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ferrarif1fan89
01-16-2005, 11:16 PM
When it went on sale in 2002, the S7 was the only street-legal car in the U.S. with more than 500 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque. The media and S7 owners have raved about the car and it has been recognized by numerous automotive magazines as the fastest American production car in the world.

But during the past three years the automobile marketplace has witnessed an explosion of performance with models from manufacturers including Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Chevrolet touting power numbers above the once magic 500 level. Saleen is not an organization content to rest on yesterday's 0-60 mph times or quarter-mile speeds. So for 2005 it's ''all hail the S7 Twin Turbo!''

This is the first major change to the S7 since its introduction, and it is a BIG change as in 750 horsepower and 700 lb-ft of torque, numbers the competition will be chasing for a long while we predict.

What's New for 2005

It was pretty obvious to Saleen product planners during the late 1990s that horsepower and torque numbers were trending upwards, especially among the
purveyors of supercars. And power figures that looked spectacular at that time might seem quite ordinary a few years down the road. So Saleen engineers have been planning for this day since they drew the first line on a computer screen for the original S7's 7-liter engine.

Aerodynamics has also come under scrutiny for 2005. Unless you place the new S7 Twin Turbo next to one of the original 2002 models, you probably won't notice that the 2005 version has a different diffuser/rear spoiler package and reshaped front fenders to enhance the S7s already sleek, swoopy and aerodynamic contours. For the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo, the redesigned front and rear diffusers, along with the new rear spoiler, result in a 40 percent reduction in aero drag and a 60 percent increase in down force.

To complement the Twin Turbo's enhanced straight-line performance envelope The S7 chassis has also undergone a fair amount of tweaking. Virtually every suspension pickup point has been changed, and the suspension geometry has been modified for less squat and dive during acceleration and braking.

To further improve driving comfort and ergonomics, the S7 Twin Turbo incorporates a revised pedal box. The clutch and throttle lever ratios pedals have been changed for lighter pedal efforts. In addition, the three pedals have been spaced farther apart without impinging upon the dead pedal.

Engine & Drivetrain

The new all-aluminum V8 engine casting was engineered and tooled by Saleen to displace seven liters. Space age materials and engineering are used throughout, including stainless steel valves, titanium retainers, beryllium exhaust valve seats, an aluminum throttle body, Saleen-designed aluminum CNC-machined cylinder heads and stainless steel exhaust system. The V8 incorporates a unique Saleen-designed side-mounted water pump, a belt-driven camshaft drive and a Saleen-engineered dry sump oil delivery system.

The engine's mid-chassis placement optimizes weight distribution and makes room for an unusually tall engine that allows for a very efficient induction system. Air enters a roof intake, passes through a 90-mm mass air meter and feeds into a carbon fiber plenum. From the plenum the air is routed to the twin ball bearing turbos, is pressurized to 5.5 psi max and then passes through an oval-bore throttle body into an aluminum intake manifold with eight individual runners.

To feed juice to this setup, the injection system includes dual electric fuel pumps and high-capacity, return-less, 52 lb/hr fuel injectors. Neatly engineered and integrated into the S7's stainless steel, dual, high-flow exhaust system are two, twin-ball-bearing, water-cooled Saleen-Garrett turbos, featuring 44-mm wastegates. The four exhaust pipes from each bank of cylinders merge into a race-car-like high-efficiency collector. In addition, the exhaust incorporates dual
catalysts per cylinder bank, EGR and those aforementioned twin wastegates.

And because Saleen believes in power and clean air, the emission control system features dual, heated oxygen sensors per cylinder bank and a high-volume evaporative emission system along with those four catalysts. Oh, and for good measure and clean air, the system is OBD-II compliant.

One of the few internal changes to the twin-turbo engine is a swap from hydraulic to solid lifters. This change allows the engine to rev higher and harder. Also, as is typical with turbocharged engines, the compression ratio has been lowered. It drops from a very high 12.0:1 in the previous naturally aspirated V8 to a still high 11.0:1. And for increased durability, Saleen engineers also added oil squirters to cool the undersides of the pistons.

A new-generation six-speed transaxle, with a unique Saleen bell housing, transfers power to the wheels. The clutch is an organic/metallic 8.0-inch, twin-plate unit
with hydraulic actuation.

Chassis, Suspension & Brakes

A major improvement in ride is achieved for 2005 with the use of coil springs that are a dual-stage design. The first spring has a lower rate than the single springs fitted to the current S7, resulting in softer ride during normal street driving. But if you remember your history, you know that the S7 is a flat-bottom, downforce car. The faster you go, the more downforce the S7 develops. In the case of the S7?s new dual-stage springs, the second stiffer spring starts coming into play at around 100 mph when the car begins to develop serious downforce.

Chassis tuning also includes revised shock valving front and rear. Saleen-engineered Brembo-supplied lightweight aluminum six-piston mono-block
calipers are fitted front and rear. The brakes are among the largest of any production car with 15-inch vented discs up front and 14-inch vented discs at the rear.

Geometry changes, along with new tires, result in about a 30 percent increase in mechanical grip . . . which is substantial. In a seeming contradiction to current
performance tire practice, the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is fitted with taller tires, 275/35R19s up front and 335/30R20s at the rear. While the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires have higher aspect ratios, they also lay tire patches that are 1.5 inches wider at the rear.

Conclusion

None of the S7's major supercar competitors, such as the Ferrari Enzo, the McLaren F1 and the Maserati MC12, are a match for the S7 Twin Turbo's prodigious horsepower and torque figures: All are at least 100 bhp and more than 200 lb-ft in arrears of the S7. Chalk up another victory for good old American V8 engine ingenuity.

It's also no contest when it comes to price. The Manufacturer?s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is $555,000. That's $100,000 less than an Enzo (which is out of production and escalating in price) and nearly $300,000 fewer dollars than the Maserati. And you could have Her and His S7s for the price of the McLaren F1!

Story by Saleen Inc, edited by Supercars.net


Specifications
Year 2005 Origin Not Available
Make Saleen Base Price $555 000 USD
Model S7 Twin Turbo Production Not Available
Engine & Transmission Body / Chassis
Position Not Available Drive Wheels RWD w/Limited Slip Differential
Configuration Twin Turbo All Aluminum V8 w/Dry Sump Lubrication Curb Weight 1338 kg / 2950 lbs
Valvetrain Not Available Length 4774 mm / 188.0 in
Displacement 7000 cc / 427.2 cu in Width 1990 mm / 78.3 in
Power 559.3 kw / 750 bhp @ 6300 rpm Height 1041 mm / 41.0 in
Torque 949.07 nm / 700 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm Wheelbase 2700 mm / 106.3 in
Bore 104.6 mm / 4.12 in Front Track 1748 mm / 68.8 in
Stroke 101.6 mm / 4.0 in Rear Track 1710 mm / 67.3 in
Redline 6500 Steering Not Available
HP / Liter 107.14 bhp per litre Body / Frame Honeycomb Composite Panels over Steel Space Frame
HP / Curb Weight 560.54 bhp per weight Front Brakes Brembro Ventilated Discs w/6-Piston Monobloc Calipers
Gear Type 6-Speed Transaxle Front Brake Size 381 mm / 15 in
1st Gear Ratio 2.86:1 Rear Brakes Brembro Ventilated Discs w/6-Piston Monobloc Calipers
2nd Gear Ratio 1.61:1 Rear Brake Size 356 mm / 14 in
3rd Gear Ratio 1.14:1 Front Wheels F 48.3 x 24.1 cm / 19 x 9.5 in
4th Gear Ratio 0.96:1 Rear Wheels R 50.8 x 30.5 cm / 20 x 12 in
5th Gear Ratio 0.81:1 Front Tires Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 275/35ZR19
6th Gear Ratio 0.64:1 Rear Tires Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 345/30ZR20
7th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Suspension Unequal Double Wishbones w/Aluminum Dampers, Coil-Over Srpings, Anti-Roll Bar
Final Drive Ratio 3.70:1 Rear Suspension Unequal Double Wishbones w/Aluminum Dampers, Coil-Over Srpings, Anti-Roll Bar
Performance
Top Speed Not Available 0 - 60 mph 2.8 seconds
0 - ΒΌ mile 10.7 seconds 0 - 100 mph Not Available
Lateral Acceleration Not Available EPA City/Hwy Not Available

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coloradosilver
01-16-2005, 11:25 PM
Holy Shit!!! I didn't see this comming!

Can't wait to see some on road vids and head to head comparos!

ferrarif1fan89
01-16-2005, 11:30 PM
note the underbody air channels, the exhaust exit position being changed,, the rear and front spoilers. if the looks are any indication, this thing will surely FLY! also, the paint looks nice......

coloradosilver
01-16-2005, 11:37 PM
Yeah, that paint looks just like a shade they used on corvettes a few years back called "Carmine Red" I love it!

sentra_dude
01-17-2005, 01:27 AM
:arrow: http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22143

;)

komotar
01-17-2005, 05:55 AM
Does anybody have any saleen laptimes, you know, to compare them with the competition?

Anybody?

SilenCe
01-17-2005, 06:53 AM
Damn! The car is amazing, and the power as well.

SPEED_DEMON82
01-17-2005, 07:06 AM
NIce real nice......cant wait to read abt some track review abt this 1 now. :wink:

oantob
01-17-2005, 09:12 AM
this is just awesome! only took 2.8 sec to reach 60...! :twisted: this car absolutely too fast for me...and to expensive...

mv
01-17-2005, 10:15 AM
this has been posted a pretty long time ago....

ikon2003
01-17-2005, 01:22 PM
Def a repost :wink:

def no laptimes for this yet - i don't even think it's available for testing. NA S7 - highly underrated, so few ppl tested (some reason ppl just didn't think americans could build supercars, and i don't think saleen tried to really integrate it into europe. )

komotar
01-17-2005, 03:10 PM
about the laptimes.

It doesn't matter, if they are from the "ordinary" or the "turbo" model.

I just wanna see, how the car compares to other supercars...

I tried searching a bit but no luck....

ikon2003
01-18-2005, 02:34 AM
^i agree i want to see how they compare w/ other supercars.
but to see the difference in the evolution of the S7 would be nice too (and i think it's an inevitable comparison - it may even be more likely that the S7 vs S7TT comparison gets done before an S7 vs other supercar test occurs)

dangerously_cool
01-18-2005, 04:00 AM
This rules. I'd been thinking that they'd fall behind, but now they're right back with and ahead of the pack. Go Saleen.

OVERLORD_CHRIS
01-18-2005, 05:12 AM
Man i would kill for that car! and i mean hit!

HoboPie
01-19-2005, 12:39 AM
I remember a European mag did a subjective test of the original S7 and came to the conclusion that it was essentially an Enzo-lite. Everything was just a little less extreme.

rachaderua
01-19-2005, 01:00 AM
OMG!!! 750 hps seems to be enough for a great lap time. :D

adamk24
01-19-2005, 04:18 AM
Man.... This was news to me. And I was just having a conversation today with some mustang idiot that said the saleen s7 is the fastest supercar in the world. After I put the numbers beat down on him, Im shocked to see that they too realized the mediocresy of the s7 considering its compitition.

I cannot wait to see this thing in some tests. It should be awsome~!! :mrgreen:

OVERLORD_CHRIS
01-20-2005, 06:36 AM
Well before the Enzo hit, it was THE car to beat, and then all those cool cars came out except for the Enzo, still ugly...but any way it was like a tammer F1, is what Car & Driver was comparing it too, since that was the only thing to compare it to at the time, lighter and faster then the Lambo, just a hair quiker to 60mph then the F1, and cost much much less. But now adays you can pay almost the same price and get better performence.

My thing is, why did I jump up in price almost another $200K, are they using Turbos that NASA made for them or some thing? $394,000 to $550,000est.

Chingachgook
01-20-2005, 09:17 AM
Thisi is too much. I don't like the Saleen, and I don't like this version too. I'd take a Koenigsegg CCR :P :P

ikon2003
01-20-2005, 01:19 PM
^Where does the "too much" come in? 750bhp s7tt < 806bhp ccr

dangerously_cool
01-20-2005, 08:13 PM
Thisi is too much. I don't like the Saleen, and I don't like this version too. I'd take a Koenigsegg CCR :P :P
Way to back up your opinion with reasons...

OVERLORD_CHRIS
01-23-2005, 07:23 AM
what's not to like about a 750hp Supercar That goes over 220mph?? :roll:
It does every thing you want, and then some.

ferrarif1fan89
01-23-2005, 10:04 PM
Thisi is too much. I don't like the Saleen, and I don't like this version too. I'd take a Koenigsegg CCR :P :P

pardon me, but are you mentally retarded?

dangerously_cool
01-27-2005, 02:17 AM
Well, seeing as 750 is too much, and 800 > 750, yet he prefers 800, yes--he is mentally retarded.

ferrarif1fan89
01-29-2005, 04:14 AM
Well, seeing as 750 is too much, and 800 > 750, yet he prefers 800, yes--he is mentally retarded.

BRILLIANT! lol! :D i dont think chingachgook can count!