New RS4 possibly spotted

[DjPtsatsot]

As you guys may remember, Recently Audi announced the release of a new Chasis/Body facelift for its A4 and S4 model range. Recently spotted by Autobild.de were some exclusive shots possibly of the new B7 RS4. This clearly wont be the production rather clearly a prototype (note rollcage, 4 point harness etc.) but it still looks very very good. (note: this is clearly at the Nurburgring Race track in Germany, where most european car manufacturers test their cars)

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[DanielW]

i like it.
the skinny headlights remind me a little bit of a few fiats and seats. and maybe a little bit of the opel calibra.

[mindgam3]

nice

[sentra_dude]

Wow, that looks excellent, I wonder what trannie it will have...

[Skaala]

the front kinda reminds me of the r34 skyline, mabe just the headlamps....

[TT]

Already kinda cute! Talk about fat muffler :D

[kramerman]

Like the rims and the mufflers.. but the front is a little odd. not as 'smooth' as i would like an audi to be.

[skituner]

looks mean 8)

[dutchmasterflex]

wow.. this is the first new audi i think looks nice... i really dont like what they are doin with their giant sized grills in their new models... but in black it doesnt look as bad because it blends in

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Its cool, except for the A6 rear lights :?

[Just_me]

sorry guys, this is not the new rs4, only an ABT version of A4

[PeleProdigyGTO]

I love the new fat grills, I like it on this one and even more on the new A6. This looks really good. And I'm pretty sure a new M3 is faster than an S4.

[Just_me]

bye bye M3 :)


LOL it was bye bye M3 with the S model, with this the M`s will probably not even get a good view of the mufflers....... :twisted:


what do you mean? S4 with 344hp is slower than M3.

[jon_s]

sorry guys, this is not the new rs4, only an ABT version of A4

If that is 'just' the ABT, the RS4 is going to rock!

As for the M3 v S4 debate, the S4 has always been quicker in the twisties, some argue it has a better lap time on corner heavy trackes. However, in terms of driver 'feel' it lacks something. In a straight line, I believe the M3 would win, and (this is comming from an audi fan!) the M3 MAY be more fun to drive! I will let you know when I have driven both lol :wink:

[mrpushrod]

Looks good with the all black grille although the headlights remind me of someone who has had a little too much plastic surgery around the eyes, lol. It's certainly aggressive though.

[Schwalbe]

Well, yes it's the new RS4 sedan with the N/A 4.2L V8 420 hp. I hope to see the RS4 Avant model soon. I like this new model, even if it's not turbocharged, but it would have been much more faithful to RS tradition if it had been biturbo. Maybe in the future...

[KramRS2]

I think that a NA engine is a shame to Audi.
Rumors of 15sec. 0-200km/h is not good enough for a car that can't be easy tuned. B5 RS4 with Stage I do better than this.

[bmagni]

bye bye M3 :)


LOL it was bye bye M3 with the S model, with this the M`s will probably not even get a good view of the mufflers....... :twisted:


what do you mean? S4 with 344hp is slower than M3.

the S4 but the RS4 gives some fight... its quicker i think...
though the new m3 will kick ass

[HeilSvenska]

Not on icy roads, or on dirt.

[DeMoN]

headlights = mazda 6 anyone?

[PeleProdigyGTO]

bye bye M3 :)


LOL it was bye bye M3 with the S model, with this the M`s will probably not even get a good view of the mufflers....... :twisted:


what do you mean? S4 with 344hp is slower than M3.

No it isnt.... :wink:

I'm pretty sure everywhere I've looked sais 0-60 for M3 is around 4.7, and for the S4 it's over 5. I know 0-60 isn't the end all indicator of performance, but still, it's faster. What are the S4 numbers then?

[Just_me]

"Just_Me" is wrong...that is NOT the ABT S4, the picture IS the RS4 being tested.

specs on the RS4: 4.2L V8-----420hp.

as for the S4 vs. M3 comparisons....on a track the S4 is the faster car.....acceleration wise, the M3 may be quicker. Both cars are VERY different, however i like the refinement S4 better than the raw aggression of an M3.

NO ITS NOT. Not according to rs6.com. there is a germanguy calling himself Nordschleife. I dont want to be mean but I think he knows better than you.

Quote:
This is an Abt version of an A/S4. Look at the number plate, its from Kempten.
You can usually spot Abt, they have a taste problem, like most tuners.
R+C

[Just_me]

I'm pretty sure everywhere I've looked sais 0-60 for M3 is around 4.7, and for the S4 it's over 5. I know 0-60 isn't the end all indicator of performance, but still, it's faster. What are the S4 numbers then?

S4:
sport auto 3/2003
0 - 100 km/h 5,4 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,9 s

ams 1/2003
0 - 100 km/h 5,7 s
0 - 200 km/h 21,0 s

S4 Avant:
sport auto 11/2003
0 - 100 km/h 5,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 21,1 s

S4 cabrio:
sport auto 06/2004
0 - 100 km/h 6,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 23,0 s

M3:
sport auto 12/2002
0 - 100 km/h 5,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 18,6 s

sport auto 12/2000
0 - 100 km/h 5,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 18,1 s

sport auto 3/2003
0 - 100 km/h 5,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 17,9 s

ams 1/2003
0 - 100 km/h 4,8 s
0 - 200 km/h 16,8 s

[Vansquish]

Looks great...too bad the weight bias is so heavily towards the front...it'd be a really hot hot car if it was a little more evenly distributed F/R.

[PeleProdigyGTO]

Thanks Just_Me, so the M3 IS faster!

[adamk24]

Me likie :mrgreen: Audi = teh roxor

[Just_me]

It looks great... but the last RS4 was more agressive IMO. However, the RS4 I want to see is the Avant.

well,its not the new rs4 on the pics so dont give up hope :wink:

[bmwmpower]

specs on the RS4: 4.2L V8-----420hp. ?
not with atmosferic engine, turbocharged, not very interesting numbers,

[Wutputt]

Idd it's an ABT, since the license plate starts with KE, or Kempten the homebase of ABT.


Wow, that looks excellent, I wonder what trannie it will have...
Rumours say that they have tested 7-speed tiptronic.
I heard this rumour also that they will fit it with a 7-speed automatic. But I also overheard the rumour that Audi/BorgWarner are developing a 7-speed DSG that can handle 700 Nm of torque.

[mindgam3]

I'm pretty sure everywhere I've looked sais 0-60 for M3 is around 4.7, and for the S4 it's over 5. I know 0-60 isn't the end all indicator of performance, but still, it's faster. What are the S4 numbers then?


I dont care about 0-100 numbers it doesnt mean shit really, yeah it says how fast it is in a straight line wich nobody here argue.......but on a track it is faster and thats what counts when comparing how fast two cars are.....

It doesnt matter if you are the first one to the turn in, when you cant get thru the turn...... :wink:

you saying the M3 isnt a good handling car? ;)

I'd take the M3 over the S4 anyday - more fun ;)

i think we've been here before tho..... several times

[Just_me]

I'm pretty sure everywhere I've looked sais 0-60 for M3 is around 4.7, and for the S4 it's over 5. I know 0-60 isn't the end all indicator of performance, but still, it's faster. What are the S4 numbers then?


I dont care about 0-100 numbers it doesnt mean shit really, yeah it says how fast it is in a straight line wich nobody here argue.......but on a track it is faster and thats what counts when comparing how fast two cars are.....

It doesnt matter if you are the first one to the turn in, when you cant get thru the turn...... :wink:

thats up to the driver, only reason is cause the S4 is easier to drive but with a real pro behind, its different.
SportAuto:

S4
Hockenheim: 1.18,1 min

Avant:
Hockenheim: 1.19,1 min
Nordschleife: 8.29 min

Cabrio:
Hockenheim: 1.20,2 min

M3:
Hockenheim: 1.17,6 min
Hockenheim: 1.16,3 min
Nordschleife: 8.22 min

M3 Cabrio:
Hockenheim: 1.18,4 min


Brembo, you little fanboy :wink:

[possessed_beaver]

headlights = mazda 6 anyone?

nah, i reckon it looks like the LEXUX is200/is300 headlights

http://www.garage-frey.ch/tuning/Lexus_IS200/lexus_is200_3.jpg

maybee im the only one who can see it?

[PeleProdigyGTO]

I'm thinkin' all these numbers everyone posted are in the favor of the M3 being faster around the track too. You got some numbers to prove us wrong?

[Vansquish]

I'm pretty sure everywhere I've looked sais 0-60 for M3 is around 4.7, and for the S4 it's over 5. I know 0-60 isn't the end all indicator of performance, but still, it's faster. What are the S4 numbers then?


I dont care about 0-100 numbers it doesnt mean shit really, yeah it says how fast it is in a straight line wich nobody here argue.......but on a track it is faster and thats what counts when comparing how fast two cars are.....

It doesnt matter if you are the first one to the turn in, when you cant get thru the turn...... :wink:

I think it would depend greatly on the course and the conditions thereof as to whether the S4 could hold a candle to the M3. Granted, it is a very quick vehicle, but the weight bias and drivetrain are heavily in favor of understeer rather than neutral or slightly tail-happy handling...both of which tend to be characteristics of quick track-cars. In the real world in wet or icy weather I have no doubt that the S4's quattro drivetrain would pull it leagues ahead of an M3...more to the point, it would pull away from almost any vehicle this side of a Lancer EVO or a Subaru Impreza STi in those conditions. Anyway, I'd be curious to see the source of your S4-quickest track-times and what they were for that matter. I'm a fan of both, but the M3 has always plucked the heartstrings a little stronger for me except in terms of styling.

[Just_me]

you saying the M3 isnt a good handling car? ;)

I'd take the M3 over the S4 anyday - more fun ;)

i think we've been here before tho..... several times


LOL nope the M3 is a great handling car no doubt, and its loads of fun to drive too, but the fastes way around a bend is not going sideways and this is where the Audi is better in my opinion......


aha, so this is how the game works.
First you saying S4 is faster than M3, later you say its faster on a track and now this. What is the next, that S4 has better rims too :twisted:

[PeleProdigyGTO]

Seriously... LOL don't say a cars faster and then have other people post times proving you wrong, then just say it's better "In your opinion". WTF mate?

[adamk24]

I think the M3 is the faster car on both the drag strip and the road coarse. At least the american version of the s4 is alot heavier than our m3. :?

[Just_me]

[quote="brembo"]
@Just_me I didnt change my opinion or anything and if a car is faster around a track its faster in real life too.......

if you have troubble understanding this you are just beyond help....... :roll:
quote]

haha, Im starting to believe your reallife is a fantasy :twisted:

[ferrari550]

I think it looks great!!
But i think it looks like the new subaru legacy GT, anyone think so?

[budagboy2]

the front really looks great, i think the current rs4 looks fat and to rounded in the front

[Just_me]

haha, Im starting to believe your reallife is a fantasy :twisted:

the S4 *is* faster around a track. for sure.

yes for a driver that dont drive much on a track but for a pro a M3 got more potential and is also faster.
Audinerds like you and brembo disagree. But thats only casue you cant accept the truth.

[Sachmo12345]

that looks nice as hell i love the wheels

[Just_me]

haha, Im starting to believe your reallife is a fantasy :twisted:

the S4 *is* faster around a track. for sure.

yes for a driver that dont drive much on a track but for a pro a M3 got more potential and is also faster.
Audinerds like you and brembo disagree. But thats only casue you cant accept the truth.

i don't think neither Brembo or myself will dispute that the M3 is a great car and lots of fun.

and this argument could be turned around and i could call you a "bmwnerd in denial" just as easily.

my opinions are based off my experience on the track. S4s are just as tunable, if not MORE tunable than an M3. they do great on the track. Maybe you just haven't seen enough Audis :D

funny, you need to tune your car to beat a M3. Whatever, if it makes you feel better so fine by me.
I dont think we can go any further with this subject. You have your opinion , I have mine.

I dont have any grudge against Audi, I would choose audi over mercedes anyday but not BMW :wink:

[Just_me]

haha, Im starting to believe your reallife is a fantasy :twisted:

the S4 *is* faster around a track. for sure.

yes for a driver that dont drive much on a track but for a pro a M3 got more potential and is also faster.
Audinerds like you and brembo disagree. But thats only casue you cant accept the truth.

i don't think neither Brembo or myself will dispute that the M3 is a great car and lots of fun.

and this argument could be turned around and i could call you a "bmwnerd in denial" just as easily.

my opinions are based off my experience on the track. S4s are just as tunable, if not MORE tunable than an M3. they do great on the track. Maybe you just haven't seen enough Audis :D

funny, you need to tune your car to beat a M3. Whatever, if it makes you feel better so fine by me.
I dont think we can go any further with this subject. You have your opinion , I have mine.

I dont have any grudge against Audi, I would choose audi over mercedes anyday but not BMW :wink:

erm...i didn't say an S4 has to be tuned to beat an M3 on the track. a STOCK S4 can beat a STOCK M3...it happens all the time. Don't just make up stuff to cover your lack of knowledge ;)

and S4s definitely have more tuning potential :D

I have no lack of knowledge, so dont give me that BS.
Of course a S4 can beat a M3, the reason for that is the driver. A volvo S60R can also beat a ferrari.
you have your opininon, let's leave it there. you wont convience me and I wont convience you. Enuff said.

[chest3r]

I loved it. In black it looks very good. :o

The last RS4 was fantastic, I hope this version would be even better. But I will always prefer the M3. Rear traction has more fun than total traction 8)

[neilo63]

I want one now.. Hell nice

[DUNKiNUTS]

I think it looks great!!
But i think it looks like the new subaru legacy GT, anyone think so?

I see what you are talking about, but what you really need to think about it now that we know how fast the Legacy is, thats new compation for the S4, and the others.

[KaBlookie]

wow...simply wow...

i love it. it looks like a mini A8 with headlights remotely looking like those on the LeMans Quattro concept, the rear end kinda looks like the RS, and those wheels look kinda like the A8 sport wheels.

this design better make it on to the road! whether it's an RS4 or simply the new S4, they better make it.

[tata1234]

Sure the new RS4 will be a very fast car and probably will be much faster than the M3 or the M3 CSL, but it won't be able to compete with the new M3/M4 and it won't be able to see the M4 CSL.

[yg60m]

More infos on Autocar website :

http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=211652

[Sm@ck]

The RS4 will never be faster than an M3 CSL, around a track.

Remember it is not all about hp, you need to look at the weight too.


I just love the RS4 it is the perfect family car. imo

[acs power]

It will be very interesting: Audi launching new RS4, also rumors for RS3, and BMW 3 Series Coupe and M coming in 2006.

[Schwalbe]

For those who want to know which is the fastest car between an E46 M3 CSL and B5 RS4. Try this "Quarter mile simulator": http://www.jsread.com/tvr/quartermile.htm

[jon_s]

Link does not work anymore :cry:

[m3mys3lf4ndi]

shame :( propably server died coz of too much interest ;)

[Schwalbe]

Link does not work anymore :cry:

I don't understand it's OK for me. :?

[Schwalbe]

Here another pics of RS4 sedan.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/4529/audirs4g960x720.th.jpg (http://img124.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img124&image=audirs4g960x720.jpg)

[blah]

The RS4 will never be faster than an M3 CSL, around a track.

Remember it is not all about hp, you need to look at the weight too.


I just love the RS4 it is the perfect family car. imo


hmmm Im not sure about that my friend.....


AUDI Drivers will speak when spoken too. back to your cave...BACK!!! :P

[blah]

AUDI Drivers will speak when spoken too. back to your cave...BACK!!! :P


Ok I`ll park the Audi in the bat cave again then.... :P :wink:

youd understeer off a cliff.

[blah]

AUDI Drivers will speak when spoken too. back to your cave...BACK!!! :P


Ok I`ll park the Audi in the bat cave again then.... :P :wink:

youd understeer off a cliff.


LOL, how little you know earthling....... :P

you know its true. :P

[blah]

obviously PS, for we all know the AUDIS all wheel drive system would get confused and immediately understeer. :roll:

[blah]

obviously PS, for we all know the AUDIS all wheel drive system would get confused and immediately understeer. :roll:

LOL,people only use PS when they want to show how neutral the Bimmers are....... :lol:

This is quattro in all its glory powersliding with slicks........hmmm dream material....... :wink:

exactly merely a dream. Also PS is used to show Mercedes going through turns. 8)

[Schwalbe]

EVO Magazine: Thursday 4th November 2004

Final Tests For RS4

Audi is busy developing the new RS4 around the Nürburgring. The car in these pictures is thought to have a 'non-turbo' 4.2 V8 FSi engine producing around 425bhp.

However, there are rumours that Audi is also working on a 450bhp version, capable of lapping the old Nürburgring under the fabled 8-minute mark. Audi is preparing a seven-speed Tiptronic gearbox for the RS4, utilising its acclaimed DSG technology.
Extensive weight reduction is planned, with many aluminium panels. With deeper grilles and sills complemented by a small rear lip spoiler, the new car continues the traditional RS theme of subtle menace.
Expect deliveries of the saloon to commence some time in the middle of 2005 with Avant versions to follow.

[blah]

WHY THE HELL ARE THEY USING TIPTRONIC! GOD DAMNIT! This car needs to be manual period.

[Schwalbe]

WHY THE HELL ARE THEY USING TIPTRONIC! GOD DAMNIT! This car needs to be manual period.

I understand your disappointment blah, because me also I don't share the new direction of Quattro GmbH. Concerning the RS4, it's hard for me to accept the change between the turbocharged engine to the atmospheric V8. You can think the disappointment which I would have if it were only offered in Tiptronic version. :cry:

Personally the best RS4 ever will be always the B5 RS4. It's an icon just like the RS2. I keep hope that in the future Quattro GmbH will be more faithful to RS tradition. :wink:

[Wutputt]

Some extra spy shots:

http://img79.exs.cx/img79/8968/PICT0133.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0133.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2748/PICT0134.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0134.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/3391/PICT0136.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0136.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/7474/PICT0138.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0138.jpg)
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/5461/PICT0139.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0139.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/9748/PICT0140.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0140.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2258/PICT0148.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0148.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/1809/PICT0179.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0179.jpg)
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/8518/PICT0180.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0180.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/8701/PICT0181.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0181.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/820/PICT0182.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0182.jpg) http://img79.exs.cx/img79/1184/PICT0183.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT0183.jpg)
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/6584/PICT185.th.jpg (http://img79.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img79&image=PICT185.jpg)

[Schwalbe]

^^^^^^Cool new updates, thanks Wutputt for these pictures. :D

This Nogaro blue B7 RS4 sedan is near of the production model. The fender flares are wide and the front bumper is very aggressive, I like that.


Nevertheless, I prefer the Avant model like this B6 S4 Avant test mules. :wink:

http://img69.exs.cx/img69/3905/album_pic8.jpg

[DjPtsatsot]

More pictures in a new color :)



http://www.autoweek.nl/forum/read.php?f=12&i=60445&t=60445

http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041115.001/6041115.001.Mini1M.jpg
http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041115.001/6041115.001.1M.jpg

[Schwalbe]

^^^^^^More pictures in a new color :)

They are exactly the same pictures as those of Wutputt. See above. :roll:

[Schwalbe]

Auto Bild Test & Tuning Dezember 2004

Here two PS pictures that show how the next B7 RS4 Avant could be.

http://img106.exs.cx/img106/2664/RS4Avant2.jpg
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/2589/RS4Avant.jpg

[Schwalbe]

Another one ! :D

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3904/rs4.jpg

[ahmedgiyab]

The "new" A4 is a face lifted model or is it a new model?!

[bmwmpower]

thanks, but doesnt look good to me,

[Schwalbe]

The "new" A4 is a face lifted model or is it a new model?!

The new B7 A4 shares the same frame as the B6, but there is a lot of improvement especially about the engine. The text above summarizes the changes very well.

"The new A4 (internal code name: B7), succumbs to Audi's gaping maw grille, but at least the high style inside continues largely as before. In Europe, a staggering ten different engines are offered, including four diesels, but our engine count remains the same-two for the A4 and one for the S4. Both A4 powerplants are new and feature gasoline direct injection. The base 2.0-liter turbo four makes 197 horsepower (up from 170 hp for the current 1.8T), while the new 3.2-liter V-6 is good for 252 hp, easily bettering the 3.0-liter's 220 hp. The S4's 4.2-liter V-8 remains at 340 horsepower. Five-speed and six-speed manuals again are offered, with a CVT for front-wheel-drive models and a six-speed Tiptronic for Quattros. The new A4 sedan and Avant wagon should land on our shores in March-of 2005, that is-with the S4 to follow a month or so later."

[Silver Torch]

looks sexy!

[Sir_GT]

The design is really nice when you can't see the new grille. :D

[ikon2003]

I kind of like the new grille, maybe cuz it was taken right off the Nuvolari, which was just a sick, sick concept car. I also think there's some history in the shape of that grille, dating back to old audi racers, and the failed attempt to bring it back in the 90's with the Rosemeyer concept. I just hope that they can squeeze that V8 far enough back on that front axle to get a better balance....

[Wutputt]

Some extra pics of an Audi RS4 test car:

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/galleries/germanspy/images/rs4front.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/galleries/germanspy/images/rs4main.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/galleries/germanspy/images/rs4rear.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/galleries/germanspy/images/rs4rear2.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/galleries/germanspy/images/rs4side.jpg

[mindgam3]

Nice to see the return of the RS4 - looks like its gonna shape up to be a great car, especially with the new NA engine ;)

[Pimp Racer]

Looks badass in black!

[mv]

especially with the new NA engine ;)


HEY...stop that right now....... :x

no matter how disappointing the abandonment of FI engines might be for now i'm sure we'll get used to it.

[fultron]

RS4... cool

RS8???... Perhaps some M5 competition?
I think audi shoud throw there hat into the ring, perhaps use there W12 technology from the A8 to create the performance to compete with the M5?
Audi's Yacht already stands pretty comparable to BMW's 760i I would like to see some more competition for the upcoming m5.

[fultron]

the new m5? v10?

[fultron]

so what is the new rs6 have for projected HP?

[fultron]

480 horsepower?

[fultron]

show me your source

[fultron]

Well then you have no proof... moot point... Still my point stands, i want a four door rs8 that can compete with the new m5, challengers of the new m5 should prove it to me

[fultron]

i have a contact in the industry that sais the new honda civic will have competitive numbers with the ferrari enzo.........

[Schwalbe]

Well then you have no proof... moot point... Still my point stands, i want a four door rs8 that can compete with the new m5, challengers of the new m5 should prove it to me


i have a contact in the industry that sais the new honda civic will have competitive numbers with the ferrari enzo.........


Where do you go with these arguments ? :?

[fultron]

i was being sataristic, anyone can say they have a source in the industry, i just wanted facts...

[JoeHahn]

The A8 has nothing to do with the 5-series that is what the A6 is for. The A8 is a competitor for the S-Class Mercedes and the 7-series BMW.

[fultron]

ya ya i suppose this is true

[Schwalbe]

i was being sataristic, anyone can say they have a source in the industry, i just wanted facts...

Come on :roll:

It's a speculation game with the Industries...and some infos are true, other are not. Personally, I believe everso infos are in the first category. :wink:

I want to try me too....For my part, against the E60 M5, Audi is preparing the new 2006/2007 RS6 with the brand new FSI 5.2 litre V-10 bi-turbos (No Lambo engine's inside. Pure Audi motor !) and will provide 550-600 bhp. :twisted:

This is my forecast of the new engine of the future RS6 this week. :P

Stay tuned...

[Schwalbe]

^^^^ lol, They will be informed !

[fultron]

Yes Yes, i sounded pretty stupid. I was thinking the 6 series was competing with the audi rs6 and the 8's with the bmw 5 series. I should have figured that one out before opening my mouth. Oh well, doush bag, idiot, i have it coming to me. My apologies.

[mindgam3]

I want to try me too....For my part, against the E60 M5, Audi is preparing the new 2006/2007 RS6 with the brand new FSI 5.2 litre V-10 bi-turbos (No Lambo engine's inside. Pure Audi motor !) and will provide 550-600 bhp. :twisted:

This is my forecast of the new engine of the future RS6 this week. :P



Well the lambo V10 was based on the RS6 R45V V8 so even if they did base it on the lambo it would still be just about all audi :P

But anyway, i wouldnt be suprised if the new RS6 was NA considering thats the way they've gone with the RS4

[mv]

But anyway, i wouldnt be suprised if the new RS6 was NA considering thats the way they've gone with the RS4

In fact , an NA V10 was the initial plan as far as I know...So neither would I.

[Just_me]

udi RS4:
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8978/rs47ba.th.jpg (http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img125&image=rs47ba.jpg)

[Schwalbe]

Audi RS4:
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8978/rs47ba.th.jpg (http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img125&image=rs47ba.jpg)

Nice red Audi B7 RS4 sedan, The Avant model's will be really cool in red too. 8)