ATTENTION : FOR ALL THE YANKEES OF JW

[Jabba]

How are you going to vote then ?? if I could vote it would be for *** BUSH ***

Damn I bet thats going to be as popular with my fellow Euros as a rattle snake in a lucky dip...

Please please please can someone get some pictures of whats happening over there right now and post them here please...

[BADMIHAI]

I voted for Ferrari. Fuck the American elections. It's none of my business. :mrgreen:

[RC45]

How are you going to vote then ?? if I could vote it would be for *** BUSH ***

Damn I bet thats going to be as popular with my fellow Euros as a rattle snake in a lucky dip...

You do know that you have caused some small fury animals some where to be on the receiving end of some violent outbursts by some flabbaghasted members.. ;) :lol:


Please please please can someone get some pictures of whats happening over there right now and post them here please...

I'm on site at a customers facility (so no pics allowed) - in Boston - and I was very surprized at the number of outspoken Bush supporters this morning.

It seems a number of people just kept their opinions to themselves until after they cast their vote.

[BADMIHAI]

It seems a number of people just kept their opinions to themselves until after they cast their vote.



I'll make it my business. I am willing to bet $50 that Bush will win. Does anybody want to bet against Bush? :)


EDIT: Damn....I wasted my 4000 th post on this. You guys better place a bet! :wink:

[jon_s]

Well, if all the evangelical christians vote, Bush should be fine lol :wink:

[blah]

Id Vote Lamborghini over Ferrari, but then again id Vote McLaren F1 > All.

[blah]

OO and before i forget....




http://home.comcast.net/~fredthornton/I_voted.jpg


Look closely you can see the M-Gloves. god damnit i need to upload my pics to a imageshack account. I got pics of a SLR, 360 CS, 360 Modena, Testa Rossa, CL65, SL65s, and 2 new additions to our family stable.

[bmwmpower]

NOT VOTING PREFER TO SPEND MY TIME ON JW

[666fast]

I was at the polls right when they opened. I live in a small town, so it wasn't a 5 hour wait or anything. I was in and out rather quickly.

[blah]

me too, took 2 minutes, i voted around 8 AM, skipped class to go vote. There are already reports of fraud coming in all across the country. :shock: :?

[yg60m]

TT for president !!!! :D

[jon_s]

TT for president !!!! :D

HEll Yeah, he would sort out all the newbies!

[blah]

OO and before i forget....




[img ]http://home.comcast.net/~fredthornton/I_voted.jpg[/img ]


Look closely you can see the M-Gloves. god damnit i need to upload my pics to a imageshack account. I got pics of a SLR, 360 CS, 360 Modena, Testa Rossa, CL65, SL65s, and 2 new additions to our family stable.
All i see are white socks :P Girls must so NOT like you :lol:

that or they are all softball players. :wink:

[Darkel]

HEll Yeah, he would sort out all the newbies!
Be careful, he'd probably attack Viperbond 'cause they have vids of mass destruction :mrgreen:

[fishfreek]

Me and the wife voted this morning at quarter till 6. In and out in 15minutes. I dont belive photos are allowed within the polling places unless its a member of the press. There are always representives from either party outside the polling place handing out literatre, etc. We had our baby with us and the Kerry supporters where more concerned with shoving literature down our thorats where as the Bush supporters where more interested in teh baby.

We voted Bush!

[Schwalbe]

I voted for TT, because I'm for the democratization of biturbo engine. :wink:

[coloradosilver]

My Fiance went to vote this moring on her way to work and the lines were close to 3 hours long at 9 am.

Makes me glad that I voted via Absentee Ballot!! Oh BTW...

GO BUSH!!!!

[graywolf624]

Well I ended up voting for bush.. Though it was a tough decision over bardnarik.

[Vansquish]

Well for all the pro-Bush props, somehow the poll here is leaning in favor of Kerry atm...interesting hehe...if it hasn't already become obvious, I voted for the other guy :-)

[FoxFour]

Go here http://www.foxnews.com/
Click on 'Track your Races' It will update the elections results every 10 minutes or so.

[nthfinity]

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19186
i just got back, and posted all the pics... i have a few short vids... and will post them if you want... nothing that special really... just the people in the polls, and a guy telling me its a large turnout, and camming it around... just to find out all the pictures are not allowed (mabey illegal?)

[Jabba]

Go here http://www.foxnews.com/
Click on 'Track your Races' It will update the elections results every 10 minutes or so.

Thanks dude...this is what I have been looking for...although I have Foxnews on here of course on the TV.

[Jabba]

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19186
i just got back, and posted all the pics... i have a few short vids... and will post them if you want... nothing that special really... just the people in the polls, and a guy telling me its a large turnout, and camming it around... just to find out all the pictures are not allowed (mabey illegal?)

CHEERS !!! I am off to check them all out right now....

[nthfinity]

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19186
i just got back, and posted all the pics... i have a few short vids... and will post them if you want... nothing that special really... just the people in the polls, and a guy telling me its a large turnout, and camming it around... just to find out all the pictures are not allowed (mabey illegal?)

CHEERS !!! I am off to check them all out right now....
my ballot isnt so secret :wink:

[Jabba]

I was getting worried looking at the JW poll.....glad to see George fighting back...

I should have said that everyone voting for Bush could have access to the video vault...not sure how legal that would have been though seeing that I am in the UK.

[nthfinity]

I was getting worried looking at the JW poll.....glad to see George fighting back...

I should have said that everyone voting for Bush could have access to the video vault...not sure how legal that would have been though seeing that I am in the UK.
well... for the 'global test' cirtainly, bush seems to fail... particularly with the younger crowd.

it would have been funny if you did say that about those voting for bush :lol:
im sorry the pictures are blurry... as the light was low... no tripod, and i wasnt going to use a flash lol. but i think it works alright :-D

any particular reason you wanted to see our polling system?

[SilviaS15Cwest]

I guess Kerry supporters are just quite? He is winning pretty good right now but no one posting that likes him... Well I will change that.

[FoxFour]

No matter what political differences we all may have, we are all family here on Jabbasworld. All good families have disagreements.

[Jabba]

any particular reason you wanted to see our polling system?

I guess to try and get a feel for some of the atmosphere...I will be here for most of the night (morning) watching the results coming in.

[FoxFour]

I guess Kerry supporters are just quite? He is winning pretty good right now but no one posting that likes him... Well I will change that.

Still too early in the game, things could change quickly later on. It is good to see the Bush results looking the way they are now. I go to work 11pm here. I probably won't hear anything till I come home tomorrow morning.

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Well the polls just closed on the west coast. Those results should come in here pretty soon. The polls where I live are going to be open another hour and a half, and further down they have even more time, so we wont know for quite some time.

[graywolf624]

Well the polls just closed on the west coast. Those results should come in here pretty soon. The polls where I live are going to be open another hour and a half, and further down they have even more time, so we wont know for quite some time.

you mean east coast:)

[ZfrkS62]

i thought the polls closed at 8? its only 7:30 on the east coast.

[graywolf624]

i thought the polls closed at 8? its only 7:30 on the east coast.

depends on the state.

[nthfinity]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6337677/
President: The race is too close to call in North Carolina and Ohio. West Virginia's race is too early to call. The projections announced so far give President Bush 34 electoral votes and Sen. John Kerry three electoral votes.

[Jabba]

RED ALERT :

NBC PROJECTION : BUSH WINS FLORIDA

[bmw745ion19s]

BUSH, Republicans all the way!!!!

[Jabba]

I can only think its the offer of the video vault that is swinging the votes. If Bush wins I should be considered for a US citizenship I think :D

[Anonymous]

RED ALERT :

NBC PROJECTION : BUSH WINS FLORIDA

And what happened with the predictions last time :P then fox of all people got it right i believe

BTW nice to see TT and ferrari doing do well...... also you like your rattle snakes in lucky dips lately don't ya :P I'll have to try and slp that phrase into conversation :D

[nthfinity]

I can only think its the offer of the video vault that is swinging the votes. If Bush wins I should be considered for a US citizenship I think :D

im sure the US would not mind one bit to have you be a citizen :) besides, there needs to be more diablo roadsters here 8) (ive never seen one in person)

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Sell the business and then live here off of what you get for it... :D

[Anonymous]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

[nthfinity]

kerry took some expected east coast votes....
@ current predictions...

78 kerry
66 bush

[gigdy]

I didnt vote and im a little afraid, because puff daddy is gonna kill me now.

[RC45]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Jabba - we can set up some squatters in the basement of your offices and have em run things while you get settled on this side of the pond.. ;)

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

[callen]

George W. Bush is a terrorist. I voted for Ferrari btw :mrgreen:

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Jabba - we can set up some squatters in the basement of your offices and have em run things while you get settled on this side of the pond.. ;)

Yep sounds good...am I right in thinking you kinda did the same thing RC ?? or was you originally in the USA then left for a bit then returned ?

[Anonymous]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

Dang i knew you'd be on 40% tax but the stamp duty on the house :shock: i honestly never knew it was that high.... you have to ask yourself where does it all go........ dealing with asylum seekers probably :P oh well i'm resonably happy as a student here, but my perception may change when i start earning a bit :wink:

[nthfinity]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.
ive heard about such events in the UK, but im really quite unfamiliar. im hoping the pollitical debate section will lead to more other side of the pond debates once our election is finished.

something that is happening here a lot within buisnesses are direct connections across nations for live conferencing... but, obviously, that is less direct control of one's buisness.
edit: projections
bush 81
kerry 77
michigan is almost closed polls

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

Dang i knew you'd be on 40% tax but the stamp duty on the house :shock: i honestly never knew it was that high.... you have to ask yourself where does it all go........ dealing with asylum seekers probably :P oh well i'm resonably happy as a student here, but my perception may change when i start earning a bit :wink:

This is the bit that I consider to be illegal...and only the government could get away with it.

The tax for a house costing £ 0 - £60,000 is ZERO

The tax for a house costing £60,001 - £250,000 is 1 %

The tax for a house costing £250,001 - £500,000 is 3 %

THe tax for a house costing over £500,000 is 4 %

HOWEVER you pay the 4 % on the whole £500,000 where as IMO you should pay 4 % on just the part that is between the £250,001 and £500,000...hope you follow me...

[Anonymous]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

Dang i knew you'd be on 40% tax but the stamp duty on the house :shock: i honestly never knew it was that high.... you have to ask yourself where does it all go........ dealing with asylum seekers probably :P oh well i'm resonably happy as a student here, but my perception may change when i start earning a bit :wink:

This is the bit that I consider to be illegal...and only the govenment could get away with it.

The tax for a house costing £ 0 - £60,000 is ZERO

The tax for a house costing £60,001 - £250,000 is 1 %

The tax for a house costing £250,001 - £500,000 is 3 %

THe tax for a house costing over £500,000 is 4 %

HOWEVER you pay the 4 % on the whole £500,000 where as IMO you should pay 4 % on just the part that is between the £250,001 and £500,000...hope you follow me

Indeed I do in the same way that you only pay the whole 40% on income over around £30,000..... why have one rule for income tax and another for stamp duty on houses :? If i'm right in what i just said then I agree any other private business wouldn't be able to get away with it, but it is our wonderful government :roll: Don't want to even think about the inheritance tax i believe thats even worse :roll:

[RC45]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Jabba - we can set up some squatters in the basement of your offices and have em run things while you get settled on this side of the pond.. ;)

Yep sounds good...am I right in thinking you kinda did the same thing RC ?? or was you originally in the USA then left for a bit then returned ?

I said... "ahhhhh Fuckitall..." lemme go on vacation and see wha' all 'e fuss izabaut. After all - I'll be 'ome sick after a mumf.. aye.. ;)

Well - going on 10 years later and married and a daughter and a house and plastic car with a baby pram suspension - I say it was not half a bad choice to go on that "it's just one date - what harm could it do" with the girl I met in Chicago.. :D

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

Dang i knew you'd be on 40% tax but the stamp duty on the house :shock: i honestly never knew it was that high.... you have to ask yourself where does it all go........ dealing with asylum seekers probably :P oh well i'm resonably happy as a student here, but my perception may change when i start earning a bit :wink:

This is the bit that I consider to be illegal...and only the govenment could get away with it.

The tax for a house costing £ 0 - £60,000 is ZERO

The tax for a house costing £60,001 - £250,000 is 1 %

The tax for a house costing £250,001 - £500,000 is 3 %

THe tax for a house costing over £500,000 is 4 %

HOWEVER you pay the 4 % on the whole £500,000 where as IMO you should pay 4 % on just the part that is between the £250,001 and £500,000...hope you follow me

Indeed I do in the same way that you only pay the whole 40% on income over around £30,000..... why have one rule for income tax and another for stamp duty on houses :? If i'm right in what i just said then I agree any other private business wouldn't be able to get away with it, but it is our wonderful government :roll: Don't want to even think about the inheritance tax i believe thats even worse :roll:

Yep that is correct....they just make it up as they go along...and dont even get me started on speed cameras.

[Jabba]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Jabba - we can set up some squatters in the basement of your offices and have em run things while you get settled on this side of the pond.. ;)

Yep sounds good...am I right in thinking you kinda did the same thing RC ?? or was you originally in the USA then left for a bit then returned ?

I said... "ahhhhh Fuckitall..." lemme go on vacation and see wha' all 'e fuss izabaut. After all - I'll be 'ome sick after a mumf.. aye.. ;)

Well - going on 10 years later and married and a daughter and a house and plastic car with a baby pram suspension - I say it was not half a bad choice to go on that "it's just one date - what harm could it do" with the girl I met in Chicago.. :D

Cool story indeed.

[Anonymous]

If it wasnt for my business I would be on the first plane out of here.

Another Brit fed up with this country? ..... USA your preferred destination then Jabba??... my parents are the same about wanting to get out... but france is where they want to go when my dad retires (soon hopefully). Thats why theres so many relocation things on TV i guess. My favourite recently on one of these shows was the guy who said he was immigrating to Australia because there were too many immigrants in this country..... nearly pissed myself laughing at him :P :P

The people that don't want to work live off the people that do want to work...

40 % tax on my salary then 4 % stamp duty on the house I buy with the salary that I already paid the tax on....which amounted to another £39,000...money that is gone for good...and would make it impossible to move now...even if I wanted to...and they wonder why people are fed up with the UK.

I have often thought I would be better off leaving the UK and returning as an asylum seeker.

Dang i knew you'd be on 40% tax but the stamp duty on the house :shock: i honestly never knew it was that high.... you have to ask yourself where does it all go........ dealing with asylum seekers probably :P oh well i'm resonably happy as a student here, but my perception may change when i start earning a bit :wink:

This is the bit that I consider to be illegal...and only the govenment could get away with it.

The tax for a house costing £ 0 - £60,000 is ZERO

The tax for a house costing £60,001 - £250,000 is 1 %

The tax for a house costing £250,001 - £500,000 is 3 %

THe tax for a house costing over £500,000 is 4 %

HOWEVER you pay the 4 % on the whole £500,000 where as IMO you should pay 4 % on just the part that is between the £250,001 and £500,000...hope you follow me

Indeed I do in the same way that you only pay the whole 40% on income over around £30,000..... why have one rule for income tax and another for stamp duty on houses :? If i'm right in what i just said then I agree any other private business wouldn't be able to get away with it, but it is our wonderful government :roll: Don't want to even think about the inheritance tax i believe thats even worse :roll:

Yep that is correct....they just make it up as they go along...and dont even get me started on speed cameras.

HAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHA don't say that word outloud :P I'm just trying survive till march when i'll have been driving two years and will get a "full" 12 point licence, at the moment 6 points i.e two speeding/ red light tickets and i'll have to retake my test and everything :roll: No tickets as of yet but some close calls with those so called "safety camera vans" in derby..... funny how i never see them outside the primary school round the corner from me :roll:

[SilviaS15Cwest]

The most recent thing says that Bush has 94 electoral votes and Kerry has 77. I think they need 270 to win.

[Max Power]

HOWEVER you pay the 4 % on the whole £500,000 where as IMO you should pay 4 % on just the part that is between the £250,001 and £500,000

...compare that to paying taxes for a car through customs.
0 - 1L > $1
1 - 2L > $2
2 - 3L > $3
3L + > $4

u don't pay $3 bucks for the 3L and then $4 on the remaining

[Jabba]

Yes but then you dont get many cars costing over £500,000 either.

[Max Power]

same with income.......
u make 40g they tax u 15%
60g - 20%
80+ - 40%
the gov't taxes your whole income 40% rather than 15% on 40g plus 20% on the 20g more and 40% on the 20g on top of that.......its just a set rate......but I get where u r going and that's not going anywhere.....u c where I'm going?

[Jabba]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

[Max Power]

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/8949/jabba.jpg

[Jabba]

Looks good to me....LMAO !!!!

[RC45]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Not to tempt you - but Texas has no state income tax - and the Federal Income tax rates (for 2003 - slightly better numbers for 2004) range from 10% to a maximum of 35%...

And to qualify for the 35% tax bracket you need ot be raking in a healthy $311,951 or more - of TAXABLE income.. :P

You enter the 25% tax bracket at $28,401 - $68,800 as a single bloke.. and the 28% bracket at $68,801 - $143,500 and thenget into the 33% bracket at $143,501- $311,950 ...

So - when can we see you over here.. ? ;)

[666fast]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

[Jabba]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Not to tempt you - but Texas has no state income tax - and the Federal Income tax rates range from 10% to a maximum of 35%...

And to qualify for the 35% tax bracket you need ot be raking in a healthy $311,951 or more - of TAXABLE income.. :P

You enter the 25% tax bracket at $28,401 - $68,800 as a single bloke.. and the 28% bracket at $68,801 - $143,500 and thenget into the 33% bracket at $143,501- $311,950 ...

So - when can we see you over here.. ? ;)

I visited Texas a few years ago...and everything sure is bigger there....the only thing that puts me off slightly is the death penalty...not that I think thats a bad thing for criminals...just not for me.... should I be wrongly convicted of something.

[RC45]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

Only if you are prepared to pay ANOTHER 7.85% tax...


MINNESOTA (a) 5.35 - 7.85

[Jabba]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

I sure got plenty of experience of bad weather living in the UK.

[RC45]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Not to tempt you - but Texas has no state income tax - and the Federal Income tax rates range from 10% to a maximum of 35%...

And to qualify for the 35% tax bracket you need ot be raking in a healthy $311,951 or more - of TAXABLE income.. :P

You enter the 25% tax bracket at $28,401 - $68,800 as a single bloke.. and the 28% bracket at $68,801 - $143,500 and thenget into the 33% bracket at $143,501- $311,950 ...

So - when can we see you over here.. ? ;)

I visited Texas a few years ago...and everything sure is bigger there....the only thing that puts me off slightly is the death penalty...not that I think thats a bad thing for criminals...just not for me.... should I be wrongly convicted of something.

Don't worry about the death penalty - I know a good law firm - kept me out of trouble once or twice.. LOL :lol:

[SilviaS15Cwest]

You like Bush but you are against the death penalty? Hmmm... Oh, and if there are enough witness's they are trying to put in a fast lane to the person dieing in Texas.

[RC45]

You like Bush but you are against the death penalty? Hmmm... Oh, and if there are enough witness's they are trying to put in a fast lane to the person dieing in Texas.

Hey - he doesnt have to worry about the death penalty - after all it is texas - he will be a wealthy white guy.. no one executes wealthy white guys... or any colour wealthy guys for that matter.. :P ;)

[Jabba]

You like Bush but you are against the death penalty? Hmmm... Oh, and if there are enough witness's they are trying to put in a fast lane to the person dieing in Texas.

If you read my post...I said I didn't think it was a bad thing for criminals...

[Jabba]

You like Bush but you are against the death penalty? Hmmm... Oh, and if there are enough witness's they are trying to put in a fast lane to the person dieing in Texas.

Hey - he doesnt have to worry about the death penalty - after all it is texas - he will be a wealthy white guy.. no one executes wealthy white guys... or any colour wealthy guys for that matter.. :P ;)

Seems quite fair I guess LOL :wink:

[666fast]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

Only if you are prepared to pay ANOTHER 7.85% tax...


MINNESOTA (a) 5.35 - 7.85

LOL, it's not so bad. I get most of it back every year anyway. :lol:

RC, with no state income taxes, do you guys pay a tax on groceries, clothing, etc..?

[SilviaS15Cwest]

I read your post, and you said that you were worried shall you be wrongly convicted. But you still sounded scared of that law. But RC is right, they dont even kill weathy people, you should do fine.

[Jabba]

Not scared...just un-sure until I do a bit more research...I am sure RC is just the chap to be full of facts of figures regarding the death penalty in Texas.

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Its really nothing. They only give that to people that have killed several other people and it was planned. And they have to have a really good case to even consider that as the punishment.

[RC45]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

Only if you are prepared to pay ANOTHER 7.85% tax...


MINNESOTA (a) 5.35 - 7.85

LOL, it's not so bad. I get most of it back every year anyway. :lol:

RC, with no state income taxes, do you guys pay a tax on groceries, clothing, etc..?

Well - it will range from city to city. The state rate is 6 1/4% (.0625) and then cities and counties pay also impose a small 0.002% or so tax.

But if you don't spend - you don't pay.. ;)

Remember, Texas taxes the oil and gas that is pumped and drilled out the ground - this is how everything is pretty much paid for around these here parts.

You pay property tax directly to your school district - which helps pay for schools and other dictrict services - but then only if you own property.

[RC45]

Not scared...just un-sure until I do a bit more research...I am sure RC is just the chap to be full of facts of figures regarding the death penalty in Texas.

Hell yeah... :twisted:

I have season tickets... :P

[Jabba]

Its really nothing. They only give that to people that have killed several other people and it was planned. And they have to have a really good case to even consider that as the punishment.

Thats my point...I don't mind them executing the 100 % guilty people....but am I right in thinking that Texas executes more people than all the other states combined....??

Now either you got a lot of naughty people down there or maybe a few innocent people are slipping through the system ??

[nthfinity]

You like Bush but you are against the death penalty? Hmmm... Oh, and if there are enough witness's they are trying to put in a fast lane to the person dieing in Texas.
you know kerry is a supporter of the death penalty too?
i am indifferent to this myself

[graywolf624]

Now either you got a lot of naughty people down there or maybe a few innocent people are slipping through the system ??


Or perhaps the other states arent executing enough?

[Jabba]

Now either you got a lot of naughty people down there or maybe a few innocent people are slipping through the system ??


Or perhaps the other states arent executing enough?


ROTFLMAO !!!! Good point.

[RC45]

Thats my point...I don't mind them executing the 100 % guilty people....but am I right in thinking that Texas executes more people than all the other states combined....??

Now either you got a lot of naughty people down there or maybe a few innocent people are slipping through the system ??

Well the mandatory appeals process will keep you alive and kicking for a few years - and with current DNA technology helping get those railroaded by the system years ago, out - you have a good chance.. :)

Also remember - MANY of the folks on death row are career criminals - you seldom hear of "mistaken white collar guys that were in the wrong place at the wrong time" - unless there is HUGE suspicion around the guy - like his wife and kid ended up dead in the Bay while he is out fishing.. ;)

[666fast]

But I am going somwhere with a bit of luck...away from this damn country.

Come to Minnesota, you'll love it. As long as you don't mind the occasional severe cold weather and snowfall in the winter! :lol:

Only if you are prepared to pay ANOTHER 7.85% tax...


MINNESOTA (a) 5.35 - 7.85

LOL, it's not so bad. I get most of it back every year anyway. :lol:

RC, with no state income taxes, do you guys pay a tax on groceries, clothing, etc..?

Well - it will range from city to city. The state rate is 6 1/4% (.0625) and then cities and counties pay also impose a small 0.002% or so tax.

But if you don't spend - you don't pay.. ;)

Remember, Texas taxes the oil and gas that is pumped and drilled out the ground - this is how everything is pretty much paid for around these here parts.

You pay property tax directly to your school district - which helps pay for schools and other dictrict services - but then only if you own property.

I believe thats how it works where my sister lives. (Washington State) Well, except the oil part obviously. They pay no state income taxes, but everything they buy is taxed. It's the opposite here, neccessities like food and clothing are not taxed. There are exceptions though. Candy, soda, fast food and such are taxed as they aren't a neccessity.

So, since you don't pay :wink: Does that mean you grow you own food and make all of your clothes out of hemp grown in your garage? :wink:

The school district is pretty much the same here. I wouldn't know, I'm an apartment dweller. :lol: If I owned a home, I'd pay for the very school I went to. Like they need it though. Right now, the High School I went to is planning a multi-million dollar extension, while downtown, a couple schools were closed. But remember, No Child Left Behind!! :wink:

[Jabba]

guys that were in the wrong place at the wrong time

That somes up my life perfectly.

[blah]

Jabba bring your fat ass our here to California, and get some of those fine California women, i mean no one can resist the jabbadaddy.

[Jabba]

Nice to have so many places ready to adopt me...thank goodness for JW.

[666fast]

Also remember - MANY of the folks on death row are career criminals - you seldom hear of "mistaken white collar guys that were in the wrong place at the wrong time" - unless there is HUGE suspicion around the guy - like his wife and kid ended up dead in the Bay while he is out fishing..



LOL, don't confess your love to another woman either. She might come to testify.

RC, was it Texas that was recently having some problems related to old cases verses new DNA technology? I saw a show about a week or two ago where one lab was being torn apart and old cases re-evaluated because of crappy work done by it's employees. I think it was Texas, but I'm not 100% sure.


Well the mandatory appeals process will keep you alive and kicking for a few years - and with current DNA technology helping get those railroaded by the system years ago, out - you have a good chance..


Then you get out of jail and they demand you pay your room and board bill. :wink:

I wouldn't worry about the death penalty Jabba, thats for folks that commit the most hainous of crimes. Seeing how generous you are, you don't strike me as the type to go on a killing spree! :lol:

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Not scared...just un-sure until I do a bit more research...I am sure RC is just the chap to be full of facts of figures regarding the death penalty in Texas.

Hell yeah... :twisted:

I have season tickets... :P

LMAO. I am also imparshal. I would rather put a couple bad people down then have our tax dollars being put to keeping them feed.

[Jabba]

I have it as BUSH : 193 and KERRY : 112 here @ 3:24 am UK time...anyone want to make a prediction yet ?

[nthfinity]

34% of pricincts.... and my home state is still to close to call... but ill say bush wins by the largest landslide since reagan... but we shall see

[SilviaS15Cwest]

I have it as BUSH : 193 and KERRY : 112 here @ 3:24 am UK time...anyone want to make a prediction yet ?

That doesnt really mean much. Those are all of the states that Bush won back in 2000. The states that matter are still being tallied up. All it takes is Kerry to win Florida, California, New Hampshire, or a couple of the swing states and he will catch up really fast.

[Jabba]

If Bush gets Florida would it almost be in the bag for him ?

[nthfinity]

If Bush gets Florida would it almost be in the bag for him ?
florida, michigan, and OH

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Well they need 270 votes to win. He has like 195 right now. Florida is like 34 votes. So if Bush won Florida that would be a huge boost for him. That would put him at about 229. It wouldnt automatically allow him to win, but it would make it much easier for him to win.

[Jabba]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

[blah]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

ahuh going to bed with the laptop to watch the election. Lying bastard if i see you name in the Babes section ill know what your really doing :D

BTW kerry just won PA.

[Jabba]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH....Now theres an idea...

[RC45]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

I hear you... ;)

I am still on site... it's 11pm here in Boston and I am being called to San Diego to help bring an over budget, under achieving project back on track -- flying out tomorrow night.. :shock:

:)

Hehe

[nthfinity]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours

well, if its somewhat like 4 years ago... many of us stayed up all night to find out nothing was really decided... so sleep well Big Daddy

[Jabba]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

I hear you... ;)

I am still on site... it's 11pm here in Boston and I am being called to San Diego to help bring an over budget, under achieving project back on track -- flying out tomorrow night.. :shock:

:)

Hehe

I wonder if we will have a result by then RC ?

[blah]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

I hear you... ;)

I am still on site... it's 11pm here in Boston and I am being called to San Diego to help bring an over budget, under achieving project back on track -- flying out tomorrow night.. :shock:

:)

Hehe

we dont like your kind around here boy. :x

[Jabba]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours

well, if its somewhat like 4 years ago... many of us stayed up all night to find out nothing was really decided... so sleep well Big Daddy

Just what I was thinking....I remember last time waking up to see them still trying to call Florida...and then it went on for like another 6 weeks...

[RC45]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

I hear you... ;)

I am still on site... it's 11pm here in Boston and I am being called to San Diego to help bring an over budget, under achieving project back on track -- flying out tomorrow night.. :shock:

:)

Hehe

we dont like your kind around here boy. :x

I can imagine - there are no people good enough on the left coast to take care of a simple 5 week project.. ;)

It's guys like us that always have to be flown in to clean up the messes y'all create.. :P

[blah]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours

well, if its somewhat like 4 years ago... many of us stayed up all night to find out nothing was really decided... so sleep well Big Daddy

Just what I was thinking....I remember last time waking up to see them still trying to call Florida...and then it went on for like another 6 weeks...

Its cuz florida is gods joke on america.

[RC45]

Well I am making a sandwich and going to bed with laptop to continue watching the coverage and keeping an eye on JW....not that theres much point...as I have to be up for work in 3 hours :|

I hear you... ;)

I am still on site... it's 11pm here in Boston and I am being called to San Diego to help bring an over budget, under achieving project back on track -- flying out tomorrow night.. :shock:

:)

Hehe

I wonder if we will have a result by then RC ?

A result - sure, but whether the Democrats will let it lie who knows.. ;) :P

[Jabba]

Yep...just keep on re-counting until you get the result you want...LOL

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Its starting to heat up. Bush just won Arizona, but Kerry won Penn and Cali. 210 for Bush - 188 for Kerry

[gigdy]

ohio and florida damnit. lets get goin

[RC45]

Its starting to heat up. Bush just won Arizona, but Kerry won Penn and Cali. 210 for Bush - 188 for Kerry

LOL :lol: - the Californicators seemed to have forgotten how much in love they were vit Aaaaanold.. unlez zey just votit for ze Governator becauz zey only regognized zat vun name ond da ballod papier.. ;)

[graywolf624]

bush projected by abc to have won florida! 97 percent reporting.

[dingo]

Bush 246 Kerry 199....according to CBS, thats with Florida counted.
It looks like it is over, but if Kerry can win Ohio and Michigan (combined 37 votes) he might still be a chance. :)

[nthfinity]

Bush 246 Kerry 199....according to CBS, thats with Florida counted.
It looks like it is over, but if Kerry can win Ohio and Michigan (combined 37 votes) he might still be a chance. :)

George W. Bush (REP)* 1,997,434 52%
John F. Kerry (DEM) 1,845,407 48%
70% of precincts reporting
in OH

[gigdy]

it pretty much comes down to ohio now.

[nthfinity]

Bush has been gaining in MI throughout the night too... we shall see. i hope my home state agrees with me

[blah]

damn the state i was born in.. You better fucking come through, and give kerry a win there. Well Who do you think is next on the hitlist if bush wins? I hear Syria is nice this time of the year.

[dingo]

If Bush gets Ohio then he's up to 266, which pretty much ends it.
BTW, Kerry just won Oregon so he's on 207.

[blah]

chmon Ohio baby. Get our ass into gear, only 70% counted so far.

[nthfinity]

ABC
Bush (R) 43,682,726 237
Kerry (D) 40,945,651 195
Nader (I) 303,737 0

NBC
Bush (R) 51% 210
Kerry (D) 48% 206
Nader (I) 0% 0

CBS
John KERRY 40,715,980 207
George BUSH 43,384,701 246
Ralph NADER 302,182 0

Fox
270 of 538 needed to win
Bush 210
Kerry 144

CNN
Bush
44,059,194 51% 234
Kerry
41,256,427 48% 188
Nader
305,519 1% 0

[dingo]

If Kerry gets Ohio he will be right in it again, since the majority of the remaining undecided states went to Gore last time. :)

[SilviaS15Cwest]

I heard that Bush won? Is this true?