Sportbilen: BMW M3 CSL Schnitzer vs Porsche 911 GT3 RS

[Just_me]

I found it on rs6.com, only 3 pages scanned out of 33 pages.
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?s=baca68fdbd91e4c0a5b5fce4528fc84f&threadid=5577&perpage=17&pagenumber=1

This is whats writen in the end of 3 pic.

#When the laps was over and the test computer checked of its content, its showed that the imposibel had happend. The King(GT3 RS) is beaten on its on turf. And its not done by any small marginal, its done by 11 seconds. 14 sec better than a standard CSL erlier did#

(sport auto time stockGT3 RS 7. 47/ stock CSL 7.50)

"Mattias Ekblom time GT3 RS 7.40 stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa.

"Mattias Ekblom time OCL Brorssons CSL 7.36. Note stock engine, uppgraded breakes, chassi and 36kg of the car. Michelin Sport Cup R tires.


Nurnburgring:
M3 CSL : 7.36 min
GT3 RS : 7.40 min

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[yg60m]

I can't believe the CSL time of 7:36, that's close to the CGT time :?:
But maybe with track tyres and upgraded brakes ...

[Just_me]

I can't believe the CSL time of 7:36, that's close to the CGT time :?:
But maybe with track tyres and upgraded brakes ...

There is also a CSL "loaded" with supercharger and 480hp doing 7.30 min

But I must say, 7.36 min with only 360hp, impressive !!!

[Just_me]

Well... the M3 CSL have a 50/50 weight distribution, is light, and is fast... so that time is not that surprising... but as you see in the pic... in this case it has a rollcage so I assume it also have some more tricks to make it even faster.

well GT3 RS also got a cage and R-tires and shouldnt be compared with regular GT3.
I also think GT3 RS has lower weight than CSL, GT# RS also got better acceleratation.

But what surprised me more, is that you can buy a CSL or a GT3 RS for half the price compare to CGT. If you only want a trackcar I go with a CSL or a GT3. But if I hade the money for a CGT it would be my choice anyway :wink:

[cooperluke]

I like the CSL a lot, but that time is to fast ... :? :?

[Just_me]

I like the CSL a lot, but that time is to fast ... :? :?

fast but true, there is no reason to lie about it.
Put R-tires and do some modifications on CGT and it will be even faster.

[jamberl]

I like the CSL a lot, but that time is to fast ... :? :?

fast but true, there is no reason to lie about it.
Put R-tires and do some modifications on CGT and it will be even faster.


Yeah, alot of it is to do with tires. The porsche racing cars for the 24 hour races do 7:01 laps of the 'ring' :shock: Shows what racing tyres and suspension tuning can do.
Thats why a stock CSL is faster than a stock GT3, despite being heavier: the stock CSL basically has cut slicks, the stock GT3 has road tires.

[chest3r]

It's really impressive how this CSL beat the GT3 RS time :o :o :shock: :shock: And the stock CSL also did a time near the GT3. Like Jeremy would say: What a car ...... :o :o

I already loved the CSL but I'm loving it more and more each time I see it in action :D

[styla21]

So does this prove that LOADED guys claim of 7: 30 may infact be possible - seeing it has similar weight and 100hp more? :P :wink:

[Just_me]

[quote=cooperluke]I like the CSL a lot, but that time is to fast ... :? :?

, the stock GT3 has road tires.

yes GT3 has roadtires but GT3 RS (which is the car in the test) dont have it. It got R-tires too but the R-tires on the CSL is the best R-tires at the moment on the market.

[Just_me]

[quote=cooperluke]I like the CSL a lot, but that time is to fast ... :? :?

, the stock GT3 has road tires.

yes GT3 has roadtires but GT3 RS (which is the car in the test) dont have it. It got R-tires too but the R-tires on the CSL is the best R-tires at the moment on the market.

[kksh]

So there goes the argument we had before about the CSL doing a 7:30 lap or not in the other section. It's amazing how fast the CSL is. Way to go BMW!!! Ultimate stealth car. My kind of car. I'll take the Bimmer over the Prosche anyday. Great test.

[DMbaseball1604]

Pretty sure if you put the same tires on the GT3 RS..it would be a completely different story....

[schnell318]

I´m really impressed, I mean the RS is not your average car...and I think it is a fair test, both with R tires and no forced induction.

GT3 should be compared to CSL, GT3 RS being even more extreme should be compared to a tuned CSL since BMW don´t offer something more radical.

Way to go BMW!!!

[acs power]

Does anyone have this article because the links to the pages don't work?

[Vansquish]

Impressive on the part of the CSL, but a little disheartening considering the GT3 RS is really intended to be at home on the Ring and it lost. I think if I had to choose between the two it'd still be the Porsche in my garage, if only for the fact that it has a real gearchange.

[ferrarif1fan89]

Does anyone have this article because the links to the pages don't work?

finding the same problem. can somebody please host these articles?

[acs power]

Incredible! I think this would be great article but seems nobody have saved it... :(