View Full Version : C6 Z06- GM Investigators just left my front Porch
...GM had two goons - Mr Duran and Mr Chiros arrive on my doorstep this evening.
They carried with them a folder of evidence.
Seems they think I stole their property by posting the copy of a link on a forum with a question "Is this old C6 news".
The gentlemen were not satisfied with my answer that "I simply posted a link I found".
And left me with this comment".
General Motors will not let this lie - and we will spend millions of dollars to prove a point.
Nice guys we are dealing with hey... :)
So I guess I am off to secure a lawyer tomorrow.
(hey - If I need millions of dollors to defend myself - since I didn't steal any images - how about a $5 donation from everyone towards my lega fund.. :( )
ZfrkS62
11-14-2004, 08:21 PM
sounds good to me RC. But honestly i really don't think that GM has any kind of case against you. sounds like the Gestappo(sp?) is just making their rounds :fist:
they would have to prove that you persoanlly stole the pics from them somehow. and since they have yet to actually trace the source of the leak, i'd say you're in the clear. (besides, the C6 has already been released so doesn't that make this a moot point?)
but keep us posted anyway.
jamberl
11-14-2004, 08:22 PM
What? How did they find out where you live?
This is BS man, I hate how stupid companies think they can overcome the power of the internet.
Where they polite to you or did they try and intimidate you?
:shock: :shock:
ferrari550
11-14-2004, 08:26 PM
WHAT??? That is insane man. They can't do anything to you. And what is the point of spending millions of Dollars just to prove try and prove that you posted a link somewhere?
Max Power
11-14-2004, 08:28 PM
ahahahhaha
....what was in the special folder......5221 posts of criticism
BADMIHAI
11-14-2004, 08:35 PM
Why didn't you just pull out the .44 Magnum and say "You're on my property." ? :twisted:
Why didn't you just pull out the .44 Magnum and say "You're on my property." ? :twisted:
Thats when they said "See you in court".. and walked off saying "GM will spen millions to prove a point". :shock:
coloradosilver
11-14-2004, 08:42 PM
Hey RC, If you need someone to vouch for you I think there are plenty of us that will help out.
Hey RC, If you need someone to vouch for you in person if this goes all the way to court I think I'm close enough to make the trip!
LOL - :lol: - thanks man.. ;)
I am just about speechless that they actually think this is the way to handle any of this...
These 2 fools tried the "good cop, bad cop" routine - with one alternativelt threatening me, and the other consoling me... :roll:
BADMIHAI
11-14-2004, 08:44 PM
"GM will spen millions to prove a point".
They won't do anything. I'm still curious as to how the fuck they got the right to trace you. :? Isn't there a way for you to sue them for invading your privacy or some other bullshit like that?
"GM will spen millions to prove a point".
They won't do anything. I'm still curious as to how the fuck they got the right to trace you. :? Isn't there a way for you to sue them for invading your privacy or some other bullshit like that?
That's what I am going to be following up on Monday...
These twits picked the wrong person to fuck with this time.
Toronto
11-14-2004, 08:45 PM
lol GM to spend money on a little case like this,
but how did they find out were you live, i know in canada your internet provider can't give out your personal info if you request them not to.
Max Power
11-14-2004, 08:46 PM
you should have laughed in their face and then slammed the door
T-Bird
11-14-2004, 08:46 PM
what a bunch of babies over a frickin picture, all they have to do is redesign the car now :lol:
Anonymous
11-14-2004, 08:49 PM
I thought this was gonna be a wind up, if anything comes of this its just proves that our legal systems have nothing better to do than deal with petty issues like this rather than actually doing something worthwhile :roll: good luck :wink:
T-Bird
11-14-2004, 08:59 PM
did anything you post say property of GM or have any cpoyright at all?
ZfrkS62
11-14-2004, 09:04 PM
Do they not realizing that they would just be spending the millions that they just saved on advertising? :lol:
and these savings are passed onto the customer :wink:
did anything you post say property of GM or have any cpoyright at all?
No - it was apparently a screen capture of an image.
That's it.
Now I know I did nothing wrong - but the process of proving as such could prove to be a rather stressful situation.
This is where we get to think about what can say GM do, if you did have copyrighted images on your harddrive... afterall, everytime you visit their website (or anyone elses for that matter) your browser cachse THEIR property on your harddrive.
Ghostbat
11-14-2004, 09:15 PM
I think it's embarrassing for a major company like GM to go after private persons like this. I'm not to familiar with the american legal system but in Sweden (where we practice "code Napoleon, like I think you do in USA too) they would have no case at all.
Fight the power RC45. JW is behind you :!:
coloradosilver
11-14-2004, 09:17 PM
Hey RC, Did that link have anything to do with this spyshot:
http://forums.gminsidenews.com/showthread.php?threadid=8066
Check it out..at the top it says that linking to this thread is ok.
graywolf624
11-14-2004, 09:25 PM
Unless you were at the place where they showed the car or picture there of.. And agreed to the embargo on info about it.. Your safe.
The person who broke the embargo though would have a rough time in court.
thats ridiculous...................i'll kick in $5 :wink: ..........but in all honesty, how can they prove you were the one who stole the image? did you get a look at their 'evidence'? i'm still in shock that they tracked you down and confronted you like that. has this incicent changed your mind about purchasing a corvette or any GM product?
Ahhh i guess its time for you to move on down to Ford. 8) Seems like the general is trying to fuck you over. Thats not a cool thing to do to a customer, and maybe even future customer.
antonioledesma
11-14-2004, 10:17 PM
Don't worry RC, even of those idiots make something else, I'll throw my 5 bucks and even more.
Anile8er
11-14-2004, 10:48 PM
Dude that is crazy but i wouldnt worry since they cant do anything , and they have no proof. Its kinda strange that they found out where you live tho.
well all bak you tho if u need it :mrgreen:
OVERLORD_CHRIS
11-14-2004, 11:10 PM
Was it even a good pic?
This is why I like Ford better, they never send people after you lol, but hang in there, you will be OK. :fadein:
blast
11-14-2004, 11:27 PM
Isn't there a way for you to sue them for invading your privacy or some other bullshit like that?
Its kinda strange that they found out where you live tho.
well, it took me 1 minute to get his home address and real name (without using any admin privileges on this site).... so I don't find it that surprising they found out who/where so quickly and certainly they broke no laws to trace him
sounds like someone in GM is gonna get raped over this though :|
graywolf624
11-14-2004, 11:32 PM
Let this be a lesson to you youngins.. Theres no such thing as annonymity on the internet.
*the other forum I belong too has a habit of posting satalite photos of trolls houses along with pictures of their entire family. All without commiting anything illegal.. So it doesn't suprise me.
BADMIHAI
11-14-2004, 11:34 PM
so I don't find it that surprising they found out who/where so quickly and certainly they broke no laws to trace him
I never said I was surprised they could find him. I was just saying it's probabily illegal for them to find him and approach him like that. At least in Canada it is illegal. Maybe in the states the laws are different. But I'm sure RC will fill us in on that tomorrow.
stracing
11-14-2004, 11:34 PM
serious! how did you do that?
Isn't there a way for you to sue them for invading your privacy or some other bullshit like that?
Its kinda strange that they found out where you live tho.
well, it took me 1 minute to get his home address and real name (without using any admin privileges on this site).... so I don't find it that surprising they found out who/where so quickly and certainly they broke no laws to trace him
sounds like someone in GM is gonna get raped over this though :|
Well - I'd hoped I at least covered the obvious ones - like whois on the coupe domain names I owned - and not left to many traces in posts on line.. :)
PM with the route you followed - maybe help me clean up my tracks better.. ;)
Daggernite
11-14-2004, 11:43 PM
I dont believe how far GM have gone, its unbelievable. It soulds like something which would be on a hidden camra show. I seriously hope you play them at there own game RC, and make em pay somehow. I'd happily give a fiver for it. I have no respect for GM after hearing about this :(
CSedl87
11-15-2004, 12:00 AM
I know we haven't seen eye-to-eye on much, but damn I feel for you bro. Good luck, and teach the fvckers a lesson (if you can do so on your budget compared to their millions). Hope it all turns out well for you. And I'm sure you can sue for invasion of privacy, and possibly tresspassing on private property... Once again good luck.
number77
11-15-2004, 12:08 AM
but wouldn't they have to prove that your some kind of super comuputer genious to hack into their stuff? or they would have to prove that you had went to GM and took a picture of the car on a computer or something?
corvette97
11-15-2004, 12:22 AM
i hope you screw them, u have the brains to do it... :D
Let this be a lesson to you youngins.. Theres no such thing as annonymity on the internet.
*the other forum I belong too has a habit of posting satalite photos of trolls houses along with pictures of their entire family. All without commiting anything illegal.. So it doesn't suprise me.
:shock: well thats pretty scary
BADMIHAI
11-15-2004, 12:33 AM
*the other forum I belong too has a habit of posting satalite photos of trolls houses along with pictures of their entire family. All without commiting anything illegal.. So it doesn't suprise me.
Yes, but that's the CIA forum. :wink:
cho_888
11-15-2004, 12:42 AM
holly shit!!! that is way harsh, can they do that? they are being way way tight!!! i'm sure you wouldnt be the only one who has ever linked to their stuff?
sikx5
11-15-2004, 12:49 AM
far out thats harsh. GM are a bunch of tools, trying to make a global parts bin, bastards ruin cars for the spirited drivers among us!!!
DUNKiNUTS
11-15-2004, 02:44 AM
sounds like the Jr. MIB :lol: what would they do to you, fine you its public information isn't it :?:
possessed_beaver
11-15-2004, 03:27 AM
just say i did it, then they can fly to australia and i can laugh at them!
i doubt they rely have a case. yuo just found a link, why does GM rely give that much of a shit?
possessed_beaver
11-15-2004, 03:27 AM
btw, have you posted what happened on the LS1 or is it vette forums you use,
and what did they have to say?
just say i did it, then they can fly to australia and i can laugh at them!
i doubt they rely have a case. yuo just found a link, why does GM rely give that much of a shit?
I might just take you up on the offer.. ;)
That way every week a different JW member on the opposite side of the globe can be the leak.
Auzz one weak.. then the UK the next - then Brazil the next... :P
5vz-fe
11-15-2004, 03:44 AM
I too think GM has no case whatsoever on you. U didn't hotlink or claim ownership of a copyright image. All u did was post a link. Even if u were to take pictures of car that is under developement in GM's own private proving ground and post it all over the internet, that would still not be illegal unless they can prove you actually transpass into their property doing so.
U sure this is not a prank some or ur friends trying to pull? These kinda images are all over the place, why you? I am just not convinced that GM will do that.
I too think GM has no case whatsoever on you. U didn't hotlink or claim ownership of a copyright image. All u did was post a link. Even if u were to take pictures of car that is under developement in GM's own private proving ground and post it all over the internet, that would still not be illegal unless they can prove you actually transpass into their property doing so.
U sure this is not a prank some or ur friends trying to pull? These kinda images are all over the place, why you? I am just not convinced that GM will do that.
I wish it was a prank.
Why me? Because they think I am the source of the internal GM leak.
nthfinity
11-15-2004, 04:11 AM
I too think GM has no case whatsoever on you. U didn't hotlink or claim ownership of a copyright image. All u did was post a link. Even if u were to take pictures of car that is under developement in GM's own private proving ground and post it all over the internet, that would still not be illegal unless they can prove you actually transpass into their property doing so.
U sure this is not a prank some or ur friends trying to pull? These kinda images are all over the place, why you? I am just not convinced that GM will do that.
I wish it was a prank.
Why me? Because they think I am the source of the internal GM leak.
eh... you know, im not really suprised they took the time to come talk to you. im sure it is eating away at them as to who/what exactly leaked the photo... and being that you are thier closest person to that, they want to kill you in the mean time. i almost wonder if they think you were snooping in thier networked computers?
did they show thier 'folder of evidence' to you?
ill cirtainly send 5 buckos to help the legal advice you may need :?
styla21
11-15-2004, 04:15 AM
Internal GM leak? wouldn't that mean you would have to work for the company, or be associated with in some way? ...which you are not, and therefore cannot be "the source". whoops nearly went cross-eyed there, best of luck with what happens RC, i trust this becomes a painless process to get through. You are innocent and have done absolutely nothin wrong, and if it needs be can be easily proved in court. you've got my support :wink:
Dang they are pathetic! They actually spent probably 20 bucks to come visit you with a company car and talk about those millions they will spend.. yeah sure... the world would be way better than it is if ppl's biggest preoccupations would be JW's topics :P
Actually as already said, it wasn't YOU who broke the embargo.. period.. if they will really spend millions they will find out.. I agree at first it could be a pain in the ass, but I am sure they wouldn't take to long to figure out!
You have JW's community's full support
ARMAN
11-15-2004, 04:52 AM
Sounds like absolute BS from them to me :roll:
Internet should be controlled, cause its about privacy as any other privacy, and will be more controlled in close future.
If you didnt cracked in theyr system or didnt stole secure codes or something like that, I dont see no problem.
Good luck :wink:
yg60m
11-15-2004, 05:15 AM
That's incredible !! Of course you can count on a 5$ donation :wink:
Dang they are pathetic! They actually spent probably 20 bucks to come visit you with a company car and talk about those millions they will spend.. yeah sure... the world would be way better than it is if ppl's biggest preoccupations would be JW's topics :P
Actually as already said, it wasn't YOU who broke the embargo.. period.. if they will really spend millions they will find out.. I agree at first it could be a pain in the ass, but I am sure they wouldn't take to long to figure out!
You have JW's community's full support
Hey dont speak for all of us. RC deserves to be burned at the stake.....
:twisted: You know i lie....Bring them here for one week, and ill move give them a west hollywood adress to some gay sex house. That should learn them.
DMbaseball1604
11-15-2004, 05:37 AM
Dang they are pathetic! They actually spent probably 20 bucks to come visit you with a company car and talk about those millions they will spend.. yeah sure... the world would be way better than it is if ppl's biggest preoccupations would be JW's topics :P
Actually as already said, it wasn't YOU who broke the embargo.. period.. if they will really spend millions they will find out.. I agree at first it could be a pain in the ass, but I am sure they wouldn't take to long to figure out!
You have JW's community's full support
Hey dont speak for all of us. RC deserves to be burned at the stake.....
:twisted: You know i lie....Bring them here for one week, and ill move give them a west hollywood adress to some gay sex house. That should learn them.
haha that would be awesome
That really sucks RC...I'm still in awe that they would even take the time to do all that...you have my donation..and oh yeah, My friends dad is really big lawyer in Houston...in the memorial area, I'll find out what kind of lawyer he is and PM me if you need a name and what to look into it or whatever...
neilo63
11-15-2004, 07:01 AM
hahahah dont be scared thats what they want to instill into you. over here if something obsurd happens to us we just use the media and put them on current affairs shows and then we recieve calls the next day from the relevant "mob" saying we're sorry how can we fix this. Just laugh at the knobs :mrgreen:
stradale
11-15-2004, 08:41 AM
Damn!!! :shock: Different scenarios go through my mind when reading this stuff. It could be that they tried to get closer to the real leak by talking to you and trying to pressure you. I think they already know you're not who they're looking for, because it has either to be a good hacker or an employee or someone else who had access to the picture.
I sure hope they won't try and make an example out of you. I'm no expert of US law, so I don't know whether they have a case or not. Even in the case where they know they don't have a chance they could still do some damage if they wanted. I'm hoping for the best. Good luck with this and let us know what your lawyer said.
jon_s
11-15-2004, 01:34 PM
Damn!!! :shock: Different scenarios go through my mind when reading this stuff. It could be that they tried to get closer to the real leak by talking to you and trying to pressure you.
That is my opinion too. I think it is highly unlikly that they will take you to court for various reasons. I would not lose any sleep over it until the they serve a claim form and the particulars of case (or US equivalant) . Only then will you know what grounds they are taking you to court over. Then, you/your solicitor can just reply to each section with deny or prove. I would love to see them try. I would feel embarassed if I was working for GM and trying to goto court with such a week case. I hate it when big companies try to apply pressure to 'small' people.
What did they say their next course of action was? I would not bother spending money on a solicitor yet.
Damn!!! :shock: Different scenarios go through my mind when reading this stuff. It could be that they tried to get closer to the real leak by talking to you and trying to pressure you.
That is my opinion too. I think it is highly unlikly that they will take you to court for various reasons. I would not lose any sleep over it until the they serve a claim form and the particulars of case (or US equivalant) . Only then will you know what grounds they are taking you to court over. Then, you/your solicitor can just reply to each section with deny or prove. I would love to see them try. I would feel embarassed if I was working for GM and trying to goto court with such a week case. I hate it when big companies try to apply pressure to 'small' people.
What did they say their next course of action was? I would not bother spending money on a solicitor yet.
Their parting words were: "See you in court" - what ever that means. I am not as worried as I am "violated" that GM has the gall to send their goons to my front door.
A registered letter is one thing, an email is another - but the sheer audacity of sending PI's in to interogate is quite another.. ;)
Vansquish
11-15-2004, 02:05 PM
Indeed...I don't think they've got a very much of a case on the whole against you as the "source" of the leak, as I think it'll be fairly easy to prove that you weren't the originator of the photo. The worst thing they could do is probably subpoena you and your computer. If that's the case then whatever is on your HD is public domain for the case, as well as any logs with respect to what posts you made where and when they occurred. The other issue is that once they find out where the photo came from then it's possible they might try and say you're an accomplice because without a doubt, you did post the photo and help it spread across the internet. However, with that in mind, they've got an awful lot of us to sue if that's their line of reasoning.
As for US law regarding internet privelages, it's pretty easy to come by people's information from their ISP. All that has to be done so far as I know is that someone has to fill out a simple form, and send it to the ISP as well as to some lower court in order to make it "legal". The way things work in my experience is that the ISP doesn't even bother to make sure it's fully legal and will hand out info with reckless abandon. I wish there was more privacy these days.....
jon_s
11-15-2004, 02:05 PM
I know the US system is different from the UK, but the words see you in court are probably the most laughable they could have used. Even if they do serve a claim form, there is no gaurantee that it will end in court, so I don't know what plant they thought they were on.
Have a fish about, I am sure you can come up with a counter claim if the situation arrises.
I know the US system is different from the UK, but the words see you in court are probably the most laughable they could have used. Even if they do serve a claim form, there is no gaurantee that it will end in court, so I don't know what plant they thought they were on.
Have a fish about, I am sure you can come up with a counter claim if the situation arrises.
As I have said - the main thing is that they were trying to solicit some response from me... exactly what I am not sure of.
Either way - I am sure about htis time they are wondering just how meritous their ill-conceived plan was.
I mean - exactly what sort of response did they expect to get knocking on someones door at 6:30 on a Sunday evening.
I guess they figured it was an episode of Miami vice or something. :lol:
jon_s
11-15-2004, 02:19 PM
Well, I hope you gave them a response they won't forget :wink:
bmwmpower
11-15-2004, 02:28 PM
in USA is freedom, so Fuck off GM :twisted:
BADMIHAI
11-15-2004, 03:16 PM
in USA is freedom, so Fuck off GM :twisted:
Well..there's the problem. You can't have absolute freedom because that means anarchy.
Bring them here for one week, and ill move give them a west hollywood adress to some gay sex house. That should learn them.
I find it more scary that you know places like that, than some goons from GM coming to RC`s porch talking crap.......
I hope it turns out well for you RC, after all you live in the greatest nation in the world where freedom is everything and the great legal system will probably help you...... :P :wink:
seriously I dont think they can do much about it, but I hope you get out in the clear.... :D
good luck and keep us updated......
you cant walk down hollywood without getting flyers, or ads, or even picking up the LA Express.
Vansquish
11-15-2004, 03:35 PM
[quote=blah]Bring them here for one week, and ill move give them a west hollywood adress to some gay sex house. That should learn them.
I find it more scary that you know places like that, than some goons from GM coming to RC`s porch talking crap.......
I hope it turns out well for you RC, after all you live in the greatest nation in the world where freedom is everything and the great legal system will probably help you...... :P :wink:
seriously I dont think they can do much about it, but I hope you get out in the clear.... :D
good luck and keep us updated......[/quote
you cant walk down hollywood without getting flyers, or ads, or even picking up the LA Express.
You make it sound like the LA Express is some new STD.
bmwmpower
11-15-2004, 03:43 PM
in USA is freedom, so Fuck off GM :twisted:
Well..there's the problem. You can't have absolute freedom because that means anarchy.
i know
Darkel
11-15-2004, 04:19 PM
Incredible story :shock:
It seems to be so easy to find someone's name & adress, be careful, big brother is everywhere :wink:
[quote=blah]Bring them here for one week, and ill move give them a west hollywood adress to some gay sex house. That should learn them.
I find it more scary that you know places like that, than some goons from GM coming to RC`s porch talking crap.......
I hope it turns out well for you RC, after all you live in the greatest nation in the world where freedom is everything and the great legal system will probably help you...... :P :wink:
seriously I dont think they can do much about it, but I hope you get out in the clear.... :D
good luck and keep us updated......[/quote
you cant walk down hollywood without getting flyers, or ads, or even picking up the LA Express.
You make it sound like the LA Express is some new STD.
its a quick way to get one :lol:
abbor
11-15-2004, 06:57 PM
Can't believe it..
Hope it turns out allright... And keep updating..
Max Power
11-15-2004, 08:23 PM
I figure this is all lies but very entertaining none the least.......if only u had a picture of these goons
SPEEDKILLAR
11-15-2004, 09:02 PM
LMAO, so stupid, didn't they saw the Z06 outside...probably mad 'cause you didn't bought the new one....
I would have invited them and knock'em down and call somebody to have fun...you know...pulp fiction style :twisted: :lol:
Well RC, you maybe a dickhead in my book, but I still wish you the best of luck and you can count on my 5 EURO :D
you know there only pissed cuz you dont like the new C6.
Ill Dottore
11-15-2004, 11:10 PM
That's BS! GM will never use millions for a stupid pic!
:fist:
Cheers!
nurbrun
11-15-2004, 11:38 PM
man they got shit. those pics are proboly all over the internet from different people linking them why would they pic on you? a corvette owner to!
how did they get your home adress(thats what scares me!)
Schwalbe
11-16-2004, 12:49 AM
Already that I had bitterness against GM Corp to have closed in 2002 the F-body assembly plant of Ste-Therese , just north of Montréal. Now, the litigation of RC45 with GM comes to be added with my list of frustration against GM corp. :x
I find ridiculous their action against you RC45. Hello GM ???? RC45 is a Corvette owner. :roll: You can fortunately count on JW we are with you. :wink:
Now when I hear: GM sales down 4.7% in October 2004, I laugh of them. :lol:
saadie
11-16-2004, 12:50 AM
tracing is easy .... all ya need is the IP .....
anywayz .... IMO GM is just playing ya arround .... hows a pic gonna do any harm .. its not like you got a pic of GM's general manager fucking his secretary on his work desk ...
play incincible .. they are trying to make a million outta you .... you make 2 millions outta them and donnate 5 bucks to all of us ... :twisted: :twisted:
.... you make 2 millions outta them and donnate 5 bucks to all of us ... :twisted: :twisted:
Deal... :)
saadie
11-16-2004, 01:06 AM
YAY i'll be 5$ richer :twisted: :twisted:
1000 th post 8) 8) atlast
YAY i'll be 5$ richer :twisted: :twisted:
1000 th post 8) 8) atlast
It's a SIGN!!!! ;) :P
saadie
11-16-2004, 01:12 AM
i hope it works out then .... :P :P
anywayz ... keep us updated :D
ZfrkS62
11-16-2004, 01:13 AM
FEH!! RC will never hear from the Goon Squad again. Its all a scam being put on by Corporate America to enforce the illusion that the average Joe is under their thumb...unfortunatley they picked on the wrong Joe this time :wink: :P :D :fist:
unionamc
11-16-2004, 01:27 AM
Hmmm. Make sure you're not being scammed. It may seem obvious who you're dealing with but it may also not be who you think you're dealing with. Maybe you can try also try this defense.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/10/28/hacker.defense.reut/index.html
There were these hackers that basically claimed that they shouldn't be prosecuted because there is no way to tell that they were the actual hackers. Pretty much blamed everything on the computer. Just a thought.
I hope everything works out. Good luck.
CMonakar
11-16-2004, 01:33 AM
You should track them down, knock on their door at 6:30 AM next Sunday, and ask them to use their toilet so you can show them what you think of their threats.
when they were walkin off you shoulda shouted 'hey boys, bring a spare set of clothes to court, cos i'm gonna countersue the pants off you!!' :twisted:
that'll teach the bastards!! i hope u get them good R.C., teach those big guns not to mess around with the little guy! :x
5vz-fe
11-16-2004, 02:50 AM
I wonder if BMW dig up the guy who leaked out the entire new 3 series bouchure. :?:
ZfrkS62
11-16-2004, 04:48 AM
that could have been any employee with access to Centernet (online resource center for sales and service) it had been posted on the Centernet site about 2 weeks ago, but it was in german.
i don't think BMW really cares all that much since their cars are always spotted on the NS. Once the spy covers are removed, it's pretty much the final product. They might clean up a line here or there but what you see in the vidz and pic from the NS is baisically what you're going to get.
When the Z4 came out, all the US training centers got 1 or 2 of them as trainers but since they were pre-production and hadn't been officially unveiled (i got to work on the SMG and 6spd while i was in training, both were prepro and we had a problem getting parts AND accurate wiring diagrams) It hadn't been spotted in testing without it's covers so BMW was realy serious about making them keep ther cars covered at all times when they were parked outside. but once the pics came out, the covers no longer had to be put on.
possessed_beaver
11-16-2004, 09:43 AM
i think GM should just stick to giving cars away on operah and not internet leaks!
it's not like it's going to cause the loss of sales, or there compeditors are going to get inside to make better cars.. there compeditors alredy make better cars :twisted:
coombsie66
11-16-2004, 03:11 PM
LOL, i cant believe the cheek of GM to do this, as you said RC an Email, a Headed Letter > fair enuff, but a couple of goons. That is just fucking ridiculous. I hope you give em what they deserve. And IMO the pictures in question could be seen as 'artists impressions' maybee that someone knocked up after seeing the spy shots of the C6 in its disguise. Its not as if its a photo!?
Just pathetic on their part.
Best of luck RC, from what ive read over the years they chose one of the worst people on the internet to argue with! :P :wink:
detsan
11-16-2004, 08:21 PM
Sounds like they are too lazy to look at their own organisation for the person who leaked it and are looking for a scapegoat.
Should have said " see that car gumby? I am an valued member of an international organisation and do everything to uphold and promote your company.
I have interest in all things corvette, so if this picture was on the internet then why should I not have it?
I have not signed your embargo and therefore have no legal obligation in relation to possession/distribution of said image.
Now get the hell off my property you magnum pi wannabe motherf**kers!"
Best wishes and don't lose too much sleep, think they are just fishing for info/leads, trying to "scare" you into revealing your source.
SilviaEvo
11-16-2004, 09:21 PM
good job saadie keep on posting.
Well RC sue teh fuck out of them then buy a Ferrari and laugh at them!
styla21
11-16-2004, 09:29 PM
good job saadie keep on posting.
Well RC sue teh fuck out of them then buy a Ferrari and laugh at them!
Amen :D
mrpushrod
11-16-2004, 10:22 PM
Wow, I missed a lot in the past few days! Good luck with whatever happens with GM!
possessed_beaver
11-17-2004, 02:47 AM
Wow, I missed a lot in the past few days! Good luck with whatever happens with GM!
see page one..
saadie
11-17-2004, 04:47 AM
good job saadie keep on posting.
Well RC sue teh fuck out of them then buy a Ferrari and laugh at them!
thx :D and
amen :lol:
FPVPSI
11-17-2004, 05:57 AM
Mate...Good luck with the hole "Case" im sure they can't pin you for shit...for the simple fact you done nothing wrong...all you done was post a pic that you "Found" on the net... :shock: ...Fukk this is done in it's millions every day on the internet don't see why this has effected GM as much as it has...All shit aside, what harm has this caused GM? Free exposure, free advertising...almost a plus for them... :wink:
Well what ever happens, happens good luck...Were behind you... 8)
vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.