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mindgam3
10-13-2004, 10:07 AM
Im still grinning ;)

http://www.pistonheads.tv/video.asp?id=129
http://www.pistonheads.tv/video.asp?id=130

Mopsdrops
10-13-2004, 10:13 AM
Ow, woaw, thank you, can't wait to see the video, but i'm not a fan of montoya, thats for sure.

Ghostbat
10-13-2004, 10:23 AM
Very cool videos, thanks alot. To bad they're not right clickable..

marktak
10-13-2004, 10:27 AM
My god, this guy can drive like no one else!!

yg60m
10-13-2004, 10:32 AM
Thanks mate, DAP automatically propose me to save them :?: :wink:

cooperluke
10-13-2004, 10:35 AM
To bad they're not right clickable..



http://www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/129.wmv

http://www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/130.wmv

Flotch
10-13-2004, 11:38 AM
funny :lol: :mrgreen:

Knot
10-13-2004, 12:42 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

mindgam3
10-13-2004, 12:53 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

lol, i think "everytime" is not exactly true, i'd like to see you do tht kinda of drifting in a stock, comparatively heavy M5 :P

sameerrao
10-13-2004, 12:58 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

He was not intending to continue the drift! He is a racer not a drifter.

I liked the circuit one the best... its nice to see these guys in normal cars -the man is clearly supremely talented. The downshift and upshifts during the circuit run were pretty much undetectable - smooth. And nice precision there - the car seems to go from apex to apex as if on rails. We could also see the famous arm-twirling going on on the last corner prior to the chequered flag...

The only question I have is with regard to the date of the vid - I thought it would have been somewhere in end 2000 or 2001 or so as he hadn't joined them then. Unless of course he was a testdriver for Williams then ... Maybe that is it!

I think Montoya is supremely talented - he would do better if he let his mind and not heart control him. He is an easy target for mindgames by others (Erm not you mindgam3)

Knot
10-13-2004, 01:01 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

lol, i think "everytime" is not exactly true, i'd like to see you do tht kinda of drifting in a stock, comparatively heavy M5 :P

In that car, it's much easyer with LSD, loads op power and loads of grip... comparing it to my 129bhp e30 320i....

sameerrao
10-13-2004, 01:07 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

lol, i think "everytime" is not exactly true, i'd like to see you do tht kinda of drifting in a stock, comparatively heavy M5 :P

In that car, it's much easyer with LSD, loads op power and loads of grip... comparing it to my 129bhp e30 320i....

If you are that good ... why dont you do the same thing as him on the circuit and let us see the vid - LOL

Schwalbe
10-13-2004, 01:11 PM
Thanks for the link mindgam3, I always liked the E39 M5 !

Ghostbat
10-13-2004, 05:22 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

lol, i think "everytime" is not exactly true, i'd like to see you do tht kinda of drifting in a stock, comparatively heavy M5 :P

In that car, it's much easyer with LSD, loads op power and loads of grip... comparing it to my 129bhp e30 320i....

If you are that good ... why dont you do the same thing as him on the circuit and let us see the vid - LOL

Maybe should pay some attention to the vids Knot has posted..

ingko
10-13-2004, 06:21 PM
Thanks for the vids mindgam3.....finally i see vids of my favorite f1 driver in a normal car around a track.

sameerrao
10-13-2004, 07:13 PM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

lol, i think "everytime" is not exactly true, i'd like to see you do tht kinda of drifting in a stock, comparatively heavy M5 :P

In that car, it's much easyer with LSD, loads op power and loads of grip... comparing it to my 129bhp e30 320i....

If you are that good ... why dont you do the same thing as him on the circuit and let us see the vid - LOL

Maybe should pay some attention to the vids Knot has posted..

LOL - I knew this would come back to haunt me but I was refering to lap of Brands Hatch and not the parking lot shenanigans :P

kksh
10-13-2004, 11:36 PM
Try this link to download them.

http://www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/129.wmv

http://www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/130.wmv

homemade wrx
10-14-2004, 12:36 AM
great vids!!
he hits the blinker in one of them...lol

kksh
10-14-2004, 01:25 AM
IMO, Tiff does a better job of holding an M5 on a slide. Ever seen the top gear clip where they were competing at the Autocar slide contest? Gavin Fisher or something from Lotus is the king of slides. F1 and rally stars drive cars fast. Not hold them on big power slides. I heard this one time Damon Hill saying that he can't hold a car on a power slide like Tiff.

SPEEDCORE
10-14-2004, 04:36 AM
Like him or hate him he is a good driver, but that can be said for all the F1 drivers(well cept Pizzonia when he rolled the jag hahaha)

sameerrao
10-14-2004, 04:45 AM
IMO, Tiff does a better job of holding an M5 on a slide. Ever seen the top gear clip where they were competing at the Autocar slide contest? Gavin Fisher or something from Lotus is the king of slides. F1 and rally stars drive cars fast. Not hold them on big power slides. I heard this one time Damon Hill saying that he can't hold a car on a power slide like Tiff.

Well sliding an F1 car is not the fast way around a circuit. To maximise the available aero grip you need to keep the car as straight as possible. Having the rear wing at an oblique angle to the actual direction of travel will kill the aero downforce.

Other racing cars with lower downforce requirements are not affected as much by this - therefore you may see more sliding.

So F1 drivers have no real practice at sliding about. They need to be judged on how quickly they demolish a lap around a circuit and not for stunt driving...

I read that drifting test sometime back where they had the 1979 F1 WDC -Jody Schecter, someone from BTCC and other sportscar background... Gavin Fisher (development driver for Lotus) won pretty easily.

There was a similar test done in the US with a Viper and Porsche 996 in the wet and dry skidpad. Participants included Boris Said (sportcars), someone from Champcars and IRL (Scott Speed?), a drifting champion, a Brit who participates in the US version of WRC, and a motoring journalist.

The drifter won and the motoring journo came third. The rally guy came in second and the open wheel racers came in at the tail end of the pack :)

Knot
10-14-2004, 04:54 AM
If you are that good ... why dont you do the same thing as him on the circuit and let us see the vid - LOL

If someone has an E39 M5 to do a bit of drifting, it will be no problem...

What my point is, the topic starter should post "does some drifts" not "great car control"....

mindgam3
10-14-2004, 07:22 AM
Lol, he was just having a fuck about round a course, he just wanted to show off n have some fun... it wasnt anything serious. If you've got better car control than montoya then why aren't you in F1? :P

I admit that maybe "great car control" wasnt the most approriate phrase to use, but he does have a few drifts where he holds it for a long time, but as i said, it was jus him fucking about n burning rubber :roll:

Knot
10-14-2004, 07:26 AM
Lol, he was just having a fuck about round a course, he just wanted to show off n have some fun... it wasnt anything serious. If you've got better car control than montoya then why aren't you in F1? :P

I admit that maybe "great car control" wasnt the most approriate phrase to use, but he does have a few drifts where he holds it for a long time, but as i said, it was jus him fucking about n burning rubber :roll:

A drift is a few times sideways, not just getting the tail out and then going straight again......

But ok, he was just messing around and having fun.

And yes, i got beter "drifting" car control than montoya ;)

bmwmpower
10-14-2004, 07:26 AM
nice control, thanks man,

Vansquish
10-18-2004, 11:25 PM
Montoya is quite talented, he's just too prissy to be the top of the top. Tiff and Gavin Kershaw are far better at powersliding smoothly though. The fastest way around a track is not on the lock stops...so Montoya isn't best in that situation. Kershaw and Needell are much better.

Skaala
10-19-2004, 03:03 PM
nice vid, seems like he's got a williams suit on.....

Dave1
10-23-2004, 05:13 PM
I heard this one time Damon Hill saying that he can't hold a car on a power slide like Tiff


I'm sure Damon Hill could it just as well if he spent as much time doing it as Needle does. He also has the luxury of something called “editing”. You’re right though, test drivers (like the one at Lotus) are very good at holding cars in slides, because they spend all day doing it. Bastards! :x

Great videos. always like watching famous racing drivers drive road cars.

caneswell
10-25-2004, 07:40 AM
Hardly shows great car control. The track stuff is probably a bit more impressive, but you can't tell from the video. He's just spinning in the car park bit, not showing any great control. I'm sure he's an exceptional driver, but most drifting videos on the net show better car control than that!

Attie
10-25-2004, 09:20 AM
This is not a very nice tyre smokeing :(
I don't like Montoya. He is everytime aggressive :x
He just push the gas pedal in this video and steer left to right and right to left whatever will be, will be...

The second vid is better :)

Attie
10-25-2004, 09:22 AM
Hey Dave1!
Nice avatar!!

jon_s
10-25-2004, 10:19 AM
2nd vid is of Brands!! My local track :D It is where I first drove a car in anger, and where I visit tack days e.t.c.....................not sure I could beat JPM though lol

Robygt
10-25-2004, 10:41 AM
Good videos, thx...

callen
10-25-2004, 11:55 AM
cool vids, nice to see JP having some fun in the M5, he did get a few good drifts in the parking lot vid. other than that it was pretty cool to see him do his thing.

undien717
10-25-2005, 06:44 PM
I think he wasn't intending to drift in the beginning of the video. He just wanted to burn some rubber just like the end of the video. I'm sure he could drift well if he wanted to. F1 drivers are the best drivers in the world, so I wouldn't doubt their abilities.

ingko
10-27-2005, 11:13 PM
Looks like a man just having some fun in a fun car. Nothing more.

Go Monty in 06!

SFDMALEX
10-27-2005, 11:21 PM
Bahhh,,,,,,,,,,I can do much better, both parking lot and track :roll: :wink:

Banchi105
10-28-2005, 09:51 AM
Cool Video.
Wish my car could lay down that much smoke!

Surprised to see that Montoya knows how to use a clutch... :twisted:

chest3r
10-28-2005, 10:22 AM
excellent driving!! :o

Nice videos! :D it's great to see F1 drivers having fun in normal cars!! :P Thanks!!

It would be nice to see these guys driving cars in TVshows like TG and 5th Gear :wink:

samer_el_dally
10-28-2005, 10:40 AM
Eh.... "Great car control"????

He spin's everytime, instead of keeping te drift going.....

:shock:

I totally agree with you, watch this video for a local driver here in Egypt (My Country) driving simillar car: http://s58.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NGAUX2VZN0F233B1L0X6LSRE5

hwe
10-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Now that's great car control !

samer_el_dally
10-30-2005, 05:55 PM
I have a lot of videos for him, his name is: Ramy Serry, if you are intersted i can upload them for you.

Banchi105
10-30-2005, 06:17 PM
Yes, but please start a new thread for them. 8)

samer_el_dally
10-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Fine, but would you please tell me a better free hosting site better than www.yousendit.com ?

samer_el_dally
10-30-2005, 07:03 PM
well, thanks for the site, i am uploading a new video for him now, it is 38 mega, i will post the link as soon as i get it

samer_el_dally
10-30-2005, 07:42 PM
finally here it is: http://rapidshare.de/files/6983624/R_Serry.wmv.html , Enjoy

samer_el_dally
10-30-2005, 08:06 PM
and stop writting in red!! :roll:

lol, all the members are writing in red now :twisted:

Banchi105
10-30-2005, 10:01 PM
finally here it is: http://rapidshare.de/files/6983624/R_Serry.wmv.html , Enjoy

Hey man. Start your own thread for this video and I bet it will get alot more exposure!

samer_el_dally
10-31-2005, 04:37 AM
Here we go bro. :)
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=553153#553153

crayzayjay
11-01-2005, 03:42 PM
Sweet ass clips :D