New S Class spy pics!!

[philios55]

http://www.autospies.com/images/10-28/sclass/1.jpg
http://www.autospies.com/images/10-28/sclass/2.jpg

[Evo]

What is that guy pointing at ?? :lol:

Interior pix needed..

[Stikz]

What is that guy pointing at ??

looks like he's pointing at the guy taking the pics. By the way, doesn't the back end look like a Bimmer back end? I'm talking about the decklid on the trunk.

[Wutputt]

Some more spy pics:

http://www.carfreaks.net/albums/ringtesting04/IMG_0351.jpg
(no they didn't put the suspension in the highest position, the ring just has a bump there ;))

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0032.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0033.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0034.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0035.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0036.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0037.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0038.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0039.sized.jpg

http://fiat.mer.nu/albums/album08/IMG_0040.sized.jpg

Source: Car Spy Shots

[chest3r]

The first photo with the guy pointing to the camera is really good :mrgreen:

BTW I like this car. I've already seen some photoshop's very close to the lines of this cars and I liked. Nothing really new, just an evolution :)

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Yep, an amazing car, the king of luxery saloon, bye bye 7 :lol:

thnks for the pics guys.

[DeMoN]

Its so funny how the cover it up, as we couldnt guess what it will look like.. YES LIKE EVERY OTHER MERC!!!!

thats why I hate Mercs so much, they look too goddamn same to the other.

[acs power]

The first photo with the guy pointing to the camera is really good


Yep, I shows everything they're talking about :)


Yep, an amazing car, the king of luxery saloon, bye bye 7


To me the real battle will be against A8

[bmagni]

i like it, the front more than the rear...
i just think the facelifted 7 series will look better...

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Its so funny how the cover it up, as we couldnt guess what it will look like.. YES LIKE EVERY OTHER MERC!!!!

thats why I hate Mercs so much, they look too goddamn same to the other.


:x :x :x


I do not agree...



:wink:

[SPEEDKILLAR]

The first photo with the guy pointing to the camera is really good


Yep, I shows everything they're talking about :)


Yep, an amazing car, the king of luxery saloon, bye bye 7


To me the real battle will be against A8


Wich th A8 will loose badly of course.

[is64fun]

the boot is like a 7 series style, but seem not as bad as it is in 7 series. and the general shape is like a longer versin of a cls

[ae86_16v]

Ehh. . .

[blah]

the boot is like a 7 series style, but seem not as bad as it is in 7 series. and the general shape is like a longer versin of a cls


it wont look like a 7 series though, more rounded like a Maybach. This is suppose to be a baby bach. :P

Anyways the problem with the current S-Class, is that its to plain, it doesnt stand out like the 7 series does. when im buying a 70-120 grand luxury sedan i expect some sticking out.

[Evo]

http://www.carfreaks.net/albums/ringtesting04/IMG_0351.jpg

The new ML ladies and Gentlemen :mrgreen: That's a really bad bump if you ask me..

If you ask me it still looks like the old S-Class.. Not much radical changes.. and I like that..

[yg60m]

IMO it will rule again, it promise to be as great as the existing one :D

[acs power]

Wich th A8 will loose badly of course.


I don't think so. A possible S8 would rule.

[sndr]

I'll hope that it doesn't looks to much like an cheap Maybach rip-off

[SilviaEvo]

wow not bad i would defineatly choose it over any other saloon. except a Quttroporte

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Wich th A8 will loose badly of course.


I don't think so. A possible S8 would rule.


And a probably S 65 AMG would RULE the S8.

[Just_me]

New S-class
http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v66/mb_bmw/i-drive.jpg

7-series
http://www.bmwworld.com/pics/7er/5484_832.jpg

[SPEED_DEMON82]

Looks good to me. As always i expect it to have some amazing gizmos as it has been doing ever since. Looks good but sad to see that after the Maybach, Merc is modelling their cars after it.

Its so funny how the cover it up, as we couldnt guess what it will look like.. YES LIKE EVERY OTHER MERC!!!!

thats why I hate Mercs so much, they look too goddamn same to the other.

So do u hate Porsche's then??? :P

[SPEEDKILLAR]

New S-class
http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v66/mb_bmw/i-drive.jpg

7-series
http://www.bmwworld.com/pics/7er/5484_832.jpg

I don't know what you are trying to prove, but that S is a testcar dude :roll:

Far from the real interior...

[yg60m]

He just wanted to show how close both will be close in design :wink: And he's right, the new S Class will have its own i-drive.

[Wutputt]

That interior spy pic is quite old. Not sure if it will look like this. It also could be to fool some scoop hunters, cause this was one of the first spy shots of the new S class and the similarities are too big. Under normal circumstances interior spy shots are 'taken' later in the development of the car.

I'm not saying this is 100% sure not the interior of the new S class. I just have my doubts about this interior also being the interior of the production version of the new S class.

[testdrivem3]

have to wait they take off the cover!

[Wutputt]

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20MERCEDES%20Classe%20S%20tp%20photo%200 1.JPG

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20MERCEDES%20Classe%20S%20tp%20photo%200 2.JPG

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20MERCEDES%20Classe%20S%20tp%20photo%200 3.JPG

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20MERCEDES%20Classe%20S%20tp%20photo%200 4.JPG

http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20MERCEDES%20Classe%20S%20tp%20photo%200 5.JPG

[Wutputt]

Some new spy pics of the W221 S-class. I've also some info: from what I heard it will have a pedestrian airbag, which is designed to improve the new S-classes pedestrian safety.

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/8049/10oi.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=10oi.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/4418/26ok.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=26ok.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/5346/30yg.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=30yg.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/4854/45bc.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=45bc.jpg)

source: AutoSpies / Brenda Priddy

[|Nuno|]

from what I heard it will have a pedestrian airbag, which is designed to improve the new S-classes pedestrian safety.

Ok, this whole "pedestrian safety" stuff is going too far... Just watch were you're going, damnit!!

[JiggaStyles09]

Some new spy pics of the W221 S-class. I've also some info: from what I heard it will have a pedestrian airbag, which is designed to improve the new S-classes pedestrian safety.

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/8049/10oi.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=10oi.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/4418/26ok.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=26ok.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/5346/30yg.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=30yg.jpg) http://img18.exs.cx/img18/4854/45bc.th.jpg (http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=45bc.jpg)

source: AutoSpies / Brenda Priddy

how exactly does a pedestrian airbag work....i have never heard of such a thing :?

[Sir_GT]

I'm not a fan of any big car except the Quattroporte.

Everything else out there lacks a complete sense of style or presence. They all look like generic big cars, but aren't really worth the money.

Gimme a black, 6L, V12 Engined, white leather Quattroporte any day.

[JoeHahn]

Wich th A8 will loose badly of course.


I don't think so. A possible S8 would rule.


And a probably S 65 AMG would RULE the S8.

and along comes the RS8 and Mercedes cant even win their own horsepower war. Apart from Mercedes horrible build quality I think I'd have an E class over an S.

[chest3r]

I'm tired of seeing the "old" model :x

"....Mercedes horrible build quality..." ?!?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol: What car do you drive ??? A Maybach ? A Bentley ? Or a Rolls Royce ?? :mrgreen:

[Sir_GT]

New S-class
http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v66/mb_bmw/i-drive.jpg

7-series
http://www.bmwworld.com/pics/7er/5484_832.jpg

I don't know what you are trying to prove, but that S is a testcar dude :roll:

Far from the real interior...

He was trying to show that aside from the bootlid, Mercedes also ripped off BMW's interior... including iDrive.

[Sir_GT]

I'm tired of seeing the "old" model :x

"....Mercedes horrible build quality..." ?!?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol: What car do you drive ??? A Maybach ? A Bentley ? Or a Rolls Royce ?? :mrgreen:

Well... with the M-class being voted the worst car in Britain by it's owners, and the C-class not being that far off, which is absolutely amazing because that means that italian and french cars on average were better put together, that means that you can drive pretty much anything, and still get away with saying "Mercedes horrible build quality."

I mean, let's face it. Mercedes simply isn't the brand that they used to be. Profits during the last quarter of 2004 were about £12M, and they expect to swing into losses in 2005, whereas BMW and Audi sales are soaring... in which both brands are surpassing their previous sales records.

The proof is in the pudding as they say.

[blah]

I'm not a fan of any big car except the Quattroporte.

Everything else out there lacks a complete sense of style or presence. They all look like generic big cars, but aren't really worth the money.

Gimme a black, 6L, V12 Engined, white leather Quattroporte any day.

I dont know what quattroporte you are buying. Have fun finding one with a V12.

Also RS8<<<<<S600 alone. The new AMGs and the new standard V8s will be enough to put AUDI back in its place. The only real threat to the S-Class is the 7 series.

[Sir_GT]

I'm not a fan of any big car except the Quattroporte.

Everything else out there lacks a complete sense of style or presence. They all look like generic big cars, but aren't really worth the money.

Gimme a black, 6L, V12 Engined, white leather Quattroporte any day.

I dont know what quattroporte you are buying. Have fun finding one with a V12.


Ah. At the moment, you cannot find one, but in a few months, you will.

See here. (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=213702&EL_ID=3115038&ST=fromcurrentresults)

Here's the full article:


Ferrari V12 power for Quattroporte

Maserati is planning to add a rapid 5.7-litre V12 Quattroporte to its line-up, according to reliable sources within the Italian car maker. The plush new Maserati flagship is aimed at challenging high-end luxury saloon rivals such as the Audi A8 W12, BMW 760i and Mercedes-Benz S600.

Power for the range-topping Quattroporte is said to come from a lightly reworked version of parent company Ferrari’s 5.7-litre V12 engine from the 612 Scaglietti. In the big Ferrari coupé, the 65-degree unit develops 540bhp at 7200rpm and 434lb ft of torque at 5250rpm. However, Maserati is rumoured to be tweaking the engine to bolster its low-end grunt and make it more suitable for the luxurious Quattroporte.

As well as the new V12, Maserati is also said to be in negotiations with Volkswagen for the supply of the German car maker’s highly lauded 5.0-litre V10 turbodiesel for its upmarket saloon, although officials say it is not a particular priority. The rear-wheel-drive Quattroporte is currently offered with a 4.2-litre V8 engine producing 400bhp and 333lb ft of torque.

It is not known whether the new V12 will head into other Maserati models, but with a new Coupé and Spyder planned for early 2006 the chances of the engine spreading across the range look strong.

Together with the V12 engine for the Quattroporte, Maserati is also co-operating with an outside supplier on a new automatic gearbox to be offered alongside the existing Cambiocorsa automated-manual ’box. Maserati sees the new gearbox as the key to increasing sales, particularly in the North American market, though it is remaining tight-lipped on whether it is a traditional torque-converter unit rather than a more contemporary dual-clutch set-up

Sounds good eh? ;)

[Wutputt]

from what I heard it will have a pedestrian airbag, which is designed to improve the new S-classes pedestrian safety.

Ok, this whole "pedestrian safety" stuff is going too far... Just watch were you're going, damnit!!

I completely agree.



how exactly does a pedestrian airbag work....i have never heard of such a thing :?
It's hidden behind the grill or in the bonnet. When sensors detect the car hits an object that's possible a person, it will deploy this airbag so the person’s head won't bang onto the bonnet but will hit the airbag. But there is a 'big' possibilty ;)

I don't know that much more about it. And it's still a rumour that the W221 will be equiped with it

[mv]

It eventually seems Autobild was actually pretty close :

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/45292.jpg

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/41672.jpg

And these were made before the barely disguised mules appeared.

[blah]

I'm not a fan of any big car except the Quattroporte.

Everything else out there lacks a complete sense of style or presence. They all look like generic big cars, but aren't really worth the money.

Gimme a black, 6L, V12 Engined, white leather Quattroporte any day.

I dont know what quattroporte you are buying. Have fun finding one with a V12.


Ah. At the moment, you cannot find one, but in a few months, you will.

See here. (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=213702&EL_ID=3115038&ST=fromcurrentresults)

Here's the full article:


Ferrari V12 power for Quattroporte

Maserati is planning to add a rapid 5.7-litre V12 Quattroporte to its line-up, according to reliable sources within the Italian car maker. The plush new Maserati flagship is aimed at challenging high-end luxury saloon rivals such as the Audi A8 W12, BMW 760i and Mercedes-Benz S600.

Power for the range-topping Quattroporte is said to come from a lightly reworked version of parent company Ferrari’s 5.7-litre V12 engine from the 612 Scaglietti. In the big Ferrari coupé, the 65-degree unit develops 540bhp at 7200rpm and 434lb ft of torque at 5250rpm. However, Maserati is rumoured to be tweaking the engine to bolster its low-end grunt and make it more suitable for the luxurious Quattroporte.

As well as the new V12, Maserati is also said to be in negotiations with Volkswagen for the supply of the German car maker’s highly lauded 5.0-litre V10 turbodiesel for its upmarket saloon, although officials say it is not a particular priority. The rear-wheel-drive Quattroporte is currently offered with a 4.2-litre V8 engine producing 400bhp and 333lb ft of torque.

It is not known whether the new V12 will head into other Maserati models, but with a new Coupé and Spyder planned for early 2006 the chances of the engine spreading across the range look strong.

Together with the V12 engine for the Quattroporte, Maserati is also co-operating with an outside supplier on a new automatic gearbox to be offered alongside the existing Cambiocorsa automated-manual ’box. Maserati sees the new gearbox as the key to increasing sales, particularly in the North American market, though it is remaining tight-lipped on whether it is a traditional torque-converter unit rather than a more contemporary dual-clutch set-up

Sounds good eh? ;)

Now if the V8s are still sold out for 1 more year think bout the v12s.

Ive been upclose with the quattroporte and i didnt really like it that much. It looked like it was trying to be to many things like james said on topgear. Ill take a 7 or an S class anyday. :P

[Sir_GT]

I'm not a fan of any big car except the Quattroporte.

Everything else out there lacks a complete sense of style or presence. They all look like generic big cars, but aren't really worth the money.

Gimme a black, 6L, V12 Engined, white leather Quattroporte any day.

I dont know what quattroporte you are buying. Have fun finding one with a V12.


Ah. At the moment, you cannot find one, but in a few months, you will.

See here. (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=213702&EL_ID=3115038&ST=fromcurrentresults)

Here's the full article:


Ferrari V12 power for Quattroporte

Maserati is planning to add a rapid 5.7-litre V12 Quattroporte to its line-up, according to reliable sources within the Italian car maker. The plush new Maserati flagship is aimed at challenging high-end luxury saloon rivals such as the Audi A8 W12, BMW 760i and Mercedes-Benz S600.

Power for the range-topping Quattroporte is said to come from a lightly reworked version of parent company Ferrari’s 5.7-litre V12 engine from the 612 Scaglietti. In the big Ferrari coupé, the 65-degree unit develops 540bhp at 7200rpm and 434lb ft of torque at 5250rpm. However, Maserati is rumoured to be tweaking the engine to bolster its low-end grunt and make it more suitable for the luxurious Quattroporte.

As well as the new V12, Maserati is also said to be in negotiations with Volkswagen for the supply of the German car maker’s highly lauded 5.0-litre V10 turbodiesel for its upmarket saloon, although officials say it is not a particular priority. The rear-wheel-drive Quattroporte is currently offered with a 4.2-litre V8 engine producing 400bhp and 333lb ft of torque.

It is not known whether the new V12 will head into other Maserati models, but with a new Coupé and Spyder planned for early 2006 the chances of the engine spreading across the range look strong.

Together with the V12 engine for the Quattroporte, Maserati is also co-operating with an outside supplier on a new automatic gearbox to be offered alongside the existing Cambiocorsa automated-manual ’box. Maserati sees the new gearbox as the key to increasing sales, particularly in the North American market, though it is remaining tight-lipped on whether it is a traditional torque-converter unit rather than a more contemporary dual-clutch set-up

Sounds good eh? ;)

Now if the V8s are still sold out for 1 more year think bout the v12s.

Ive been upclose with the quattroporte and i didnt really like it that much. It looked like it was trying to be to many things like james said on topgear. Ill take a 7 or an S class anyday. :P

Errr... I'll respect your take on it, but I really wouldn't hang on anything James says on Top Gear. I've unwittingly followed his career, and although he has witty opinions on a lot of things, one of the subjects his knowledge dims is in fact, automobiles.

[Zonda^]

looks like the back is inspired by maybach

[raphaelws]

What is that guy pointing at ??


LOOK!!! a SPY!! ehehe

[ferrarif1fan89]

my god, i like it a lot!

[Sir_GT]

It's boring. No appeal.

CLS = best looking Merc saloon.

[JiggaStyles09]

It's hidden behind the grill or in the bonnet. When sensors detect the car hits an object that's possible a person, it will deploy this airbag so the person’s head won't bang onto the bonnet but will hit the airbag. But there is a 'big' possibilty

I don't know that much more about it. And it's still a rumour that the W221 will be equiped with it


hmmm sounds odd but interesting.

from these new spy pics i like the front of the car, looks like a good evolution while still keeping the traditional look of the S-class. the back as im sure has been mentioned looks maybachish. cant wait to see the official pics.

[blah]

the bottom part where the fogs are looks like our C-Class.

[gobs3z]

Well i can say i've seen one in person here in Chicago, i've got the pic on my camera phone but it won't let me send it(POS). I think they were going to the dealers to show them, i dunno. But it wasn't bad looking. There were about six camo'd and non camo'd merc's all driving to the same place on the highway, first time i've ever seen a preproduction car on the road, especially in chicago.

[philios55]

^Nice new pics dani!!!

[Sir_GT]

http://img199.echo.cx/img199/3784/mbs6ot5jc.jpg

If it looks like this, then yes, it is nice... but the CLS still has more sex appeal. I have a feeling the S will date quickly, just like the new M class, especially since it's expected to stay that way for the next 7-10 years.

[Dubai]

It looks like they lifted the side mirrors from the new CSL... So, I guess the chase is new! Duuh! :lol:

[Sir_GT]

Well, you can't compare the CLS with the new S-Klasse... the CLS is a 4-door coupe, it's more like a CL with a couple more doors... the rear seats are not very confortable, well... they ARE confortable, but not as in the S-Klasse. This is just like a baby Maybach... which I think it's good!

Errrr... you can actually. Whatever the packaging/limitations that CLS has, it still has sex appeal. So does the Maserati Quattroporte. I can see that they're going for a mini-Maybach approach... which I don't think is a good idea (It'll cheapen the Maybach... imagine the 7 series looking like the Phantom? It'll cheapen the Phantom), because you can make a car look grand and ooze with style, without having to copy one of your own designs.

Again, the Quattroporte is a perfect example. It's like an S-class, except it's not stodgy... it's actually bloody handsome, and it shows that you've got taste.

I'm not saying that the upcoming S is ugly... far from it... I just think they've could've done better, and because they didn't, I can imagine the upcoming one to date rather quickly.

[philios55]

Some more W221 S Class pics:
http://img179.echo.cx/img179/5196/april19nb.th.jpg (http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=april19nb.jpg)http://img165.echo.cx/img165/9800/april1a4jy.th.jpg (http://img165.echo.cx/my.php?image=april1a4jy.jpg)

[cho_888]

wow that must have been a high impact crash because those mercs are surposed to be really safe.

[Ghostbat]

wow that must have been a high impact crash because those mercs are surposed to be really safe.

Since the driver of the Ford died it's a qualified guess that it was a severe crash.. The cabin of the Merc looks fairly intact..

[Sir_GT]

Built Ford tough eh?

...and Clarkson wonders why people would rather pay up for a German car.

[pimrusis]

Built Ford tough eh?

...and Clarkson wonders why people would rather pay up for a German car.

You can't really say that. If a BMW 1-series hit my mom's car, which is basically a Ford Crown Victoria the one series would be pretty messed up as well. You need to know the specifics of the crash before you post criticism.

[blah]

Built Ford tough eh?

...and Clarkson wonders why people would rather pay up for a German car.

Ok go hit a F150 or F Series and we will see who is the winner. Hell hit a Grand Marquis, or Crown Vic. The S-Class weighs what 4500 lbs? That ford probably weighs 3400, or even less. The S-Class is lucky it didnt hit a COnti GT.

[Sir_GT]

^^^ The differences between a German CAR and a PICKUP TRUCK are very different. The difference between a 1-series (5 star NCAP) and a Ford car (What's an NCAP?) would be very different as well.

There's a greater likelyhood you would live through an accident if you were in a 1-series, whereas a Ford car wouldn't have the necessary crumple structure to absorb a solid impact.

American cars are shit. Nothing but old dinosaurs built using stoneage technology, except dressed in modern drag. They're built to make a profit, not to protect the occupant. I've seen videos where American SUVs literally disintegrate during crash tests, whereas European cars (on average) only fold up to the beginning of the A-pillar.

[Ghostbat]

^^^ The differences between a German CAR and a PICKUP TRUCK are very different. The difference between a 1-series (5 star NCAP) and a Ford car (What's an NCAP?) would be very different as well.

There's a greater likelyhood you would live through an accident if you were in a 1-series, whereas a Ford car wouldn't have the necessary crumple structure to absorb a solid impact.

American cars are shit. Nothing but old dinosaurs built using stoneage technology, except dressed in modern drag. They're built to make a profit, not to protect the occupant. I've seen videos where American SUVs literally disintegrate during crash tests, whereas European cars (on average) only fold up to the beginning of the A-pillar.

I seccond that! But I promise that you've hurt some peoples feelings :roll:

[Sir_GT]

^^^ Maybe so, but I'm simply calling it like it is. I'm saddened by the accident and knowing some poor chap lost his life in it, but I can't help but think that he would've probably survived if he was in a better built car.

IIRC, 5th Gear did a crash test episode where they pitted a very small car (not sure if it was the Smart car or the A-class) against a very big car (I think it was the S-class), and the small car still came out pretty much intact... i.e. the main occupancy shell had not crumpled.

You think an American car would've survived that? No way mate. Imagine an SL meeting with a new Corvette... both sports cars, both 2-seater roadsters, both with the engine in front... but the SL's driver will probably walk away, whilst the Corvette driver may become part of the upholstery.

[RC45]

I'll hope that it doesn't looks to much like an cheap Maybach rip-off

That is exactly what it will look like.

[T-Bird]

^^^ Maybe so, but I'm simply calling it like it is. I'm saddened by the accident and knowing some poor chap lost his life in it, but I can't help but think that he would've probably survived if he was in a better built car.

IIRC, 5th Gear did a crash test episode where they pitted a very small car (not sure if it was the Smart car or the A-class) against a very big car (I think it was the S-class), and the small car still came out pretty much intact... i.e. the main occupancy shell had not crumpled.

You think an American car would've survived that? No way mate. Imagine an SL meeting with a new Corvette... both sports cars, both 2-seater roadsters, both with the engine in front... but the SL's driver will probably walk away, whilst the Corvette driver may become part of the upholstery.

Take my car and run it into a 3-series and I would probably rip right through the center of it. Actually I've seen that a Mustang pretty much took the front off a 330 and the Mustang was in better condition.

[Sir_GT]

^^^ Maybe so, but I'm simply calling it like it is. I'm saddened by the accident and knowing some poor chap lost his life in it, but I can't help but think that he would've probably survived if he was in a better built car.

IIRC, 5th Gear did a crash test episode where they pitted a very small car (not sure if it was the Smart car or the A-class) against a very big car (I think it was the S-class), and the small car still came out pretty much intact... i.e. the main occupancy shell had not crumpled.

You think an American car would've survived that? No way mate. Imagine an SL meeting with a new Corvette... both sports cars, both 2-seater roadsters, both with the engine in front... but the SL's driver will probably walk away, whilst the Corvette driver may become part of the upholstery.

Take my car and run it into a 3-series and I would probably rip right through the center of it. Actually I've seen that a Mustang pretty much took the front off a 330 and the Mustang was in better condition.

You wouldn't rip right through it, most likely you would cause a huge dent on the side... whether or not your car would protect you is a different matter.

As you said, the Mustang took off the front end of a 330. No surprise, as that's what the front end of German cars is designed to do in the event of a crash - take the full force of the impact, and protect the occupants.

[Anonymous]

so whats this discussion turned into?? we should all drive cars based on their ncap rating??? you know that even with that rating you can still drive like a tool! Now i'm not saying that i don't have any sympathy cos i don't know the absolute facts of the incident, but people will still get hurt and killed on the roads for a long time to come :|

Oh and safe cars are boring :P


***EDIT*** sorry but i've just seen the pics on that website, this guy is a SICKO, taking pictures while the emergency services are still working to free people from the ford!! I think they have enough to worry about without having to think of people taking pictures of the victim :roll:

[Sir_GT]

so whats this discussion turned into?? we should all drive cars based on their ncap rating??? you know that even with that rating you can still drive like a tool! Now i'm not saying that i don't have any sympathy cos i don't know the absolute facts of the incident, but people will still get hurt and killed on the roads for a long time to come :|


I made a comment about American cars being crap when it comes to protecting occupants, and then somebody from America said that his mum's Ford would rip through a 1-series.

I don't think he knows that the 1-series isn't sold in America. :)

...or that the 1-series has a 5 star NCAP rating, and is actually about the same size as a full sized (E46) BMW. ;)

[T-Bird]

umm the 1-series will be sold here but not until the 2006 MY so maybe if I come across some Money I will buy one and run a Crown vic right into it just for you. And BTW the US does have ratings aswell and most Ford's have 5 star ratings.

[numerouno]

[quote="Sir_GT...IIRC, 5th Gear did a crash test episode where they pitted a very small car (not sure if it was the Smart car or the A-class) against a very big car (I think it was the S-class), and the small car still came out pretty much intact... i.e. the main occupancy shell had not crumpled....[/quote]
1. It was a smart against an e-class, and if you remember that episode, later they smashed a smart and a corsa against a concrete block and both took the shock pretty well with minimum damage to their passenger comp.; however you may also remeber that based on the damage to the CTD, the conclusion they drew was pretty shocking: no matter how big or well built your car is, you will most probably die when your car's speed suddenly comes to a halt from very high speeds like a hundred (mph) or so cause your internals won't take the impact.... bottomline: drive slowly if you're so afraid to die!
2. as you see the S got the Ford a little to the driver's side, so no wonder the blow was fatal to the ford guy.
3. Everyone's free to buy whatever car he likes; other people's opinions are only for themselves!

[sndr]

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