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chernobyl
10-18-2003, 08:03 AM
Zonda has an AMG tuned Mercedes engine it. But maybe you want more grunt so you let say Kleemann or Carlsson toy with it to see how much more they could get from it...

I honestly dont know the technical's of the Zonda's engine so maybe AMG are already getting the best from it but Kleemann pumped an extra 20%+ out of the SL55 AMG....
mendocino
10-18-2003, 08:07 AM
why not but I think 500+ bhp is enough... and I really don't want the noise to change.. it's so brutal and wild... :D
TT
10-18-2003, 08:24 AM
IMO you can't touch such car... not even a top tuner like Klemann should ever try...
mendocino
10-18-2003, 08:27 AM
as long as the motor is the only thing they change is just a slight prepatation.. so I'm not opposed to that. :D
Johns
10-18-2003, 01:07 PM
the Zonda is a perfect car, I just wonder why it doesnt get alot of recognition :?
Mircea
10-18-2003, 01:33 PM
Indeed, perhaps Kleemann or Carlsson could get more power from Zonda's engine, but what for? The car is perfect as it is, and why do you need more power? You've seen the videos with Zonda on Top Gear and 5th Gear. You've seen what he can do.
Jabba
10-18-2003, 05:06 PM
the Zonda is a perfect car, I just wonder why it doesnt get alot of recognition :?

i know, there isn't a 1:18 scale model of it yet but when there is ill be getting it!! i love the Zonda and it shouldn't be molested with because a car that good and exotic can't be tuned only molested.
SL55 AMG
10-18-2003, 05:20 PM
The Zonda is great as is...however if more power is necessity

Why not have AMG drop in their new V12 from the CL65/S65?!?!!?

456.4 kW / 612.0 bhp at 4750-5100 rpm
1000.0 Nm / 737.6 ft lbs at 2000-4000 rpm <=== THIS FIGURE WAS DETUNED FOR PRACTICAL AND reliability REASONS!!!!!!!
1zippo1
10-18-2003, 06:44 PM
The Zonda is great as is...however if more power is necessity

Why not have AMG drop in their new V12 from the CL65/S65?!?!!?

456.4 kW / 612.0 bhp at 4750-5100 rpm
1000.0 Nm / 737.6 ft lbs at 2000-4000 rpm <=== THIS FIGURE WAS DETUNED FOR PRACTICAL AND reliability REASONS!!!!!!!

You can buy (if you have the money) the zonda stock with the same engine but a different engine management.

normal: 555hp
stage 1: 580hp
stage 2: 600hp

so that's a lot, certainly if you take into acount it only weights 1250kg
WhiteP
10-18-2003, 08:07 PM
The Zonda already has the perfect balance, adding more power may upset the balance.. or weight distribution. Also, the engine is tuned to be reliable for everyday use.

I guess the Zonda didn't get much recognition because it doesn't appeal to everyone unlike the Ferrari. Myself don't really like the front of the Zonda, especially the little bug eyes, but the rear is perfect.
stracing
10-20-2003, 01:15 AM
i know, there isn't a 1:18 scale model of it yet but when there is ill be getting it!! i love the Zonda and it shouldn't be molested with because a car that good and exotic can't be tuned only molested.
there is a resin kit for it, can't remember the manufacturer
tkach
10-20-2003, 01:34 PM
i bet you could get alot more power outta that motor tho. 600bhp is kinda week for such a large v12. but taking into accountability that the whole car is carbon fiber making too much torque might twist and break the cars chassis. but no i dont think its wrong if you put a diffrent motor in a car only if it makes it faster without fucking up handeling.