new rival to 911 from Opel

[bmwmpower]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212812

please read it , looks good

[PATo355]

haha , dont think it will beat the 911 charm , its 60 years of history you cant beat

[cooperluke]

Lol... Opel, rival and Porsche 911 on the same sentence?? You can just be kidding... lol

[Gnome]

this is NOT a 911 competitor. i'm not really sure where you came up with that.

first of all, it's still the size of a VX220 (very small), 2nd of all it's 45k pounds, 3rd of all, they're making 10 a year. It's simply a special edition VX220.
Size wise it is in the 911 territory, except that I bet it will not be any taller than the other VXes. They are really low! I still don't think that the size puts it in a different class. However, the weight does. At only 900 kg it has potential to outperform and outhandle any Porsche if they set it up properly.

I guess it will be in a class of its own, more powerful than the Elise and VX220s, but lighter and less powerful than the TVRs.

[m3mys3lf4ndi]

if they'll be able to make it handle like an Exige than it will eat any 911 - and i reckon that it will handle quite good (its gonna cost u 45.000 pounds wich compared to normal VX its quite a lot).
it will be bloody quick.

[mrpushrod]

Should be quick although we'll see if they get it to handle with the extra weight. Certainly no 911 rival in terms of looks though, looks like it's sucking on a cactus which does nothing for me :lol:

[Toronto]

Size wise it is in the 911 territory

this new car has back seats? wow the things you learn.

[frozzu]

Well it's still an Opel. Just think about it. Which would you rather take, a Porsche or an Opel? It wouldn't be hard choice for me. :)

[SilviaEvo]

it looks promising but is built on too small of a scale to even be considered!

[Gnome]

Size wise it is in the 911 territory

this new car has back seats? wow the things you learn.
Don't think so, but the backseats in a 911 is a joke anyway, so I don't care about that. In terms of seating and practicality I expect it to be in a completely different class than the 911. But practicality and size is not the same, is it? I ment size as in outer dimensions.

A VX 220 is actually wider than a 911, and this VX-S will be even wider. This isn't a very small car! It is a lot shorter, though. The 170 mm extension gives it a longer wheelbase than a 911, but if you stretch a VX220 by 170 mm it will still be ~400 mm shorter than a 911.

Anyways... I didn't mean that they are competitors, I just wanted to say that there are much more relevant differences than size. My point was that a 911 Carrera 2 weighs about 1500 kg, while the Vauxhall is 900 kg. Thats less than 2/3 of one of the lightest 911s! The size difference is negligible compared to this...

[sndr]

That car is just an Opel... an Opel and if you spend a lot of money on a car you want it to look good and not be an Opel.
I'm not an 911 fan but an Opel can't stand in it's shadow

[Pimp Racer]

Elise comptition. Looks a bit weird. I perfer the Elise anyways.

[5vz-fe]

911 is not just about speed, it's about the Porsche racing history and also it's legendary H6 rear engine layout. I have no doubt that Opel will be able to make a car faster than the 911 but it will never be the same. Moreover, they are in a different category of sports car. The Opel clearly going at the lightweight track car for the road.

[cooperluke]

potential to outperform and outhandle any Porsche if they set it up properly.


ANY Porsche? Wanna bet something on that? lolol

[Gnome]

all im seeing here is a bunch of people bitching, and not taking alot into consideration.
I agree. The focus of the thread drifted of early. And I'm week in those situations. I start arguing about more or less irrelevant details. Sorry...

I should have said that this is amazing power/weight ratio, and that I think Opel/Vauxhall with their british helpers are able to make it handle close to perfectly. This is a great car no matter what you should or want to compare it to.

And the looks: It has some challenging lines, and many will call it ugly, but I like it. It's not as boring as a 911. The VX-S looks very exotic and sporty. For a average person I think it looks more exciting than a 911. A 911 looks like it always has. Just another one of those Porsches that has been around forever. (Did I provoke anyone now? :wink: )

[Pokiou]

haha , dont think it will beat the 911 charm , its 60 years of history you cant beat

if history comes into play then .. lets get lambo factories to build tractors again :)

its not the history its not how much power it has its not how much it cost that makes it a super car... its how good it goes... ..


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