Your 1/4 mile times

[Pokiou]

Hi guys.. just wanting to know what qauter mile drag times u guys have got at the tracks..

i got a 13.9@106mph.. on stock boost... which is pretty good as its only 7psi or 0.6 bar...so ill be crankking it up and trying to his low 13's

what about you guys ??

[nthfinity]

im guessing 16-17's as my 60 time arives in about the mid 9 second range. my car in my sig.
ill out haul you, and accellerate faster in 'inclamate' condidtions tho :P :wink:

[sentra_dude]

Umm, sorry if I missed a post somewhere else where you told us what kind of car you drive...but what kind of car do you drive?

I pull 17s I think...lol

[T-Bird]

well I've never taken my car up there and I wouldn't expect too much out of ti in it's current state having 170K miles on it's tranny, but I plan on some major improvements soon :wink:

I did run a low 12 ina friends Roush 360R which isn't that impressive but it was the first time I drove the car.

[DUNKiNUTS]

My truck is around high 16s as of now, give me two-three months i will hit high 15s :D

[ZfrkS62]

Umm, sorry if I missed a post somewhere else where you told us what kind of car you drive...but what kind of car do you drive?

I pull 17s I think...lol

he drives a 180sx. check out the accident again thread.


guys i'm sorry but without timeslips, i'm thinkin someone is gonna come in here sayin they run 9's in a Civic, when in reality they run a 23 in their mom's minivan. just my opinion.

[T-Bird]

shit there's a van at my local track that runs low 9 with passengers and groceries in it seriously the thing has an insane Turbo Deseil in it, there are older vids around but now he runs faster.

[ZfrkS62]

it surprised me at first how fast a diesel could go, but then i thought about the energy of diesel vs gas and wasn't so shocked.

[ZfrkS62]

!!!!oh and dont ever sleep on a diesel engined car, biggest mistake youll make!!!!


where did anyone say they slept on one?

[Pokiou]

yes ronin005 u can stick your granny on a course and watch her go around the track also .. im not talking about your ablility to go around corners. . im talking about the ability of your car.. how quick it accelerates.. going around a track in a car taht car accelerate isnt fun is it ??? but a car that ca get to 200km in only 400 meters now thats exciting. !!! and being able to take that around a track is impressive.. now sperating the boys and the men isnt as easy as who piss's further.

[greg.little]

Acceleration seems to be the American ethos to life, eg taking the Corvette (loud and fast in a straight line) and then modify it to go faster but not modifying the suspension so it can still spin when parked.

Look how many truly great american sports cars there are that could out handle a european one, 1 or 2? Lets face it the space shuttle has great engines, wild acceleration and ludicrous top speed but she won't turn corners for shit.

Acceleration is only about money. The more money you throw at an engine the more power it will produce, the lower the drag time. Obviously there is a limit to how far you can go and that is where the drag strip comes in, to test who has spent lots of money in the best way.

Tirade over, who's up to flame me first.

LOL 8)

[ZfrkS62]

no flaming coming from this corner. while the drag strip is entertaing to see raw power, most of us here at JW prefer road racing. Quite few F1 and WRC nuts around here. I see this is your first post so let me be the first to welcome you to JW and thank you for not wasting your JW cherry on pointless drivel :wink:

and yes, you have a point, there are not many Detroit bred machines that have stuck it to the Europeans. Corvette, GT40 and Viper to rattle off a few (although i wouldn't bank quite so much on the Viper). Our heritage seems to be either in a straight line or getting dizzy ona circle track :wink:

[greg.little]

Thanks for the welcome.

I used to be a small oval fan before they closed my local circuit down (Aldershot UK). Since then I have turned my attention to local rallying events and Rallycross. F1 is snoozeworthy these days and the WRC coverage on terestrial TV is pitiful.

I would agree with GT40 and Viper, but the corvette is pushing the mark a little, better the Cobra? Scary but entertaining.
:shock:

[Anile8er]

crx with b18b = 14's :roll:

[Evo]

9 sec on my banshee on reverse gear. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

[homemade wrx]

I can run a 12.9 now with my WRX engine swap with utec stage 2.
take it easy, Micah

[RC45]

Acceleration seems to be the American ethos to life, eg taking the Corvette (loud and fast in a straight line) and then modify it to go faster but not modifying the suspension so it can still spin when parked.

Do you even know what you are talking about? The "modification" that allows you to "spin when parked" is more engine power.. ;) Our cars do it when bone stock... :P


Look how many truly great american sports cars there are that could out handle a european one, 1 or 2?

7:56 around Nurburgring pretty much puts the lowest cost US sports car soundly at the top of it's peer list for the time period.


Lets face it the space shuttle has great engines, wild acceleration and ludicrous top speed but she won't turn corners for shit.

Because it does'nt need to.... much like the a double decker bus or an arctic.. right? :roll:


Acceleration is only about money. The more money you throw at an engine the more power it will produce, the lower the drag time. Obviously there is a limit to how far you can go and that is where the drag strip comes in, to test who has spent lots of money in the best way.

So - are you for or against acceleraiton tests Mr Kerry? :)


Tirade over, who's up to flame me first.

If you actually had some valid points - it would be more fun.


I would agree with GT40 and Viper, but the corvette is pushing the mark a little, better the Cobra? Scary but entertaining.
:shock:

Here we go again... :roll:

Provide your proof (and the over sized oaf with the Kevin Kegan hairdo doesn't count) that a Corvette cannot dominate the road course world...

I am guessing you have never watched LeMans in the last 5 years - or seen Z06's at track days or been strapped into the passenger seat of one ;)

It is amazing how people will allow and give credit to Ferrari and Porsche etal for improving their cars year after year - and acknowledge that the cars improve and mature over time - yet will simply quote a Corvette from 1985 as the only valid comparison... :P

But then again, I guess it only makes the victory sweeter when we are able to soundly whip em at the strip, on the street and even round the bends... ;)

[greg.little]

I think possibly you misunderstand me, the slur was that you can park a corvette, go into a shop and when you come out it is facing the other way.

Wheelspins don't take that much skill, look at an Essex cruise to see evidence of that.

The shuttle was an aside, not meant to be held up as a benchmark for handling but the fact that the americans really know how to build engines.

I have no personal experience with Corvettes admittedly, but a colleague of mine owned one until it nearly killed him.

As you moved to track cars, the last time I looked at CART racing 95%+ of the cars were designed and built in the UK. We can design great cars, we just can't mass produce them profitably.

Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega.

This brings me to the question no-one (until now possibly) can give me a satisfactory answer to. If american domestic cars are so good, why don't more get sold in Europe. I know about jeep, the limited success of the Chrysler Voyager/Neon's and the mighty Viper, any more?

A Porsche fan I am not. The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that?

[RC45]

I think possibly you misunderstand me, the slur was that you can park a corvette, go into a shop and when you come out it is facing the other way.

Wheelspins don't take that much skill, look at an Essex cruise to see evidence of that.

The shuttle was an aside, not meant to be held up as a benchmark for handling but the fact that the americans really know how to build engines.

I have no personal experience with Corvettes admittedly, but a colleague of mine owned one until it nearly killed him.

As you moved to track cars, the last time I looked at CART racing 95%+ of the cars were designed and built in the UK. We can design great cars, we just can't mass produce them profitably.

Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega.

This brings me to the question no-one (until now possibly) can give me a satisfactory answer to. If american domestic cars are so good, why don't more get sold in Europe. I know about jeep, the limited success of the Chrysler Voyager/Neon's and the mighty Viper, any more?

A Porsche fan I am not. The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that?

This is a thread about 1/4 mile times.. so let's not get too far off topic.

Your response above is so full of trash and factual flaws I have to assume this is a bogus logon that Jabba created to try test me.. ;)

No-one single human could have such a vacuous cranium as you are displaying.. :P

If however, you are in fact a real person - bring your arse over to the American forum and get yourself owned.. :)

[ZfrkS62]

I think possibly you misunderstand me, the slur was that you can park a corvette, go into a shop and when you come out it is facing the other way.

Wheelspins don't take that much skill, look at an Essex cruise to see evidence of that.

The shuttle was an aside, not meant to be held up as a benchmark for handling but the fact that the americans really know how to build engines.

I have no personal experience with Corvettes admittedly, but a colleague of mine owned one until it nearly killed him.

As you moved to track cars, the last time I looked at CART racing 95%+ of the cars were designed and built in the UK. We can design great cars, we just can't mass produce them profitably.

Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega.

This brings me to the question no-one (until now possibly) can give me a satisfactory answer to. If american domestic cars are so good, why don't more get sold in Europe. I know about jeep, the limited success of the Chrysler Voyager/Neon's and the mighty Viper, any more?

A Porsche fan I am not. The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that?

This is a thread about 1/4 mile times.. so let's not get too far off topic.

Your response above is so full of trash and factual flaws I have to assume this is a bogus logon that Jabba created to try test me.. ;)

No-one single human could have such a vacuous cranium as you are displaying.. :P

If however, you are in fact a real person - bring your arse over to the American forum and get yourself owned.. :)



If you're looking for an intelligent answer from RC45 you're going to be looking for awhile. He's more of an antagonist than anything. :roll:

I understood your point about the Space Shuttle, and thanks for the compliment. I have been pretty partial to American V8s for quite awhile

LA is one of the most insanely expensive places to live in the US. Every celebrity here has a multi-million dollar home in the LA suburbs and can afford to stuff a Ferrari, Bently or Rolls-Royce in their garage.

I really can't explain why American muscle isn't more popular in Europe. My guess would be the cost of shipping them over there would push their price up to what a European car is here. But then again the Vette and basic 5 series are around the same price bracket. Or maybe it's the lack of creature comforts the Corvette or Mustang offer when compared to BMW, AUDI or Mercedes. I don't know what customers in Europe look for compared to what customers look for here, so i can't give you an answer. :wink:

[RC45]

I think possibly you misunderstand me, the slur was that you can park a corvette, go into a shop and when you come out it is facing the other way.

Wheelspins don't take that much skill, look at an Essex cruise to see evidence of that.

The shuttle was an aside, not meant to be held up as a benchmark for handling but the fact that the americans really know how to build engines.

I have no personal experience with Corvettes admittedly, but a colleague of mine owned one until it nearly killed him.

As you moved to track cars, the last time I looked at CART racing 95%+ of the cars were designed and built in the UK. We can design great cars, we just can't mass produce them profitably.

Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega.

This brings me to the question no-one (until now possibly) can give me a satisfactory answer to. If american domestic cars are so good, why don't more get sold in Europe. I know about jeep, the limited success of the Chrysler Voyager/Neon's and the mighty Viper, any more?

A Porsche fan I am not. The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that?

This is a thread about 1/4 mile times.. so let's not get too far off topic.

Your response above is so full of trash and factual flaws I have to assume this is a bogus logon that Jabba created to try test me.. ;)

No-one single human could have such a vacuous cranium as you are displaying.. :P

If however, you are in fact a real person - bring your arse over to the American forum and get yourself owned.. :)



If you're looking for an intelligent answer from RC45 you're going to be looking for awhile. He's more of an antagonist than anything. :roll:

I understood your point about the Space Shuttle, and thanks for the compliment. I have been pretty partial to American V8s for quite awhile

LA is one of the most insanely expensive places to live in the US. Every celebrity here has a multi-million dollar home in the LA suburbs and can afford to stuff a Ferrari, Bently or Rolls-Royce in their garage.

I really can't explain why American muscle isn't more popular in Europe. My guess would be the cost of shipping them over there would push their price up to what a European car is here. But then again the Vette and basic 5 series are around the same price bracket. Or maybe it's the lack of creature comforts the Corvette or Mustang offer when compared to BMW, AUDI or Mercedes. I don't know what customers in Europe look for compared to what customers look for here, so i can't give you an answer. :wink:

This is a thread about 1/4 mile times... lets not get to far off topic.

I am sure you are aware that Opel and Holden are GM companies - so what that would have to do with the Mustang please tell us?

[DUNKiNUTS]

A SVT cobra will own most euro cars. I handle well and crushes them in the 1/4 mile. The viper is about power, vette budget busters, but when a 30K Mustang will own a Ferrari in the 1/4, the is American pride :D

[ZfrkS62]

A SVT cobra will own most euro cars. I handle well and crushes them in the 1/4 mile. The viper is about power, vette budget busters, but when a 30K Mustang will own a Ferrari in the 1/4, the is American pride :D

A) only the US is so obsessed with 1/4 mile times.
B) the SVT mustang will NOT "own" the M5 or CGT or (as much as it pains me to say this) the E55.
C) Ferrari's are not built with a 1300' strip of concrete i mind. Neither are any of the European cars for that matter. they are built the the track in mind.

Last i saw, a Cobra SVT was no where near an ALMS podium finish, or even an endurance race like 12 hrs of Sebring or the Daytona 24hr race.

[T-Bird]

you take the cash you save buying a new Cobra over an M5 or E55 and invest it into the car and you will be tearing the 1/4 up in 9-8 sec. easy $20k and a Mustang = amzing things (either road racing or drag racing) Go to Kenny Brown they build some really good Track cars from Cobras.

[ZfrkS62]

as a previous thread proved though, with enough time and money you could make a clown car rip up a track.

[DUNKiNUTS]

you could put the cost diff into the turning ablities of the Cobra and own them some more

[ZfrkS62]

the cobra won't out handle an M5. i don't care what you do to it. where the suspension gives out, traction control takes over. and unless your cobra handles 1.2g on the skidpad, you will NOT be owning anything.

[ZfrkS62]

thanks for the clarification brembo. hopefully that helps anyone else who might have been wondering the same thing :wink:

[DUNKiNUTS]

the cobra won't out handle an M5. i don't care what you do to it. where the suspension gives out, traction control takes over. and unless your cobra handles 1.2g on the skidpad, you will NOT be owning anything.

ummm there is a well know car called the Cobra R. The stock Cobra R get 1g on the skidpad, and has near 400h.p. so you still want to argue

[ZfrkS62]

yeah, like i said 1.2g for the M5 AND over 500hp. More grip in the corners, and more punch in the straights. plus built in shift lights let you know when you've hit optimal shift so you can smack the paddle consistently in the sweet spot and be right back in the power. and in case you want to get a little throttle happy, the Drag Torque Reduction feature of the M5's DSC system will keep the engine from spinning the wheels and causing your ass end to try and play tag with the front end. Something your Cobra R isn't smart enough to do.

Even if you took the saved money and tuned the car, you would still not have the ammenities of the M5. your teeth are going to rattle out of your skull because of the suspension stiffening, your arms are going to fall off from having to whip the steering wheel more than 2 revolutions whereas the M5 is going to go lock to lock in 1.6 (not sure if the AFS has been refined from the current E60 for the M)
and do we even have to get into the NA vs FI debate again?

the M5 is a better car off the showroom floor PERIOD. Go ahead and tune it all you want. In the end you'll still end up spending more money than if you ahd just bought the M5.

[gottacatchup]

the cobra won't out handle an M5. i don't care what you do to it. where the suspension gives out, traction control takes over. and unless your cobra handles 1.2g on the skidpad, you will NOT be owning anything.

ummm there is a well know car called the Cobra R. The stock Cobra R get 1g on the skidpad, and has near 400h.p. so you still want to argue

the cobra R is slower around a track then an Elise, doesnt matter how much power you get out of it our even if you change the entire rear end, it wont out handle and M5

[ZfrkS62]

hmm...wonder who's gettin owned now... :lol:

[coloradosilver]

12.52 sec @ 118 mph (stock tires = no traction in 1st) in my corvette :mrgreen:

Oh, thats at 6020 ft. Altitude.

[skituner]

The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

i think that you are only person i the world that thinks that

btw im an american and generaly i dont like american cars. i just dont understand my fellow contry men. for instance NASCAR is the most popular sport; thats just sad.
i wish i could move to europe

[ZfrkS62]

The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

i think that you are only person i the world that thinks that

btw im an american and generaly i dont like american cars. i just dont understand my fellow contry men. for instance NASCAR is the most popular sport; thats just sad.
i wish i could move to europe

any other americans want to go in on a group buy for airline tickets?! maybe an apartment complex too....

[initiala4]

The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices.

i think that you are only person i the world that thinks that

btw im an american and generaly i dont like american cars. i just dont understand my fellow contry men. for instance NASCAR is the most popular sport; thats just sad.
i wish i could move to europe

I hear you about nascar...i also think its a boring sport. Its like seeing cars going in circles and circles....it could be challenging going at speeds like that, but wouldnt you feel like...damn it i gotta keep turnim left and left and left again.

[ZfrkS62]

you would think they'd be dizzy after 3 laps

IRL isn't much better. they go even faster around some of the same tracks.

[DUNKiNUTS]

hmm...wonder who's gettin owned now... :lol:

Not really, power to weight is important. But what track is it faster, a tigh one or a long open one. Please but the cost difference and my Ranger would be euros around a track. Or a Z06 even though i don't like them. But its all in the track. So its not a win its a draw.

One thing you forgot with you quote......a picture
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/7128/8969racist-legos-owned.jpg

[RC45]

the cobra won't out handle an M5. i don't care what you do to it. where the suspension gives out, traction control takes over. and unless your cobra handles 1.2g on the skidpad, you will NOT be owning anything.

ummm there is a well know car called the Cobra R. The stock Cobra R get 1g on the skidpad, and has near 400h.p. so you still want to argue

the cobra R is slower around a track then an Elise, doesnt matter how much power you get out of it our even if you change the entire rear end, it wont out handle and M5

Guys - if you are going to argue please get your facts straight.

The 2000 Cobra-R was basically a normally aspirated TransAm series car for the streets... including a very expensive IR-suspension.

It is also a very serious car - and being track-tuned will outhandle many many cars of it's day and newer.

In short the 2000 Cobra-R can run and gun with the Z06 (remember this ran a 7:56 at Nuburgring) and the Viper GTS-ACR, another race-track tuned car.

[RC45]

What RC try to say all the time when fighting for his precious vette is it is cheap for what he gets, and by that he mean performance.... engine and handling, the NS times the vette got proves its a fast car.....no doubt.
What he fail to realize in the US vs Euro car discussion is its only in the US the vette is cheap, here its a expensive car and the prize doesnt justify what you get.......

If I where to pay the amount a brand new vette cost, I would buy something different and get quallity along with the fast ride.

I realize EXACTLY what the car costs in Europe... and don't give a crap - because I am here, not there.

In the meantime I get t enjoy a car that runs and guns with the uber-expensive shit - but don't spend uber-money. :)

But as proven by the many wealthy Europeans who import the Z06 - they know what they are getting... an alternative to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche performance - and enjoy it as such. :)

Afterall, we are performance enthusiasts, not fashion designers.. ;)

[ZfrkS62]

RC you seem to be slipping in your response times :lol:

and i didn't say the cobra r was crap, i just said that it wouldn't be owning any european cars.


Not really, power to weight is important. But what track is it faster, a tigh one or a long open one. Please but the cost difference and my Ranger would be euros around a track. Or a Z06 even though i don't like them. But its all in the track. So its not a win its a draw.


WTF?! are you changing the subject you little clansman? I thought you were talking about the Cobra against any European car. where the hell did the Z-06 get pulled into this? And i thought it's been well established that any track times mentioned for comparison were going to be set on the NS!
But if you want to get universal, the M5 will still mop up a track like Infineion (aka Sears Point) and then go out to Watkins Glen and DESTROY the Cobra's laptimes. Just for shits and giggles, lets throw in Laguna Seca, Portland International, and Road Atlanta was well.
Then we can go overseas and attack Monza, Silverstone, Hungoraring and oh, i dunno, maybe SpaFrancorchamps as well.
The only american car i would worry about hanging with the BMW is the Corvette. C5-R, Z-06 or even the C6. IMO, the 'Vette is the only car that has proven itself to be a threat in the GTS category.

And power to weight gets factored in when you are talking about cars that are evenly matched in the numbers. NOT when there is a 100HP difference.

and if you want to talk about balance...well i think it goes with out saying that the M5 is balanced MUCH more evenly than the Cobra. Tuning on the NS is much more effective than any test course/proving ground Ford uses over here.

[greg.little]

Oh god, what beast have I unleashed?!

Anyone know the strip time for a stock Volvo 940 2.0 Turbo? (Wifes car)

[T-Bird]

what's the weight and hp?
I can tell you then...

[ZfrkS62]

Oh god, what beast have I unleashed?!


don't worry greg, debates like this take place all over JW. It's one of the things that makes it interesting.

[Pokiou]

can some please tell me your 1/4 mile times.. i dont care if u like them or not .. if u havnt got a 1/4 mile time .. take your arguments else where ... im intrested in what times people acheive around the world .... jesus jabba tell them something .. :/

[mindgam3]

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33104&page=1

looks like someone was happy with their stock 360 (8:10 on the nordschliefe?) even though they've owned a M5, Z06 and Z8 ;)

Its not all about the lap times and specs RC :P

[RC45]

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33104&page=1

looks like someone was happy with their stock 360 (8:10 on the nordschliefe?) even though they've owned a M5, Z06 and Z8 ;)

Its not all about the lap times and specs RC :P

Well - considering the persons list has both an M5 and a Z8 - neither of which are the the quickest of cars - but rather lethargic status symbols.. it is not surprising that he swapped the faster Z06 for a slower 360 - he naturally congregated towards slow status symbols anyway :)

BTW - what is the reason for trying to derail this 1/4 mile topic again?

Please keep the discussion on topic.

[RC45]

ROFLMAO.........Says the king of off topic talk...... :lol:

Well - how else can I retain that title unless I scare pretenders off.. :P



But as proven by the many wealthy Europeans who import the Z06 - they know what they are getting... an alternative to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche performance - and enjoy it as such. :)

LOL the Vette will never be a alternative for neither of those cars, as they are so much more than the vette in so many ways...

As I pointed out - an alternative to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche performance... performance... performance...

I know you have a unhealthy look at your own car but comon dude it doesnt matter how many times you say it or how much you belive it.....the Vette will NEVER be compared to the cars mentioned in a seriuos way...... :lol:

Well - again, the wealthy Europeans importing the Z06's seem to contradict and disagree with you... :)


I for one are a car enthusiast and when it comes to cars that brings that good feeling it needs the design part too.

The typical response from a driver of a slow car that has placed the "exotics" on a pedestal - and refuses to acknowledge the existence of performance alternatives and thus goes through life stuck with slow boring cars - never experiencing the real deal.. :P ;)

[RC45]

The typical response from a driver of a slow car that has placed the "exotics" on a pedestal - and refuses to acknowledge the existence of performance alternatives and thus goes through life stuck with slow boring cars - never experiencing the real deal.. :P ;)

LOL you dont know much do you.......its kind of cute how you cuddle your self into your own little world thinking the vette is the gift to the fast car market.......I know what a fast car feels like........ :wink:

In no way do I feel the Z06 is anyone's gift to anything... except a way for a regular person to daily experience $120,000+ performance.

I never pretended it was anything else - simply stating that many, many people would stupidly rather spite themselves and NOT experience real performance in their own driveway, because they refuse to admit that you don't have to cut a cheque to an exotic car company to get a super car stop, go, turn package.

[RC45]

LOL you dont know much do you.......its kind of cute how you cuddle your self into your own little world thinking the vette is the gift to the fast car market.......I know what a fast car feels like........ :wink:

LOL.

I've learned to simply laugh at/ignore RC45s posts...because they really don't have much content. They are simply a means to try and make himself feel better by putting others down. Not very "mature" for a 36 year old or whatever isn't it? He must be REALLY bored. LOL.

If you bothered to lower yourself from your white horse long enough to actually comprehend the simple english written you would notice that EVERYTHING and ANYTHING automotive posted is not only factual and accurate - but also similar to views shared by thousands of enthusiasts the world over.

I am still waiting for a single fact I have ever posted to be countered with an opposing fact (rather than shallow opinion)

And so much for not hijacking this guys 1/4 mile thread.

[RC45]

I am still waiting for a single fact I have ever posted to be countered with an opposing fact (rather than shallow opinion)


It have been done, but when its done you seem to loose interest in those topics......

You know them yourself, so I cant be bothered to dig them up again...... :wink:

Nope - those were never factual responses - but rather opinions parading as facts.

Something the glassy-eyed exotic fan-club does naturally.. :)


BTW: the vette have never been regarded a supercar....... :wink:
In you ropinion: :D

0-60 in 4s.

1G skidpad.

1/4 mile in 12s @ 118mph

280km/h top speed.

60-0 in 100 odd feet.

7:56 Nurgurgring on stock rubber.

Pretty much the measure of a supercar in anyones books - by no means exotic - no-one ever claimed it was.

But we in the Z06 community are used to this.. :P doesn't matter :lol: :)

[ZfrkS62]

RC you give your Z06 too much credit. that was the C6 that ran a 7:56. your precious precious Z-06 tied with the Z8:

8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000)
8:18 --- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (09/2003)

and that was 3 years later. it also tied with the Ferrari F355 6 years after it ran.

there is also a slew of Lamborghinis, Porches, Ferraris and BMWs WAY ahead of you.
7:06 for an M3GTR.

ok, you did beat the E39M5 by 10 seconds, i'll give you that.

i'll even post the link to the subject that all these times are from:

http://motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17172&start=0

6th post down, posted by tigerx

so much for owning European cars :wink:

[RC45]

LOL you dont know much do you.......its kind of cute how you cuddle your self into your own little world thinking the vette is the gift to the fast car market.......I know what a fast car feels like........ :wink:

LOL.

I've learned to simply laugh at/ignore RC45s posts...because they really don't have much content. They are simply a means to try and make himself feel better by putting others down. Not very "mature" for a 36 year old or whatever isn't it? He must be REALLY bored. LOL.

If you bothered to lower yourself from your white horse long enough to actually comprehend the simple english written you would notice that EVERYTHING and ANYTHING automotive posted is not only factual and accurate - but also similar to views shared by thousands of enthusiasts the world over.

I am still waiting for a single fact I have ever posted to be countered with an opposing fact (rather than shallow opinion)

And so much for not hijacking this guys 1/4 mile thread.

LOL.

First of all, you're English is worse than many of the non-Americans on this forum.

Interesting opinion - considering I write and speak better english than you and most other members could ever dream of.

And that's a fact... :)


Second of all, you tend to mix up facts with opinion. Sure the Vette did Nurburgring in 7:56, but after telling us this small morsel of information (which we all respect as the truth), you fill up the rest of your posts with mindless gibberish spouting off nonsense about whatever you can think of. It's entertaining for about......a week.

Not really - considering the rest of the week is taken up defending shit and lies that folks like you invent.

You cannot accept the fact that your Euro-worshipping is one-sided and biased to the point of ignorance. :)


Reminds me of Bill O'Reilly. He talks about "no spin", yet fills up his ENTIRE show with spin. He is your idol after all. LMAO.

This level of bias is frightening - do you even know what spin means? Evidently not.


Everyone talks about their cars. I talk about my TT alot as well, but I don't occupy 90% of my posts regarding my opinions about my car.

That's true - the TT is a slow overpriced piece of crap girly-man hairdresser car.

I was actually laughing when I returned from a test drive in one. Anyone who considers the TT a performance car is delusional :) An expensive Beetle is a better description. :P


You take it to a new level of insecurity.
Insecurity would be if the opinions were not backed by fact - like your Euro-worship.

So - do you have an 1/4 mile times to add to this gents thread? Or are you bent on trashing this guys thread as well? ;)

[RC45]

RC you give your Z06 too much credit. that was the C6 that ran a 7:56. your precious precious Z-06 tied with the Z8:

8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000)
8:18 --- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (09/2003)

Where to start.

That list is incorrect and bullshit.

First off Dave Hill as the program director for the Corvette is NOT a test driver.

2nd off it was John Heinrichy driving.

And 3rd off it was a Z06 - NOT the C6.

Please get your facts straight before quoting someone elses bullshit.


there is also a slew of Lamborghinis, Porches, Ferraris and BMWs WAY ahead of you.
7:06 for an M3GTR.

I will let you carefully think about this one - an M3GTR running 7:06 at the 'Ring.

Yeah - that's what I thought.


http://motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17172&start=0

6th post down, posted by tigerx

so much for owning European cars :wink:
Just because you quote it - doesn't make it so.

[PeleProdigyGTO]

Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega.

My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that?

No you don't understand correctly. The new Pontiac GTO is based off the Holden Monaro, not the new Mustang. And that last Paragraph is so full of flaws and unrelated to the topic that it doesn't get a response. :(

[RC45]

a great sportscar with a decent design, but sadly also with poor build quallity and a ugly interior,this along with the lacking of soul makes it far from a supercar......

I will allow you to rephrase this.

Have you ever had a chance to sit and talk with a person who has owned Ferraris and Lamborghinis over a number of years?

I have - and they all have had one story in common:

Until the early 1990's Ferrari and Lamborghini produced "great cars" with soul - but quality control, fit and finish and interior layout were nothing to write home about.

In fact, with low quality electronics, questionable body quality and reliability were terrible.

So don't use those qualitis as your measure for supercardom - this is not accurate at all.

I will go one step further, take a look inside 80's and 90's Ferraris - the control layout and interior is nothing special or stylish - in fact it is minimilist and poorly executed - a testamony to the fact that interior fit and finish have no effect on performance and are pure cosmetics.

Which is why while Enzo was alive, interior was not the "Starbucks crowd" important issue y'all make it out to be.


but even how much I want Audi to be a supercar they are not......
Because it's a boring slow family car.. :roll: :)

[RC45]

to RC45.

i've already written the 1/4 mile times that have been attained with identical cars such as mine. If you actually spent the time to READ instead of mouthing off, you'd have seen the post.

unlike YOU, i don't claim to have a car that's a "supercar". The Z06 is NOT a supercar. You can claim they have Supercar performance all you want, but you are unlikely to find anyone else who agrees with you about classifying it as a supercar.

Apparently you are the one with the reading issue - I quite clearly stated supercar performance above. :)


Corvettes are a dime a dozen here.....i don't even pay any attention to them when i see them.

Considering they produce 30,000 a year - abotu 6500 Z06's - you are not going to get a prize for stating the obvious. Unlike attention whores such as yourself who need OTHERS to acknowledge your car as a stautus symbol - there are others of us that don't need that kind of peer approval.


They're a bit middle-of-the-road for me. I count performance as only ONE of the features i look for in a car.

Which is why you ended up with a boringly slow mediocre oevrpriced family car.


Again, you have made NO POINTS at all. A 36 year-old loser with a Chevy who thinks he has a supercar?

It is a little tough to debate with a person who can barely provide a valid point that is not pure venom and opinion.

I don't think I have a supercar - never did - I have a car with supercar performance... that's all I need to know.


Delusional, to say the least my friend.

Wow - you actually fabricated facts out of an opinion that you then projected onto another. Not even worth answering.


quite frankly, i'm just tired of seeing worthless posts about your Z06,

Where are these posts about MY car? Yo are the one that has taken the last 20 messages and tried your damndest to insult and belittle my car in anattempt to boslter your self-importance.

Makes one wonder who the real loser is.. :)


and i know i can speak for MANY others on this forum when i say.....WE DON'T FUCKING CARE.

LOL.
How about you put your money where your mouth is... post a poll - let's see what the people really think.. :D

[RC45]

I find it funny that you as the performance guy you try to be, use the fact that the interior are minimalistic as a argument against it.....lol....thats what performance is all about nothing fancy just function.....but if it help you justify the crappy interior you have to endure all day its fine by me.... :P

I could give a shit about the interior of a performance car - have never cared, and never will.

This is why it was not even a 0.00000001% part of the decision in purchasing the car.

[ZfrkS62]

RC, lets just say you're right and that the Z06 time is in fact 7:56. YOU ARE STILL 6 SECONDS SLOWER THAN THE M3CSL!!!

so unless you can provide proof that the list already posted, is in fact bullshit. SHUT THE FUCK UP

[RC45]

RC, lets just say you're right and that the Z06 time is in fact 7:56. YOU ARE STILL 6 SECONDS SLOWER THAN THE M3CSL!!!

It is not whether I am right - it is correct and published by GM as their official time. Not many other manufacturers have been willing to post official test results for all the world to pick at.. :)

So?

That would also place it faster that the Ferrari 360CS and the 996 Turbo... seems you have just proved the Z06 is a performance peer with those supercars... unless you are also admitting that the 360CS and 996Turbo are not supercars either.. :P


so unless you can provide proof that the list already posted, is in fact bullshit. SHUT THE FUCK UP

Give the Corvette Museam in Bowlinggreen Kentucky a call - ask them about how official the John Heinrichy time is. :roll:

[mindgam3]

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33104&page=1

looks like someone was happy with their stock 360 (8:10 on the nordschliefe?) even though they've owned a M5, Z06 and Z8 ;)

Its not all about the lap times and specs RC :P

Well - considering the persons list has both an M5 and a Z8 - neither of which are the the quickest of cars - but rather lethargic status symbols.. it is not surprising that he swapped the faster Z06 for a slower 360 - he naturally congregated towards slow status symbols anyway :)

BTW - what is the reason for trying to derail this 1/4 mile topic again?

Please keep the discussion on topic.

lol, i was merely pointing out that maybe a few (the majority) disagree with the vette being the all singing all dancing perfect "supercar" that you make it out to be which is obviously not the case.

Bottom line is, he owned 4 decent performance cars including a vette and he preffered the 360 by quite a way.... he was amazed when he drove it. Considering that its so much slower than the vette and he thought it was an amzing ride, surely that tells you something?

Please keep on the disucssion topic? I think thats a bit hypocritical :P

Just look at the amount of people who appose your views on the vette, american and european..... Although you'll never give in, maybe you should take some time out to realize that the vette really isnt it all that you make it out to be......

Its ur choice of car, you stick to it, most others will disagree :P

[RC45]

Although you'll never give in, maybe you should take some time out to realize that the vette really isnt it all that you make it out to be......

Its ur choice of car, you stick to it, most others will disagree :P

Yet the 6500 odd buyers a year don't agree... that is a sizable number of owners - actually more than all the 360 owners put together.. :P

[Anonymous]

Although you'll never give in, maybe you should take some time out to realize that the vette really isnt it all that you make it out to be......

Its ur choice of car, you stick to it, most others will disagree :P

Yet the 6500 odd buyers a year don't agree... that is a sizable number of owners - actually more than all the 360 owners put together.. :P

Out of pure interest and because of how far off topic its gone already :P do you know roughly how many come to europe each year ? i'd be interested as they are definately a rare sight for me :)

[DUNKiNUTS]

I am even going say this is getting out of hand :lol: but its all in good fun. right?

[RC45]

I am even going say this is getting out of hand :lol: but its all in good fun. right?

It is and has always been as such from my side - but I suspect some other folks take it a little too seriously and to heart. ;) :P :lol:

But let's think about this for a moment - does anyone honestly think Jabba would put up with all my shit for this length of time and over this broad of a topic spectrum if there wasn't some sort of inside joke going on... ;)

:P

The moral of the story - take the time to step back and see the big picture once in a while... :lol: :)

[RC45]

you are nothing more than a ignorant fool........ :twisted: :wink:

That would be "nothing more than an ignorant fool".. ;) :P

[RC45]

Sorry for my English not being up to south african level, I would like to know how well you write your 3-4 language...... :wink:

No need to apologize - I just want to be sure if someone insults me, that it be grammatically correct.. :P ;)

[RC45]

I didnt insult you, if you took your time to see the bigger picture you will notice the difference......and not qouting things out of context...
Damn dude you are worse than M. Moore.......I guess that last remark there could be regarded as an insult........ :lol: :wink:

Well - if my greatest compliment is an insult equating me to Moore then I am not doing too badly.. ;) :P

[SilviaS15Cwest]

Check sig for my car and times. I ran it a couple days after I got it. I was using the wrong oil, gas, and launches. I think I can get it into mid 16's stock, and then ill go from there.

[Iwan]

attn. all central europe dudes....

beginning of march a 1/4 mile event is planned near stuttgart. one of my
cousins went last year and he was more then thrilled, 'unfortunately' on
that day i head off towards the caribbean.....well deserved holidays....
so, i won't join this opportunity....i'll send my cousin and keep you posted....

1/4 Mile Race near Stuttgart (http://www.flugplatzblasen.de/)

you will also find some pics/streams on the page to get an impression what
2004/3 happened....

cheers,
iwan

[DanielW]

12.60 @112

[RC45]

12.60 @112

From a stock LS1?

Makes you a pretty good shifter.. :)

[DanielW]

well not stock. i have a catback and a cold air intake. i did have to powershift to get to 12.6, with granny shifting i run about 12.75

[GTO]

I'd get pwned on the 1/4, stock 03 WRX, its about 14.5

I can run a 12.9 now with my WRX engine swap with utec stage 2.
take it easy, Micah
Which engine? EJ207T? What turbo?

Anyway hey RC45 what does this 725 Lingerfelter run anyway? Just the 530HP packages can do 8.95 @ 153.7mph

This C6 725 Horsepower 427 CID Intercooled Twin Turbo, looks insane!

http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_cor_c6_427.htm

[RC45]

I'd get pwned on the 1/4, stock 03 WRX, its about 14.5

I can run a 12.9 now with my WRX engine swap with utec stage 2.
take it easy, Micah
Which engine? EJ207T? What turbo?

Anyway hey RC45 what does this 725 Lingerfelter run anyway? Just the 530HP packages can do 8.95 @ 153.7mph

This C6 725 Horsepower 427 CID Intercooled Twin Turbo, looks insane!

http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_cor_c6_427.htm

I dunno what the TT would run - but here is a road race prepped C6 eating Vipers for lunch... even after stalling on the starting grid, cracking the diff. and running the rear end till it was bone dry and destroyed itself..

Imagine what the car would be able to do when it's healthy... :shock:

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/images/gallery/2005Sebring.jpg


In car video
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~jhester/lg/lgm-rdatl.wmv

http://lgmotorsports.com/images/site/frontpageedit4.jpg

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/

This is last years cars at the drag strip...


http://www.lgmotorsports.com/images/news//wcdrag.jpg
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/images/media/lg140.wmv

[TransAm]

Whatever the stock WRX did, I guess I'd be about the same...around 15s I guess...

[PaulGT2164]

heehee i laugh everytime rc45 does this to a thread =) its so entertaining :D

i think the points everyone seems to miss here is simple
rc45 is simply stating in his fanatical corvette loving way, his z06 is good bang for the buck , its that simple

the other ppl seem to mistake this for him calling it a supercar , when it isnt. it has supercar performance (it does, i have driven one) but it lacks the interior, technology, and exclustivity to make it a full fledged "supercar"

as for the comparisons between it and a M5, thats just stupid. the M5 is a 4 door big car, in a total different class than the z06, i dont see anyone cross-shopping the two, so anything regarding the two is a null point.

rc45 is fanatical (very fanatical sometimes) about his vette cause he owns one, just as if he owned a 360 ferrari, he would be fanatical the same way, im the same way about what i drive, and whoever else like , everso, is about his TT. no big deal, not reason to ruffle feathers...the zo6 is a great car, the TT is a great car, the 360 is a great car, just different types of owners...

unfortunately i dont see why it took 3 or 4 pages to come to that conclusion lol....

anyway 1/4 mile times..

hrmmm the maita (turbo) ran 12.53 at PIR raceway
i had a friends massaged dodge dart swinger that ran 14.10 with a 360ci motor in ti..
and the last run i made in the miata was funny cause it was a sucky run (14.2) but i had a trap speed of 106mph lol...can we say traction probs :D

[sads]

You guys are bound to never have heard of my ride its a VL Commodore at the momment its el stocko but when I get the final few hundred dollars together I need it will have a RB30det engine and shuld be good for 11-12 secs on 7-9psi. Once I finish the current head conversion and turbo the bottom end will get worked and I should be able to get 9-10

[Pokiou]

keep dreaming sads.. ffs... 11. 12 sec pass with a stock vl turbo ... u need to spend like 10+ to get even close to a 12 flat

Pok.

[sads]

How do you know how I'm doing it?

[Pokiou]

u used the word stock.... rephrase it .. say u will be bulling 11's when u spend this much and do this and this to the car


Pok