BMW 320CDI M sport pack Courtesy Car

[Jabba]

I was shocked at the performance of a car that I presumed was going to be crap when they told me it was going to be a diesel. It does have the M sport pack though..but still...much much better than I thought any diesel car could ever be.

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[mindgam3]

yeah bmw's diesels are great. My dads replacing his petrol X5 with a new diesel one because the performance is basically the same but u get better economy, pretty amazing really ;)

[Jabba]

Just slightly...I would never normally go near a diesel car...but obviously they have been much improved as I was like :shock: :shock: :shock: WTF when I put my foot down...thought it was gonna be like a taxi...but more like a Ferrari....truly IMPRESSIVE stuff.

[cooperluke]

...but more like a Ferrari....truly IMPRESSIVE stuff


My dad as one just like the one above, with the M pack, but the 4 door, and it really moves very well for a diesel car. I wouldn't say like a Ferrari, but very good for a diesel with 2000cc.

By the way... have you tried its top speed? I heard the ratios weren't the same for all the countries!

[Jabba]

I may try it tonight...but not something that I like doing when the car doesn't belong to me.

Compared to the Ferrari and Lamborghini all I can say is its still impressive or seems so anyway.

[BADMIHAI]

It must be the big torque that gives you that feeling of accelleration. The car looks very nice. How does it sound when the pedal meets the metal?

[Jabba]

Much better than I thought but still pretty horrible compared to a petrol engine.

[astonmartinandy]

Yeah the torque from modern diesel engines really do make them accelerate pretty impressively! Still, they are a long way off making diesel engines as exciting towards the top end, or as enjoyable to listen to :wink:

[davide]

The diesels are coming strong!

[TT]

Sadly diesels are more and more sporty :( think what a 330d could do! :D

But for sure modern diesels performance is top notch! Only the sound lets you down ;)

It's a damn sexy car!! Last time I had a Jeep Cherokee as courtesy car at a BMW dealership LMAO

[Jabba]

Any stats for it ??? 0-60 and top end ??

[BADMIHAI]

Any stats for it ??? 0-60 and top end ??


I guess you're gonna have to take a stopwatch with you tonight. :wink:

[mindgam3]

think its about 7 secs 0-60? could be wrong

[cooperluke]

Any stats for it ??? 0-60 and top end ??



0-60 in 8sec and something

Top end: 230km/h 144mph

Then tell me if I am right or what! ;)

[blah]

in america jabba, there are hundreds of Disel Trucks that could smoke ferraris, and corvettes and porsches. it takes only a chip for our diesel trucks to be pushing like 500-600 lbs feet of torque and HP. Its disguisting. :twisted:

[Wutputt]

Any stats for it ??? 0-60 and top end ??
Measurements by a Belgian car Magazine (=/= the official BMW stats)

0 - 100kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s
Topspeed: 219 kph (137 mph) @ 4000 rpm
0- 1/4 mile: 16,5s (@ 140 kph or 87,5 mph)
0- 1000m: 30,1s (@ 174 kph or 109 mph)

400m starting at 40 kph (= 1/4 mile starting at 25 mph): 17,5s in 4th / 21,6s in 5th
1000m starting at 40 kph: 31,4s in 4th / 37,2s in 5th
60 - 90 kph (37,5 - 56 mph): 5,3s in 4th / 7,4s in 5th
90 - 120 kph (56 - 75 mph): 5,6s in 4th / 6,8s in 5th


Official BMW stats:

0 - 100 kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s
Topspeed: 221 kph (138 mph)
80 - 120 khp (50 - 75 mph): 7,2s in 4th

[BADMIHAI]

0 - 100kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s




more like a Ferrari


:P

It probably feels a lot faster than it really is.

[stradale]

Nice looking car, but like you, Jabba, I would have preferred a petrol engine. BMW's diesels are very good diesel engines (I have never driven the 2 litre, but I did drive a 530d and an X5 3.0d before), but I still don't like the sound and their reluctance to rev higher than 4,000 rpms.

[schnell318]

I agree that the performance of rescent diesels is really impressive. A friend if mine has as X5 3.0d with sport pack and it´s pretty fast. Of course the most impressive thing is always the torque and the fuel economy.

BTW, that 320cd looks really nice with the M pack. I absolutely love the alloys.

[TransAm]

Well, I think it's a nice car too. Unlike schnell, I don't like the style of those alloys at all

As someone above mentioned (i think it was TT) you're lucky to get a BMW from BMW as a courtesy car. I had all sorts of crap as a loan car from the BMW dealerships (John Roberts, Dallas) here in Texas, but then my Z3 was in for warranty work. Perhaps it's different if you are actually spending money there (i.e. I'm assuming your car is in for a service?)

[chest3r]

This is my favourite Diesel car. 8)

I've already seen a portuguese mag with a comparison between the M3 E46 and the 330Cd E46 and they said they weren't much diferent. The torque at the Diesel was really good, better than the M3.

Don't forget. In Portugal the number of diesel cars is growing everyday. I'm not shure but I would say that diesel car's are a litle more than half of the cars

[Jabba]

Any stats for it ??? 0-60 and top end ??
Measurements by a Belgian car Magazine (=/= the official BMW stats)

0 - 100kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s
Topspeed: 219 kph (137 mph) @ 4000 rpm
0- 1/4 mile: 16,5s (@ 140 kph or 87,5 mph)
0- 1000m: 30,1s (@ 174 kph or 109 mph)

400m starting at 40 kph (= 1/4 mile starting at 25 mph): 17,5s in 4th / 21,6s in 5th
1000m starting at 40 kph: 31,4s in 4th / 37,2s in 5th
60 - 90 kph (37,5 - 56 mph): 5,3s in 4th / 7,4s in 5th
90 - 120 kph (56 - 75 mph): 5,6s in 4th / 6,8s in 5th


Official BMW stats:

0 - 100 kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s
Topspeed: 221 kph (138 mph)
80 - 120 khp (50 - 75 mph): 7,2s in 4th

I was going to say about 140 mph top end after last nights testing. The 0-60 time seems a hell of a lot quicker though and that was watching the speedo and it not just feeling quick.

[Jabba]

This is my favourite Diesel car. 8)

I've already seen a portuguese mag with a comparison between the M3 E46 and the 330Cd E46 and they said they weren't much diferent. The torque at the Diesel was really good, better than the M3.


Yes I can easily believe that and I only have the 320...it is simply OUTSTANDING.

[stradale]

About the comparison chest3r made: the torque might not differ much, but due to the fact the M3's engine can rev much higher it'll still blow a 330Cd away. The reason current diesel cars feel so fast is because most people only use the rev range where the diesel engine's strength lies. When commuting is the only use for a car I could certainly see the benefits of a diesel car.

Also, don't forget all diesel engines use forced induction. Strap a turbocharger and intercooler to an M3 engine and the difference gets even bigger.

[possessed_beaver]

i'll let you in on a little secret..

bmw have the model called a "M3" u think the 320 was fast ;)

try driving one of them!

[Anonymous]

Indeed diesels have come a long way, my dads E300 merc is also diesel and it is damn quick despite being an auto, though really at home on the motorway its still alright through the corners too (sports suspension i think) I wonder if the BM is still as economical as a regular diesel? have you had to fill it up yet Jabba?

[Wutputt]

Official BMW stats:

0 - 100 kph (0 - 62,5 mph): 8,8s
Topspeed: 221 kph (138 mph)
80 - 120 kph (50 - 75 mph): 7,2s in 4th

I was going to say about 140 mph top end after last nights testing. The 0-60 time seems a hell of a lot quicker though and that was watching the speedo and it not just feeling quick.
Performance of a car, certainly a turbocharged one, is (very) dependant of the circumstances (temperature, humidity, pressure, etc). So it's certainly possible to achieve faster times than the official stats of the constructer.

On the other hand, a modern 'high performance' diesel will always feel quicker than its gasoline counterpart, cause those modern diesels release loads of torque very very quick. And it's just this you experiences as the way you’re pushed in the seat during accelerating. But it's also this that makes them really fast in elasticity runs.

[cooperluke]

if BM is still as economical as a regular diesel? have you had to fill it up yet Jabba?


It does 7l/100km

I don't know how much ois that in mpg... but it's a very good value to a car with 150bhp.

[Anonymous]

if BM is still as economical as a regular diesel? have you had to fill it up yet Jabba?


It does 7l/100km

I don't know how much ois that in mpg... but it's a very good value to a car with 150bhp.

LOL i need some conversion tables or something! anyway i suppose whatever it works out at will compare favourably with the petrol equivialent in the range :) i've always associated diesels with economy and well just plain slow as a consequence, i mean now there are very few manufacturers without diesels in their line up.

[Wutputt]

if BM is still as economical as a regular diesel? have you had to fill it up yet Jabba?


It does 7l/100km

I don't know how much ois that in mpg... but it's a very good value to a car with 150bhp.
According to the ECE cycle figures (constructers are obliged to publish those figures in their brochures):

Urban cycle: 7,9 l/100km = 29,8 mpg
Rural cycle: 4,5 l/100km = 52,3 mpg
Combined cycle: 5,7 l/100km = 41,3 mpg

The problem with those official ECE cycle figures is they're not realistic for bigger and more powerful engines, cause those cycles are completely not a heavy load for the engines. Those cycles consist of slow accelerations and max speed during the rural and combined cycle is 120 kph or 75 mph.

So your 7l/100 km (= 33,6 mpg) is a more realistic figure for the combined cycle than the official one.

[gis]

nice courtesy car Jabba.the cars for a diesel are pretty quick.i had a mess around with one actually,a while ago.was surprised to see it bein a diesel.

i can imagine it bein quite good for a diesel to drive also.u should make a video of it jabba,lol

[coombsie66]

U think thats good, try the 330 diesel!! They are RAPID!!! Blow my car into the weeds conclusively! I used to drive the same route every morning as another bloke who had a nice Topaz blue 330 diesel touring with the sport pack and it just left me for dead off of every roundabout!! Now i know my car aint the quickest hatch by any means but i was surprised!
And does anyone remember the gumball vids a while back of those 2 blokes who wanted to win the gumball so went out and bought the 330 diesel with the M-sport pack. There were vids of them in it, it wasnt untill i saw that the Tacho only revved to 5k and heard the turbo whistle that i realised it was a diesel!!! They were doing donughts on dry tarmac with ease for fucks sake!!!!!!

Praise the lord, for the variable pitch Turbo is here!!!! :D :D

[TransAm]

330d has just gone to the top of my list of 'car to buy when I get back to the UK'...