BMW Z4 M & E91 Touring Spyshots

[acs power]

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050214.001/6050214.001.Mini3L.jpg

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050214.001/6050214.001.Mini1L.jpg

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050214.001/6050214.001.Mini2L.jpg

[crayzayjay]

Thanks man. I wonder what engine the Z4M will get :D

[adamwich]

Thansk for posting! Both look nice!

[bmwmpower]

Z4M - im not sure M3 engine V6 3.2,343 hp, we will see

[|Nuno|]

Thanks man. I wonder what engine the Z4M will get :D

The new 4.0 V8 with 400hp. Not 100% sure tough, but close. :D

Thanks for the pics.

[crayzayjay]

Z4M - im not sure M3 engine V6 3.2,343 hp, we will see
er..... V6? are you quite sure the M3 has a V6? ;)


I tend to agree with you Nuno, there is space for a V8 in the engine bay (as Hartge have proved) so i think they'll stuff the rumoured 400bhp V8 in there... Appetising :D

[bmwmpower]

I6 , i always write V6, cos more then every 6 cylinder is V6
sorry then :D

[Just_me]

according to BMW,V8 with around 400hp

[acs power]

looks the engine will be fine. but I don't like how the car looks at all. the front of Z3 was much more agressive and nice...

[crayzayjay]

I disagree. The Z4 on a whole is a more brutish looking car than the Z3 :mrgreen:

[dutchmasterflex]

I disagree. The Z4 on a whole is a more brutish looking car than the Z3 :mrgreen:

i agree... i hated the Z3.. thought it was the epitome of a bitch car.. on the other hand.. i love the Z4 ;)

[acs power]

I disagree. The Z4 on a whole is a more brutish looking car than the Z3


i agree... i hated the Z3.. thought it was the epitome of a bitch car.. on the other hand.. i love the Z4


:? matter of taste, obviously
Let me guess: you didn't like the Z Coupé and dont want them to make a Coupé of the Z4?

[crayzayjay]

Actually, i love the M coupe :lol:

[acs power]

:!: Me too :wink:

[cooperluke]

Actually, i love the M coupe


How can you hate the Z3 M, and love the M Coupe?? They're not so different for you to have a so distinct opinion about one and the other...

[crayzayjay]

First of all, the M coupe wasnt offered with the weedy 1.9l engine. The fact it only comes with a 300bhp+ engine already marks it out as a serious car.

Secondly, i love the quirkiness of the thing. And while i disliked the Z3, i could never dislike an M car. Ive driven a Z3M and it's not a hairdresser's car.

Maybe hate was a strong word for the Z3. I just didnt like the fact it was below BMW's capabilities. It's still a decent car....

Boy am i complicated eh? :lol:

[CSedl87]

First of all, the M coupe wasnt offered with the weedy 1.9l engine. The fact it only comes with a 300bhp+ engine already marks it out as a serious car.

Secondly, i love the quirkiness of the thing. And while i disliked the Z3, i could never dislike an M car. Ive driven a Z3M and it's not a hairdresser's car.

Maybe hate was a strong word for the Z3. I just didnt like the fact it was below BMW's capabilities. It's still a decent car....

Boy am i complicated eh? :lol:
nah, I'm the same way about it too. As for the V8 in the Z4, the thing would be pretty damn nose heavy. I say next gen I6 that goes into the M1 will also be in this thing.

[23790554]

the Z4 looks fun to drive in the snow, i am sure it will be

[ferrarif1fan89]

^^^i agree. BMW shouldnt put the V8 in it, but then again, when has BMW made a bad M-car?

[Sir_GT]

You never know... they might make it rear engined.










:roll:

[ferrarif1fan89]

You never know... they might make it rear engined.
:roll:

hell, even if they did, it would probably be incredible.

[pimrusis]

Actually, i love the M coupe


How can you hate the Z3 M, and love the M Coupe?? They're not so different for you to have a so distinct opinion about one and the other...

Sure there was, the Z3 M was ugly, the Coupe was hot.

[neilo63]

put the V10 in there!!!!!!

jk that would be a little silly.
i cant wait for it though should be a hell of a car.


BMW isn't Mercedes, they don't put the same engine in every car variant they have. Im sure the Z4M will be a true drivers car like any other M. Can't wait.

[JiggaStyles09]

yea i would have to say that they will probably put the I6 in there too, it just seems to fit the car better. but if they put the new V8 i dont think there will too many people bitching :wink:

[chest3r]

I am seeing spypics of the Z4 M since the car came out..... When will this great car be available ?? :roll:

[bruinxman]

no Z4 M version

Z4 Alpina is gonna fill that shoe

[ZfrkS62]

no Z4 M version


Nope, i have it from i highly respectable source the the MZ4 is going to be produced.

and given the proximity of the E90 M3, it will more than likely have the 400hp V8.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[tuffguy]

no Z4 M version
I'm pretty sure that's wrong... I think the Z4M was mentioned in this month's Motor Trend.

Z4M gets the current M3 engine, and the new M3 gets a slightly neutered V8 version of the V10 in the current M5.

[bruinxman]

no Z4 M version
I'm pretty sure that's wrong... I think the Z4M was mentioned in this month's Motor Trend.

Z4M gets the current M3 engine, and the new M3 gets a slightly neutered V8 version of the V10 in the current M5.

oh really? damn...well thats cool

i wonder why they waited so long?

[tuffguy]

no Z4 M version
I'm pretty sure that's wrong... I think the Z4M was mentioned in this month's Motor Trend.

Z4M gets the current M3 engine, and the new M3 gets a slightly neutered V8 version of the V10 in the current M5.
oh really? damn...well thats cool

i wonder why they waited so long?
probably sales positioning. you don't want a Z4M to steal M3 sales. it would probably outperform the M3 too since it weighs less. this way the Z4m fills in the gap til the next M3 comes out.

that's my quess anyway.

[Just_me]

Z4 wont get the current E46 engine. Thats totally wrong.

[bmwmpower]

i love all M cars :D

[bruinxman]

no Z4 M version
I'm pretty sure that's wrong... I think the Z4M was mentioned in this month's Motor Trend.

Z4M gets the current M3 engine, and the new M3 gets a slightly neutered V8 version of the V10 in the current M5.
oh really? damn...well thats cool

i wonder why they waited so long?
probably sales positioning. you don't want a Z4M to steal M3 sales. it would probably outperform the M3 too since it weighs less. this way the Z4m fills in the gap til the next M3 comes out.

that's my quess anyway.

interesting...i dont think its to fill the gap between the time
but its possible it gets the same engine just like the old M roadster got it

maybe i should get that huh? =) but thats the car you like

[gobs3z]

Well putting the 4.0L in there wouldn't neccessarily make the nose heavy, if they move the engine as far back as they can the balance between the front and rear would be a lot better, and anyways it's an aluminum block so it won't be horribly heavy either way. I really hope they do put the V8 in there!

[styla21]

It's worthy to note that in the new M5, the new V10 engine weighs the same as the old V8. With progress in engine development, it seems that just because it is a bigger displacement / more powerful engine the weight doesn't necessarily increase. So the Z4 M version may not be as bloated and heavy as you think if it does get an 8. Also, i've heard from a 'credible' source that the output on the new M3 is stated at 409 hp, and the coolest news is there has been an interesting development to help prohibit loss of power from the drivetrain. Any ideas ZfrkS62? Will post info ASA proven and hard copy. :idea:

[gottacatchup]

The old M Coupe is a beast and a damn good car along with the standard coupe, i was never a fan of the roadster versions though.

I'm glad to finally see some serious effort being put in by BMW on this car. They've definately taken their sweet ass time making a true drivers car out of the Z4. And by the looks of it and what the "rumored" engines are it wont be one to dissapoint. Just wish they made a coupe version.

[Anonymous]

I disagree. The Z4 on a whole is a more brutish looking car than the Z3 :mrgreen:

i agree... i hated the Z3.. thought it was the epitome of a bitch car.. on the other hand.. i love the Z4 ;)

Not the M Roadster. . .

Still the Z4's chassis is far superior than the Z3s so it should be able to handle a V8. But even if they just put the current 3.2L I6, it would still be an awesome M car.

[ZfrkS62]

It's worthy to note that in the new M5, the new V10 engine weighs the same as the old V8. With progress in engine development, it seems that just because it is a bigger displacement / more powerful engine the weight doesn't necessarily increase. So the Z4 M version may not be as bloated and heavy as you think if it does get an 8. Also, i've heard from a 'credible' source that the output on the new M3 is stated at 409 hp, and the coolest news is there has been an interesting development to help prohibit loss of power from the drivetrain. Any ideas ZfrkS62? Will post info ASA proven and hard copy. :idea:

I haven't heard or seen anything about it other than what we've been discussing here and what i've briefly talked to my field service engineer about.

When this does finally come out though and i get some material on it, i will let you all in on it. only thing i can think of, is they found an even more efficient way to get the power through the gear box. (fear not, BMW will never use the CVT). either they developed a new type of clutch and they are testing it in the MZ4, or they revamped the synchros and gears somehow. That's all speculation though.

To get the power out of a 4L V8 that you are saying you heard, i'm thinking the compression is going to be damn near 12:1 (S62 squeezes 11.3:1, and it has an extra liter of space to fill) this is going to be a trick engine for sure 8)

[Anonymous]

ZfrkS62 - do you work for BMW? Just wondering.

Z4 wont get the current E46 engine. Thats totally wrong.

Care to explain your thoughts behind that?

[ZfrkS62]

ZfrkS62 - do you work for BMW? Just wondering.



how could you tell?:mrgreen: Yeah, i'm a service tech. Which is why i've been able to shut down those S54=shit engine debates pretty quickly :wink: It's alot of fun...until a module in a 7 decides it doesn't want to program and it takes out the entire audio system (current issue with the update programming software):roll: then i want to drive them of the nearest cliff...which around here, isn't that close :lol:

[Just_me]

ZfrkS62 - do you work for BMW? Just wondering.

Z4 wont get the current E46 engine. Thats totally wrong.

Care to explain your thoughts behind that?

No, lately, all rumours are saying V8 and looking at the competition(SLK55), V8 is the way to go, logical thinking :wink:
Also, Z3 had the same engine as M3 E36 and later M3 E46

Besides, nothing more you can do with the current M engine from M3 E46.

Im not expecting everyone to belive like me but remember I said it. If Im wrong I will send you one of my two nuts :wink:

[Anonymous]

^ Hahah, no thanks, You could keep your nut.

Yeah, like I said earlier in my post. I think that if you throw the I6 in there, the Z4 would not disappoint. I mean 333hp is pretty damn good. The 400hp V8 isn't bad either. We'll see.

[ZfrkS62]

/\ as light as the Z4 feels, i can only imagine how rapid the torque will kick you in the ass with the S54, let alone 400hp V8 :D :twisted: