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bmwmpower
01-31-2005, 01:29 PM
http://autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=213192
from autocar, is really interesting, on those pics car looks ok, but im not sure,some new bmw cars are really not good looking
Toronto
01-31-2005, 02:52 PM
don't think they will make it look like that if they ever really make it.
looks kinda like that v-12 hydro car.
dutchmasterflex
01-31-2005, 03:17 PM
droool.. gonna be a very nice successor to the Z8...
the roof is gonna be amazing! folding carbon fiber top! sick!
Fleischmann
01-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Interesting idea, but we will see if the 700BHP V10 will pass regulations and be allowed for the road. I hope they return to their roots with the styling. And many years will pass before this goes into prodcution. I hate waiting :x :x :x
bmwmpower
01-31-2005, 03:26 PM
i read- from bmw boss- expecting somethink like 250hp 1000 kg roadster with high-tech stuff, he says to autocar: power way like merc is not that way,
and 700 hp ...
Looks great... and sounds better! A 700hp V10 engine "which powers the Williams F1" is fantastic. A good successor for the Z8 I think...
BTW... M6 CSL??? :twisted:
Don't expect this powerplant in the production form...If it is given a green light it'll be powered by a tweaked V10 from the M5.
findleybeast
01-31-2005, 04:02 PM
sounds like a great idea - a roadster with a beastly V10 in the front. I would love BMW for making that (if they can manage to style it right).
BMW M6 CSL has a nice ring to it as well... :twisted:
mindgam3
01-31-2005, 06:33 PM
According to the full magazine article, this will probably be the M9.... looks great ;)
23790554
01-31-2005, 07:01 PM
not much to see from the concept pic
ferrarif1fan89
01-31-2005, 08:26 PM
wow, very impressive. but i think they would use the v10 from the new "M" cars. that thing should fly if its ever produced. but i doubt thats what it would look like.
Sir_GT
01-31-2005, 11:35 PM
It will never happen the way Autocar wrote it.
I'll predict...
5L V10
Aluminum chassis
No fixed roof (possibly a CF targa top)
Carbon parts (drivetrain, etc)
Magnesium-alloy wheels
Plastic and aluminum paneling
2 seats
a boot.
I can never see BMW doing a foldable hard top, simply because they are against the weight it adds to the car. Even if the roof is CF, the mechanicals needed to fold it, and to strengthen the body, will definitely upset the weight balance they keep going on about.
But... like the article said... the M6 might render the whole project useless, since they might not need it anyway.
ikon2003
02-01-2005, 01:20 AM
That's a pretty trick design. As long as they can get the aesthetics right, it could be pretty sweet. V10 is always nice - I think Bimmer will try and milk as many cars as they can w/ all that new technology, knowing how expensive that RnD is. And I'm all for it.
tekwar
02-01-2005, 01:27 AM
a formula 1 engine in a production car? hmm sounds too good to be true...hah
neilo63
02-01-2005, 01:36 AM
I want it badly to happen
Anonymous
02-01-2005, 02:25 AM
If they stick w/ the current naming designation, it should be still called a Z8 because it is two doors.
See, BMW right now is full of contridictions. First they want everything to be named 2 doors = Even #s, 4 doors = Odd #'s.
Then they can't make the M1 because that name has heritage. Also they can't name another car the M4 because the M3 moniker has too much marketing power/tradition.
And now they want to go back to a Z9? The Z3 was renamed the Z4 to start the process, but now I guess they will revert it back w/ the Z9.
ferrarif1fan89
02-01-2005, 02:27 AM
If they stick w/ the current naming designation, it should be still called a Z8 because it is two doors.
See, BMW right now is full of contridictions. First they want everything to be named 2 doors = Even #s, 4 doors = Odd #'s.
Then they can't make the M1 because that name has heritage. Also they can't name another car the M4 because the M3 moniker has too much marketing power/tradition.
And now they want to go back to a Z9? The Z3 was renamed the Z4 to start the process, but now I guess they will revert it back w/ the Z9.
true, the BMW people shoulda thought of this before they started naming shit.
crasherror
02-01-2005, 02:35 AM
This car shows a lot of promise. I hope they deliver on the predictions. however i don't think that 700 hp will make it into production. The looks of this car sure are original.
Pwoarrr
02-01-2005, 03:08 AM
Nice concept, the design looks really sweet and the powerplant would be to die for.....however, I wouldn't believe it until I actually see it. Those magazine scoops usually over-hype any little info they can get their grubby hands on. :roll:
From a financial standpoint, I don't think BMW would develop a new powerplant when tweaking their recent V-10 is a more sensible solution!
DeMoN
02-01-2005, 03:20 AM
looks AWESOME dammit that is a sexxy carrr... I mean that is almost as sexy as Angelina Jolie, now add V10 to the name and u got Jolie wearing a thong.
DMbaseball1604
02-01-2005, 03:28 AM
I guess I'm just not used to seeing a BMW look like that...b/c that isnt that appealing to me...I mean yeah it looks cool I guess but it does not look like a BMW but, its just a concept
wow2000
02-04-2005, 05:41 PM
Needs to be done becasue the competion is really good out there. Benz, Ferarri?
BMW need a high end roadster/coupe to compete against mercs, porsches offerings etc. Doubt the concept pictures will be truly recreated in the flesh. All the sharp lines would fail new pedestrian safety laws and regs in a number of countries.
Also the M5 V10 is the obvious choice, a F1 engine revs over 10k, has little or no torque at low revs and would be almost impossible to drive at cruising speeds. It also would suffer reliability issues and cost a fortune to build. And the only thing a m5 V10 shares with a Williams V10 is the number of cylinders.
Hope they build it before the accountants stop them.
wow2000
02-05-2005, 07:10 AM
it is about time
ZfrkS62
02-05-2005, 11:12 AM
BMW need a high end roadster/coupe to compete against mercs, porsches offerings etc. Doubt the concept pictures will be truly recreated in the flesh. All the sharp lines would fail new pedestrian safety laws and regs in a number of countries.
Also the M5 V10 is the obvious choice, a F1 engine revs over 10k, has little or no torque at low revs and would be almost impossible to drive at cruising speeds. It also would suffer reliability issues and cost a fortune to build. And the only thing a m5 V10 shares with a Williams V10 is the number of cylinders.
Hope they build it before the accountants stop them.
i doubt it will be built. Not with the new M roadster coming out following the E90 M3. Baisically Z4 meets M3GTR. 4 liter V8.
And bullshit the only thing the S85 and P84 engines share is cylinder count! Yeah it has a bigger bore but that's for the torque increase. Yeah it Revs at 8250, but there is no way a road-car can redline at 19,500 and still be expected to make it through warranty. Hell an 8,000 RPM redline for a roadgoing V10 is just unheard of!
They weren't saying it would BE an F1 engine. they were saying it would be F1 BASED. Which more than likely means it will share the S85 V10, should it ever make production.
lev_p
02-05-2005, 12:07 PM
No way they will use F1 V10, even tweaked. Basic F1 engine has extremely long mileage to rebuild - something around 1000km. OK, let's say they tweak it. Then it'll do 50K km to rebuild and will cost a fortune to produce, run and rebuild. The car with such eninge will have the faith of BMW M1....
Articles speaks about V10 of M5. That's more likely. But, hell, who needs such engine? Even the aforementioned M5's V10 is limited to 400hp in normal conditions, with a "Power" switch to join the other 107 cheerleaders to show off.
95% of customers for this car don't even use it's full 400 hp... :roll:
As for styling - I'm afraid we'll never see the classic BMW look again. Not on standard cars that come from the plant... :?
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