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TT
01-14-2005, 07:43 PM
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BADMIHAI
01-14-2005, 08:50 PM
Holy mother of fuck. :shock: I thought the Macca owned the record for "The Fastest Production Car", not "The Fastest Road Legal Car". :?

JoeHahn
01-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Bout time, maybe people can stop crapping on about the Mclarens top speed. Thanks for the scans TT :)

dingo
01-15-2005, 03:54 AM
Thanks laot for this TT, will find some time to read it - should be interesting :D

bmwmpower
01-15-2005, 04:29 AM
Thanks for scan, Nice but im waiting for speed test of new CCR- if it will beat Mclaren F1 record

findleybeast
01-15-2005, 04:47 AM
sweet. 9ff is one serious tuner to be coming up with products like that car. Obviously it didn't break any records as a production car, but as a street legal car this is one hell of an acheivement. As far as i know this isn't the first one ot break 241mph, but nevertheless that's one hell of a benchmark for a fledgling tuning company

SilviaEvo
01-15-2005, 05:07 AM
this is amazing that a starting up tuning company can top 240mph

TT
01-15-2005, 05:31 AM
As others I think the "real" record is for "production car" not roadgoing car.. I mean, it's not that tuners aren't allowed into the game, but still, it is two different things :D

And BTW, also funny how the road legal car had to have the rearview mirrors removed and be dutch taped everywhere to reduce drag ;)

but who cares in the end, it is an incredible achievement!

5vz-fe
01-15-2005, 05:55 AM
It is no doubt a fast car and a very good and fast-rising Porsche aftermarket company. However, as far as record goes, it requires too much assistance to achieve that speed even tho it got hundred something more horses than the F1.

astonmartinandy
01-15-2005, 05:08 PM
That's an awesome feat of engineering from these guys - but yet again the McLaren F1 is used as their benchmark 12 years after it's release?! We all know the F1 was in production and had mirrors wipers and no duct tape!!

Don't get me wrong, this is a phenominal achievement, but not exactly going to knock the F1 out of the world record books..

st-anger
01-15-2005, 05:22 PM
....waited for this one - THX matteo :P :P :P

Jan is a great guy - i´m really glad that his project is so successful :D

ikon2003
01-15-2005, 05:44 PM
haha, only 833 bhp? jeez, that's one f'ing awesome car. Lovin the 9ff.

ikon2003
01-15-2005, 07:54 PM
^just fishing, but i think that small wing is put there in order to ensure the stability at high speeds. it looks as if it was fashioned for very very low downforce (minimal drag) but just enough to direct air straight off the back of the car.... and the side flaps at the ends of the wing look as if they keep the car left-right stable. sorry can't give a better explaination - fluid dynamics never really were my thing :wink:

Schwalbe
01-15-2005, 11:51 PM
I'm happy that it's a Porsche who made this record. :D

Thanks TT for this great article.

sentra_dude
01-16-2005, 02:26 AM
^^^Sweet! :D

yg60m
01-16-2005, 03:41 AM
To achieve this speed, they had to remove rear view mirrors and put a special aerodynamic kit. None of this was made with the McLaren :wink:

VincentBlack
01-16-2005, 10:31 AM
visit my website : www.need4speed.ws ,
some speed pics with this Pörsche 9ff :D

ikon2003
01-16-2005, 12:15 PM
wow thanks great article - tomorrow I think I can provide a video to the record lap

That would be awesome.

And yeah, just noticed they took off at least one side-rear view mirror.. def illegal in most places on the streets.

robruf
01-17-2005, 12:19 AM
great job on the record, imagine what they could do if they had proper aerodynamics all the way around the car with all of that super hp. Nice article as well

takata
01-17-2005, 12:45 AM
well, the Mc wasnt that stock either.
rev limits were raised, mirrors were removed too

To achieve this speed, they had to remove rear view mirrors and put a special aerodynamic kit. None of this was made with the McLaren :wink:

sentra_dude
01-17-2005, 12:57 AM
well, the Mc wasnt that stock either.
rev limits were raised, mirrors were removed too

To achieve this speed, they had to remove rear view mirrors and put a special aerodynamic kit. None of this was made with the McLaren :wink:

The rev limiter may have been rasied...but what gave you the idea they removed the mirrors?

numerouno
01-17-2005, 02:52 AM
since i don't understand german, phobo's vid will be backed up by this great article!!! :)
BTW, they also did some stuff on Macca for the record (I don't remember exactly what they were)

stmoritzer
01-17-2005, 05:42 AM
just watched the video, amazing 388km/h

thanks TT for the article :D

more pics at 9ff homepage
http://www.9ff.de/Home2.htm

takata
01-17-2005, 10:21 AM
young man, why dun u go and read up the facts b4 u shoot?

Facts:
Mirrors REMOVED!
Limiters RAISED!

anyway, watz the big deal abt top speed?? do u have the balls / guts to do it often enuff on the public roads? or is it mainly for bragging rights and for the youngs to worship?

well, the Mc wasnt that stock either.
rev limits were raised, mirrors were removed too

To achieve this speed, they had to remove rear view mirrors and put a special aerodynamic kit. None of this was made with the McLaren :wink:

The rev limiter may have been rasied...but what gave you the idea they removed the mirrors?

ikon2003
01-17-2005, 01:20 PM
^holy sh!t, that's crazy. drift at 360kmh? ground scrapage from downforce? good lord...

mv
01-17-2005, 02:13 PM
^holy sh!t, that's crazy. drift at 360kmh? ground scrapage from downforce? good lord...

yeah, it's insane :) ...But on the other hand it's not that surprising - it is still a 911 and the 911 hasn't been intended for speeds like that.

sentra_dude
01-17-2005, 02:55 PM
young man, why dun u go and read up the facts b4 u shoot?

Facts:
Mirrors REMOVED!
Limiters RAISED!

anyway, watz the big deal abt top speed?? do u have the balls / guts to do it often enuff on the public roads? or is it mainly for bragging rights and for the youngs to worship?

well, the Mc wasnt that stock either.
rev limits were raised, mirrors were removed too

To achieve this speed, they had to remove rear view mirrors and put a special aerodynamic kit. None of this was made with the McLaren :wink:

The rev limiter may have been rasied...but what gave you the idea they removed the mirrors?

Old man, take a LOOK right here:

This picture was taken of the car at 240mph...
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/4018/mclarenf1pg37yb.jpg

Now tell me again it has the mirrors removed.

The whole article: McLaren F1 Speed Record (http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12225&highlight=mclaren+f1url)

Topspeed...its just another way to measure cars, even if its not that easily applied to real-world situations, but so what...

ikon2003
01-18-2005, 02:39 AM
^Awesome pic.

Nice place to do the testing too - a straightaway. Get the 9ff there, and it should post an even faster time. (The banking robs speed - even a test track as large as Nardo. At nardo, the speed where the centrifugal forces balance with gravity [when you can theoretically drive with no hands on the wheel, and you won't crash into anything] is about 150 mph - anything above that and you start having extra friction.)
XP3 mclaren did 233mph at nardo
XP5 (above) did 240mph.

findleybeast
01-18-2005, 03:09 AM
yeah Ehra-Lessien is a money place to do high speed tests. Not only the lack of centrifugal force to rob speed, but also the tires don't overheat from the lateral road-holding requirements.

btw sentra_dude, thanks for posting about the article from the original McLaren test... I didn't know it was on JW, and was desperately wanting it

sentra_dude
01-18-2005, 09:57 PM
^Awesome pic.

Nice place to do the testing too - a straightaway. Get the 9ff there, and it should post an even faster time. (The banking robs speed - even a test track as large as Nardo. At nardo, the speed where the centrifugal forces balance with gravity [when you can theoretically drive with no hands on the wheel, and you won't crash into anything] is about 150 mph - anything above that and you start having extra friction.)
XP3 mclaren did 233mph at nardo
XP5 (above) did 240mph.

The 9ff could probably exceed 245mph there...but I still think it isn't breaking the F1's record, because it is no where near stock. Yes its a "road car", but a number of street legal & modified cars have gone (much) faster than the McLaren's 240.1mph. So why should the 9ff be considered special if other cars in the exact same category (street legal and modified) have gone much faster?

I'm not trying to take anything away from their achievement, its great, but I still don't understand the fuss.

Btw, the VW test track has 9km long straights... Even being that long, its amazing to watch the movie of the F1 there, and how quickly the McLaren accelerates to 370ish km/h and then just eats up that 9km! 8)