. :D

[antonioledesma]

I like it!! just for now. But we'll have to wait for other races

[sameerrao]

Wasnt Kimi's save awesome?

He looked like he was going to wreck it after he went on the grass and headed for the wall. A instant dose of opposite lock and throttle control and he was back on his way.

Not since Nigel Mansell have I seen such a beautiful save ....

[TransAm]

Just a few minutes now lads....

/shouts at wife to turn from BBCA to Speed!!! :mrgreen:

[sameerrao]

Just a few minutes now lads....

/shouts at wife to turn from BBCA to Speed!!! :mrgreen:

/shouts at TransAm2001's wife to turn from BBCA to Speed!!!
Dont make me come down there. :mrgreen:

[TransAm]

LoL!

Renault...Quelle surprise!

Good job I am not a betting man or I would have lost money on that outcome!

[Max Power]

Wasnt Kimi's save awesome?

He looked like he was going to wreck it after he went on the grass and headed for the wall. A instant dose of opposite lock and throttle control and he was back on his way.

Not since Nigel Mansell have I seen such a beautiful save ....

lmao.......Brundle is an idiot
qualifying is the dumbest thing, anything to keep Ferrari off pole

[ZfrkS62]

WTF?!?! Has the world gone mad?! I think i need to withdraw my comments about DC being washed up :shock: So much for F1 being boring :D I think the only person i predicted to be on podium actually made it was Barrichello :D Schumi must be PISSED about being taken out, but then again it allows Ferrari to swap engines with no penalty, so smart of them to bring him in.

I knew they had changed the rules on tire compounds to try and slow the cars down but i didn't know they only had one set for the entire weekend :shock: what a race. I'm sure it's only a few hours now until Fisi is drunk as a skunk in celebration of his first full race victory :D

[sameerrao]

LoL!

Renault...Quelle surprise!

Good job I am not a betting man or I would have lost money on that outcome!

Dammit! I should have - I got Fisi and Alonso right. My mistake: I predicted Raikkonen instead of Barrichello.

Looks like RBR must have fueled the car with some Red Bull. Who would have predicted their speed.

[Ghostbat]

i hope fisi DIES, i hate his recent cookiness, and its funny how the he has 2 race wins and he can thank the rain for both of them.

had it not rained, and MS had a better qualy, you knows where he would of finished.

thank God for Chello, we'll see how long fisi can keep it up.

Had I been a better driver and qualified first maybe I would win, but that's not what happend. I'm not very sure that Schumi had won either way. He's driving today was very weak. BTW this must be the first time that rain hasn't helped "The Rainmaster".

[Toronto]

now, now guys, he did say it started to rain at the end of is fast lap, and on his trip to the pits he said he almost spun out at low speeds, schumi had to set a fast lap in worse weather, just goes to show you who has real skill :wink:

[ZfrkS62]

i hope fisi DIES, i hate his recent cookiness, and its funny how the he has 2 race wins and he can thank the rain for both of them.

had it not rained, and MS had a better qualy, you knows where he would of finished.

thank God for Chello, we'll see how long fisi can keep it up.

Barrichello was closing in on him, but i really don't think you can blame the rain on his win. His pole yes, but not his win. He set a trio of fast laps early in the race and drove extremely well. Had Alonso not come in 3rd, i would have been second guessing Renaults threat to the Ferrari throne. This might be the fear the Tifosi had at the beginning of last year.

My amazement is more at DC who had a beautiful start to snatch 3rd and end up finishing 4th. He'll be the one to see if it was a fluke or not. Red Bull it's self was a sight to behold today. It was 1957 i think that a debut team had both cars take away points on it's maiden race day. Red Bull's intensity was quite surprising and i would like to see if they can stay near the front of the grid all year.

But i think Fisi will be able to keep the pressure on for the championship. Thisis going to be an exciting year :multi:

[ZfrkS62]

but this qualy has got to change, would love to know whos idea it was


i think this all started after the Japan saturday qulay got rianed out so they bumped qualifying to the day of the race. it seemed to work well at the time so they stuck with it.


well the qualifying was the start of it and well with the launch of the Renaults and with no real threat behind him it was a easy win.


They still had to get through pitstops. and having Barrichello charging ehind you is not going to be something you just brush off. Fisi earned this victory IMO. I'm not a fan of him but i can appreciate a hard earned victory. Especially with ahving to lap traffic :P

my disappointments lie with Honda and Toyota. Neither of the Japanese tems could manage a damn thing today, which is a real shame given Buttons season last year and Toyota's big ass budget. Trulli really did seems to lose interest in the race and i don't know what the hell happened to Ralf. Sato wasn't a threat to anything either, thos kudos to him for keeping his engine in tact :mrgreen: And i honestly don't know what to think of the wreck between Klein and Schumi :| unfortunate to say the least.

[dingo]

Webber came 5th.....thats the most important thing out of this race :P It wasn't a particularly exciting race IMO, but good to see some different faces in the points :D
I really don't like the new engine rules, its stupid seeing guys pulling into the pits to have a DNF so they can use a new engine in the next race.....stupid!!! :(

[Ghostbat]

ahh and the best of all MS will have a new engine for the next race, with NO penalty WEEEE. itll be interesting to see if and how many engine failures there will be

Naturally that is an advantage but reliability isn't much of a problem for ferrari anyway..My guess is that it's more of a disadvantage for the other teams to drive with the same engine than it's an advantage for Ferrari to get a new. Hope you understand what I mean..

[mike_sayer]

I say congrats to DC after a solid drive to answer his critics, and his move on Webber at the start was the best overtake we've seen in F1 in a long time - ballsy, skillful and damn well executed. Very disappointed in BAR, they look like they're gonna have some issues this season.

I'm not sure why people aren't recognising Fisi's fine win - ok sure qualifying was messed up by the weather, but he still drove an excellent race where he didn't make a single mistake and pulled out schumi-style fast laps when he needed to. Kimi and JPM were an embarassment to Mclaren, i think they had more pace than they showed but Kimi kept making stupid mistakes at crucial points. Ice man? I don't think so...

Oh yeah, and Schumi's crash was most definately his fault, he squeezed Heidfeld way too much, but hey that's him - an exceptionally dirty driver who'd rather retire than get overtaken.

[dingo]

I say congrats to DC after a solid drive to answer his critics, and his move on Webber at the start was the best overtake we've seen in F1 in a long time - ballsy, skillful and damn well executed. Very disappointed in BAR, they look like they're gonna have some issues this season.

I'm not sure why people aren't recognising Fisi's fine win - ok sure qualifying was messed up by the weather, but he still drove an excellent race where he didn't make a single mistake and pulled out schumi-style fast laps when he needed to. Kimi and JPM were an embarassment to Mclaren, i think they had more pace than they showed but Kimi kept making stupid mistakes at crucial points. Ice man? I don't think so...

Oh yeah, and Schumi's crash was most definately his fault, he squeezed Heidfeld way too much, but hey that's him - an exceptionally dirty driver who'd rather retire than get overtaken.


I think its a bit early to make that assumption about BAR :wink:

I agree about Fisi, he did what was needed.....alot of people have started on pole and not won the race so you can't say he only won because of 'luck' in qualifying :)

and I have to say your comment about MS is crap........if that was the case I doubt he would be a 7-time world champ :roll:

[mike_sayer]

I think its a bit early to make that assumption about BAR :wink:

I agree about Fisi, he did what was needed.....alot of people have started on pole and not won the race so you can't say he only won because of 'luck' in qualifying :)

and I have to say your comment about MS is crap........if that was the case I doubt he would be a 7-time world champ :roll:

Yeah you're prob right about BAR, let's hope they can pull something out.

But i still think that was typical Schumacher, he knew he was going to finish at the bottom end of the points, he knew if he retired he could change his engine, so he didn't give a crap. And one of the reasons he's a 7-time world champ is cos of his dirty driving...remember his little "incident" with Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1994?

[coombsie66]

I think its a bit early to make that assumption about BAR :wink:

I agree about Fisi, he did what was needed.....alot of people have started on pole and not won the race so you can't say he only won because of 'luck' in qualifying :)

and I have to say your comment about MS is crap........if that was the case I doubt he would be a 7-time world champ :roll:

Yeah you're prob right about BAR, let's hope they can pull something out.

But i still think that was typical Schumacher, he knew he was going to finish at the bottom end of the points, he knew if he retired he could change his engine, so he didn't give a crap. And one of the reasons he's a 7-time world champ is cos of his dirty driving...remember his little "incident" with Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1994?

I totally agree with you mike (the fact that we both agree'd as we were watching it who's fault it was is irrelevant :wink: )

Schumacer tried to close the door too late, as he didnt realise hiedfeld was gunna make a pass, heidfield was already at the limit of decelleration, and schumi squeezed him onto the grass, turning him into a very expensive bob sled/battering ram.
How else can you explain it dingo?

[|Nuno|]

I don't think it was anyone's fault. Shit happens.

What I don't understand is that when it happens with Michael or Ferrari people always make a big fuss about it. Get over it.


And one of the reasons he's a 7-time world champ is cos of his dirty driving...remember his little "incident" with Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1994?

Which was 11 years ago. Again, get over it.

And his dirty driving is one of the reasons why he's a 7-time World Champion?? Riiiight.

Oh, wait... Michael did soo many "dirty-drivings" in 2004, 2003, 2002, etc... :roll:


As for the Race, it was interesting, and could be even more if it weren't for those stupid regulations...

Red-Bull was indeed a big surprise. :shock:

And I was expecting more from B.A.R. and Sauber (Villeneuve was a joke)...

Already looking foward for Sepang. :D

[saadie]

And I was expecting more from B.A.R. and Sauber (Villeneuve was a joke)...

Already looking foward for Sepang. :D

you are so fucking right ....... villeneuve and button really did it this time ... :|
i hope sephang is not as pathetic as this :roll:

[c_theodoros]

Congrats to the Renault guys, for a job well done !!! 8)

RedBull team and D.C. performed exceptionally well to everyone's surprise 8)

Anywayzzz, regarding the BMW team, they did perform O.K. but they had the chance to do better :twisted:

Reagrding the insident between Nick Heidfeld and M.S. i believe M.S. did not leave enough space to Nick to avoid hitting him...

and...

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[SafirXP]

its a shame that we can't see those pit crews working like before... no tyre changes! i agree to all the regulation changes but this one is a bit too much!!!

[mike_sayer]

I don't think it was anyone's fault. Shit happens.

What I don't understand is that when it happens with Michael or Ferrari people always make a big fuss about it. Get over it.


And one of the reasons he's a 7-time world champ is cos of his dirty driving...remember his little "incident" with Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1994?

Which was 11 years ago. Again, get over it.

And his dirty driving is one of the reasons why he's a 7-time World Champion?? Riiiight.


I'll get over it when he stops doing it.

People make a fuss about it when anything happens to him because we're so used to seeing him win all the time, it's a refreshing change when he doesn't.

[Max Power]

thinking like that is why F1 has the 2 race engine rule, combined qualifying and all these new bullshit rules

[|Nuno|]

I'll get over it when he stops doing it.

Dude, you're talking like if he did the "dirty driving" every GP... Yeah, he's an agressive driver, but not exacly a Kamikaze...


people make a fuss about it when anything happens to him because we're so used to seeing him win all the time, it's a refreshing change when he doesn't.

Even when he didn't win it was the same, at least from my experience... And I still think that's not right, but that's just my opinion. :)
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Australian GP Fastest Laps

1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:25.683
2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:25.994
3 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:26.233
4 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.255
5 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:26.260
6 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:26.261
7 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.393
8 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:26.493
9 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:26.536
10 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:26.627
11 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:26.690
12 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:26.854
13 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:26.893
14 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:27.116
15 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petrona 1:27.745
16 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:27.877
17 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:27.970
18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:28.999
19 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:32.852
20 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:33.144


I think that by the middle of the Season (or even before), we'll see some records being broken.

[T5]

I think that by the middle of the Season (or even before), we'll see some records being broken.

Are you sure?
With the new rules on tyres and qualifying, I think that it´s an opimistic afirmation...

[|Nuno|]

^^

Lol, messy quote, huh? :P

Are you sure?
With the new rules on tyres and qualifying, I think that it´s an opimistic afirmation...

Yep, I think so. I mean, Alonso's fastest lap was only 1.2 or 1.5 seconds off last year's best lap... And this on the 1st Race of the Season... It shows that the engineers are always one step ahead of the FIA. :D

[T5]

Let´s wait and see if it happens on the next few round of the F1 Championship :wink:

[dingo]

I think its a bit early to make that assumption about BAR :wink:

I agree about Fisi, he did what was needed.....alot of people have started on pole and not won the race so you can't say he only won because of 'luck' in qualifying :)

and I have to say your comment about MS is crap........if that was the case I doubt he would be a 7-time world champ :roll:

Yeah you're prob right about BAR, let's hope they can pull something out.

But i still think that was typical Schumacher, he knew he was going to finish at the bottom end of the points, he knew if he retired he could change his engine, so he didn't give a crap. And one of the reasons he's a 7-time world champ is cos of his dirty driving...remember his little "incident" with Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1994?

I totally agree with you mike (the fact that we both agree'd as we were watching it who's fault it was is irrelevant :wink: )

Schumacer tried to close the door too late, as he didnt realise hiedfeld was gunna make a pass, heidfield was already at the limit of decelleration, and schumi squeezed him onto the grass, turning him into a very expensive bob sled/battering ram.
How else can you explain it dingo?

What I said was that he isn't a dirty driver who won his championships through that tactic, I never said I didn't think he was at fault in the Heidfeld incident :wink:

[brandonrambo]

Does anyone else think that JV really sucks and he's totally lost it? He's just an old, overpaid whiner now. I dont think he'll make it through the season.

[mike_sayer]

I'll get over it when he stops doing it.

Dude, you're talking like if he did the "dirty driving" every GP... Yeah, he's an agressive driver, but not exacly a Kamikaze...


people make a fuss about it when anything happens to him because we're so used to seeing him win all the time, it's a refreshing change when he doesn't.

Even when he didn't win it was the same, at least from my experience... And I still think that's not right, but that's just my opinion. :)
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Hehe yeah i guess you're right, i am generalising a little too much!

It's a shame though that people, myself included, get "excited" when something happens to Schumi that means the rest of the field has a chance. I guess that's something else that goes to show how incredible his record is, despite some of his tactics :wink:

[mindgam3]

Good race...

I'm sure Ford will be kinda gutted after letting go of Jaguar given the performance and speed of the Red Bulls.

It also proves that Coulthard is a good driver, as many people don't believe; you only have to look at his past Championship positions to see how good he is - not a champion, but definately a good driver.

BMW performed better than expected, there car wasn't looking that good pre season and pre race.

Ferrari didnt look special at all.

McLaren looked fast at times but Kimi or Juan Pablo didnt push when they needed too. IMO JPM could have got a podium if he tried.

Drivers having a brand new engine for next race wont be too much of an advantage as all engines will be designed to last the distance. If anything there's an advantage to the drivers with engines on their second race as they know it won't have to last another one. If an engine is going to blow, it'll blow, nothing you can do about it.

I don't know why everyones complaining about the quali - it could have rained in a one session quali and the grid would have been the same. On a constant weather weekend though it will hopefully provide a mixed up grid which can only be a good thing

BAR is no where, they need to do a lot of work do get up to the top again.

Williams look like they can work on this weekends result and I reckon they're more of a championship contender than I previously thought.

Renault and McLaren are hot shit, the macca drivers had a particuarly bad race though.

Great race, looks like it will be a great season ;)

[possessed_beaver]

http://www.schumachersucks.com/?page=adeilade - read, shui aint the good guy some people may see him as, very cocky (in a bad way)

as for the race, i was too hung over slept in a missed it (i was in a riot the night before, dingo may of seen it on the news) i recorded it thoe, watched was quite an intresting race, exelent result for redbull, but maybe they had a fast engine today, that will be unable to last until the next race...

exelelent race for renult!

the next race in 2 weeks should be intresting

[komotar]

I just finished writing my F1 1000+ word article describing the whole weekend for the magazine.

It was an interesting race. I was suprised that only one tehnical difficulty occurred.

Maybe the engine will give in to the pressure in the next race....we'll see, but so far, it looks that all the teams did the homework. Even minardi :wink:


I can't wait for the next race. Shumacher will be attacking with full pwer and I hope others will hold their own.