BMw 1-series with a V8 from Hartge

[Just_me]

Using the engine from M5 E39 but with 450 hp and 510nm.

http://www.auto-motor-und-spor...al_ha (http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/71743/d_ams_news_special_ha)

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/03_450.71157.jpg

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/05_450.71161.jpg

[bmwmpower]

fantastic, brutal car, that engine in M5 is beast, but in the small 1 series, :D

[findleybeast]

jeez that thing's gotta move. hard to believe they stuffed a V8 into that engine bay... want to see that thing in motion now

[COFair]

holy shit! it's got some serious punch!
450Hp in the 1 series? it's capeable for time travel!
im gonna buy one... it only 105.000 Euro... :lol:

[KaBlookie]

oh god...now they've gone and done it again. Hartge seems to enjoy putting that particular 5.0-liter M-V8 into every BMW they get their hands on. They have put it on the 3,5,6,7,X5,Z3, and Z4 as far as i know...and knowing them they'll find some way (and reason) to put it in the X3.

seems like an awesome idea putting it into the 1-series, cuz it's not really a fast car to begin with...i'd like to see some vids of that tiny little beast

[gobs3z]

Agreed on handling of POO, the weight distrbution is going to suck. But a little hatch with any sort of V8 in it will always be cool, and hopefully very very fast.

[RC45]

oh god...now they've gone and done it again. Hartge seems to enjoy putting that particular 5.0-liter M-V8 into every BMW they get their hands on. They have put it on the 3,5,6,7,X5,Z3, and Z4 as far as i know...and knowing them they'll find some way (and reason) to put it in the X3.

seems like an awesome idea putting it into the 1-series, cuz it's not really a fast car to begin with...i'd like to see some vids of that tiny little beast

Maybe that's because there is no replacement for... displacement.. ;)

[blah]

oh god...now they've gone and done it again. Hartge seems to enjoy putting that particular 5.0-liter M-V8 into every BMW they get their hands on. They have put it on the 3,5,6,7,X5,Z3, and Z4 as far as i know...and knowing them they'll find some way (and reason) to put it in the X3.

seems like an awesome idea putting it into the 1-series, cuz it's not really a fast car to begin with...i'd like to see some vids of that tiny little beast

Maybe that's because there is no replacement for... displacement.. ;)

shhh dont let our american secret out. shhhhhhhhhh

[5vz-fe]

jeez that thing's gotta move. hard to believe they stuffed a V8 into that engine bay... want to see that thing in motion now

I think they stuffed a V12 into a E36ti before, thus I am sure it's not hard for them to fit the V8 into the 1-series. Handling wise, Hartge usually push the firewall backwards to create a more equal weight distribution. So I am not too worry about the handling. I mean, there will be compromises, but will not be POO like handling for sure =)

[sentra_dude]

it's gonna handle like POO! Sticking a V8 in the front of a tiny car like that is bound to make it a bit of a dog....in a straight line, however....it's gonna fly

It still won't be as poo as an Audi's handling...:P :P :P ;)

[CSedl87]

oh god...now they've gone and done it again. Hartge seems to enjoy putting that particular 5.0-liter M-V8 into every BMW they get their hands on. They have put it on the 3,5,6,7,X5,Z3, and Z4 as far as i know...and knowing them they'll find some way (and reason) to put it in the X3.

seems like an awesome idea putting it into the 1-series, cuz it's not really a fast car to begin with...i'd like to see some vids of that tiny little beast

Maybe that's because there is no replacement for... displacement.. ;)
'cause it's the easy way out :)

[blah]

it's gonna handle like POO! Sticking a V8 in the front of a tiny car like that is bound to make it a bit of a dog....in a straight line, however....it's gonna fly

It still won't be as poo as an Audi's handling...:P :P :P ;)

thats what ive been trying to say. :lol:

[neilo63]

Insane, i wonder how it drives :twisted:

[Gnome]

Handling wise, Hartge usually push the firewall backwards to create a more equal weight distribution.
I guess they have to push that firewall quite a bit backwards. Both to have room for then engine at all, and to balance the weight distribution. I think the weight difference between a 1.6L straight 4 and a 5.0L V8 is huge!

[RC45]

Handling wise, Hartge usually push the firewall backwards to create a more equal weight distribution.
I guess they have to push that firewall quite a bit backwards. Both to have room for then engine at all, and to balance the weight distribution. I think the weight difference between a 1.6L straight 4 and a 5.0L V8 is huge!

Well - it's not like the 1 series was a real car to begin with... :P

[noosee]

OMG
There is no competition for this one :D

[aks]

woah, that's one big momma of an engine for such a tiny car!

450HP!!!!! omg, psycho. the Alfa 147 GTA only has 250! this is even more than the Autodelta version!!

wat next? V12 in a smart? lol! :wink:

[possessed_beaver]

holy crap!

talk about power to weight!

i can't read german, so i don't know what the artical is about...

but im sure just saying how insane the car is.

[T-Bird]

oh god...now they've gone and done it again. Hartge seems to enjoy putting that particular 5.0-liter M-V8 into every BMW they get their hands on. They have put it on the 3,5,6,7,X5,Z3, and Z4 as far as i know...and knowing them they'll find some way (and reason) to put it in the X3.

seems like an awesome idea putting it into the 1-series, cuz it's not really a fast car to begin with...i'd like to see some vids of that tiny little beast

Maybe that's because there is no replacement for... displacement.. ;)
'cause it's the easy way out :)

well It takes more effort to stuff a large V8 in place of a 4 cylinder than it would be to slap on a turbo.

[Sm@ck]

Handling wise, Hartge usually push the firewall backwards to create a more equal weight distribution.
I guess they have to push that firewall quite a bit backwards. Both to have room for then engine at all, and to balance the weight distribution. I think the weight difference between a 1.6L straight 4 and a 5.0L V8 is huge!

Well - it's not like the 1 series was a real car to begin with... :P

well at least it has rear wheel drive!!! not to bad for a compact, how many cars in that class have that ?

[martin100]

Thats another proof that the German tuners become insane slowly :roll: First an Lotus Elise with 420hp and now this :!: But i like it of course :mrgreen: