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///M_Power
09-20-2004, 04:27 PM
Here are some of the car that i would like to see in a future version of Need for Speed, i heard that they will return to the big cars, when GT4 is almost ready. I took all the stats from Motortrend (USA). I have clasified the cars considering price, horsepower/transmission, displacement/cylinder and performance.

CLASS-C ROADSTERS DRIVETRAIN 60-MPH 1/4 BASE PRICE
Audi TT Roadster Quattro DSG6 3.2-liter V-6 250-hp 6SM 6.5s 14.7s US$ 47K

BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0i 3.0-liter I-6 225-hp 6M 5.7s 14.2s US$ 45K

Honda S2000 2.2-liter I-4 240-hp 6M 5.8s 14.2s US$ 33K

Nissan 350Z Roadster 3.5-liter V-6 287-hp 6M 5.8s 14.1s US$ 34K

Mercedes-Benz SLK350 3.5-liter V-6

Porsche Boxster 2.7-liter F-6 228-hp 5M 5.9s 15.5s US$ 46K

Porsche Boxster S 3.2-liter F-6 258-hp 6M 5.4s 13.8s US$ 59K



CLASS-B COUPE
BMW M3 3.2-liter I-6 333-hp 6SM 4.7s 13.2s US$ 49K

BMW M3 CSL 3.2-liter I-6 352-hp 6SM 4.6?

Jaguar XKR 4.2-liter V-8s 390-hp 6A 5.2s 13.4s US$ 83K

Maserati Coupe Cambiocarosa 4.2-liter V-8 385-hp 6SM 4.7s 13.0s US$ 94K

Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG 5.4-liter V-8 362-hp 5A 4.8s 13.1s US$ 79K

Porsche 911 Carrera (997) 3.6-liter F-6 325-hp 6M 4.8? US$ 70-90?

Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) 3.8-liter F-6 355-hp 6M 4.6? US$ 80-100?



CLASS-B SUPERSEDANS
Audi RS6 4.2-liter V-8t 450-hp 5A 4.3s 12.6s US$ 88K

BMW M5 5.0-liter V-10 507-hp 7SM 3.9?

Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 5.4-liter V-8s 469-hp 5A 4.2s 12.4s US$ 76K

Cadillac CTS-V 5.7-liter V-8 400-hp 6M 5.0s 11.4s US$ 51K



CLASS-A SPORTS CARS
Aston Martin DB9 5.9-liter V-12 444-hp 6SM US$ 160k

Aston Martin Vanqish 5.9-liter V-12 460-hp 6SM 4.7s 13.2s US$ 225K

Chevrolet Corvette (C6) 6.0-liter V-8 400-hp 6M 4.1s 12.5s US$ 50K

Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 3.6-liter V-8 425-hp 6SM 4.3s 12.5s US$ 193K

Ferrari F430 4.3-liter V-8 490-hp 6SM

Lamborghini Gallardo 5.0-liter V-10 493-hp 6SM 4.3s 12.5s US$ 188K

Mercedes-Benz CL55 AMG 5.4-liter V-8s 493-hp 5A 4.3s 12.4s US$ 118K

Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG 5.4-liter V-8s 493-hp 5A 4.4s 12.5s
Porsche 911 GT3 (996) 3.6-liter F-6 380-hp 6M 3.9s 13.1s US$ 106K

Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 3.6-liter F-6 415-hp 6M 3.9s 11.9s US$ 111K

Porsche 911 Turbo X50 (996) 3.6-liter F-6t 450-hp 6M 3.7s 11.9s US$ 137K


CLASS-AA SUPERCARS
Dodge Viper SRT-10 8.3-liter V-10 500-hp 6M 3.9s 11.8s US$ 83K

Ferrari 575M Maranello 5.8-liter V-12 508-hp 6SM 4.2s 12.3s US$ 241K

Ford GT 5.4-liter V-8s 500-hp 6M 3.6s 11.8s US$ 140K

Lamborghini MurciƩlago 6.2-liter V-12 571-hp 6M 3.5s 11.7s US$ 284K

Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG 6.0-liter V-12t 612-hp 5A 4.0?

Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG 6.0-liter V-12t 612-hp 5A

Porsche 911 GT2 (996) 3.6-liter F-6t 456-hp 6M 3.6s 11.9s US$ 180K



CLASS-AAA REALLY EXPENSIVE SUPERCARS
Ameritech McLaren F1 6.1-liter V-12 627-hp 6M 3.4s 11.6s US$ 890K

Ferrari Enzo 6.0-liter V-12 660-hp 6SM 3.1s 10.8s US$ 652K

Mercedes McLaren SLR 5.4-liter V-8s 612-hp 5A

Porsche Carrera GT 5.7-liter V-10 612-hp 6M 3.2s 11.0s US$ 440K

Saleen S7 7.0-liter V-8 550-hp 6M 3.5s 11.8s US$ 395K

So this is my list! What do you think? Am i missing something? Do you like it?

gigdy
09-20-2004, 04:32 PM
Theyve already announced a NFSU2.

abbor
09-20-2004, 04:32 PM
I would like them to make a porsche-like game with ferraris.. It would have to be a little different though

redbaron
09-20-2004, 04:35 PM
I just like to see cops again. NFS U was fun, but too easy and personally I missed the pursuit with the police. I.M.O the best NFS will be a mix of NFSU, NFS HP2, P2000. Lots of tuned cars against supercars, cops and racing in a giant city

///M_Power
09-20-2004, 04:36 PM
in a recent interview with EA chief xxx, he said that they will go back to the supercars series after NFS underground 2

Chaos in 1983!
09-20-2004, 05:17 PM
They better return to supercars on the next NFS...and they better have interior view, it makes it more real, and driving with just a bumper cam sucks balls....

I remember how crisp and real the interiors looked in NFS3...and then when they came out with NFS High Stakes, they looked all blurry...Porsche unleashed had interior view but not as good as NFS3 IMO...or is it jus that my memory is failing? :?

bmagni
09-20-2004, 07:13 PM
the car list seems great, but the PGR series are much better...

mclaren_Gt
09-20-2004, 07:23 PM
the nfs2 is great
but mi favorite is the nfs4
the mclaren f1 lm
mercedes benz clkgtr
ferrarif50

, i know the nfs2 have more supercars but the nfs4 is much better in resolution

NFS4 :D

PATo355
09-20-2004, 11:20 PM
NFSU : Ferrari Unlimited !!!

10 dvds of tracks and cars from all times ... i would even think of paying for that game :wink:

Daggernite
09-21-2004, 12:15 AM
well I likes the style and daytime racing of hot pursuit, if you did'nt know NFSU3 is already in the making for the PS3 and a NFS game bin made for the PSP.

N.J.
09-21-2004, 10:42 PM
None on your list...

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2271/TheNeedForSpeed.jpg
http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2776/TheNeedForSpeed2.jpg

I still believe the original Need For Speed was the best of the series.

Technically, Porsche Unleashed was the best for its graphics & handling...but as much as I love 911s, it didn't have the variety/balance of the original.

The original was great not only because of the different makes, but the handling was terrific (you could FEEL the differences between each car, strengths/weaknesses and all that - every other NFS has failed in this respect bar Porsche Unleashed) and those 3 open road tracks with 3 sections in each was fantastic. (best 3 road/tracks of the entire series)



So the NFS I'd like to see would be the original game (with its real car videos, background, history features from Road & Track, realistic handling, open road courses with 3 segments) with current technology and cars (including dashboards)

Most importantly, I WANT A SIM!!! NOT ARCADE CRAP! - no being chased by Police around in circles around a track, no helicopters dropping bombs, no pink slips, underground, no points for jumps/flips/'high air' etc. etc. etc. -none of that rubbish...its time to get back to basics and what made the original so great - a great driving sim on open roads!



p.s

Its 10 years since the original came out - and I STILL feel like starting it up and having a go (even when I've got NFS2,3,4,5)...its still THAT good.

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/5726/TheNeedForSpeed3.jpg
http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9357/TheNeedForSpeed4.jpg

ARMAN
09-22-2004, 03:52 AM
Oh man N.J.!!! You have the full version of NFS! :shock: Thats the best series IMO too. Long 3 parts roads(Alpine Montains or Costal), cool cars, great chases. The best was 911(of course Testarossa was fastest but..) you could see the ass going sideways if in the corner you released the throttle(if you know what I mean). And yes it was SIM, if you made mistake and crashed - you could only pray than car in front of you crash cause otherwise you would loose. I remeber playing often "just one win and I go to sleep" series till 5-6 in the morning cause it was tricky to win (sometimes) :mrgreen:
If EA would release new version of it with NFS6/7 graphyx and engine, with Enzo, Stradale, Scaglietti, 997, new Boxster, CGT, Zonda, new Viper, Honda Civic/Accord TypeR, S2000, C7, CSL, Gallardo, Exige etc. but no crappy F&F s*it + smarter cops and it would kick butts and forsure will be best seller of all NFS Series :P
I even had SE version, sold it long time ago :(

greenie99
09-22-2004, 10:12 AM
NFS is shit :lol:

nthfinity
09-22-2004, 12:46 PM
porsche unleashed was incredibly fun... but they need to do it with braod array of cars, not just one brand. a sim/mixed with some cops would be great... and upgradable performance parts you can buy...

Fleischmann
09-22-2004, 01:12 PM
One of my favourite series of games. They had the money to buy rights to place superexotics cars in their games. Porsche is the best IMO, the latest two games were total disasters IMO. It's sad to see them make games based on ricing up cars with typical arcade'ish physics and "plastic" handling :( For me NFS has died :(

astonmartinandy
09-22-2004, 01:24 PM
The original was awesome - does anybody know where you can still get the game from?

ARMAN
09-22-2004, 02:55 PM
You cannot buy it anymore :(

N.J.
09-23-2004, 10:09 AM
I don't think NFS is dead (at least I hope not...) - I'll explain why:

The important thing to remember is that NFS1/1se & NFS5 -Porsche- were made by a different group from EA than the people who made NFS2/3/4/6 etc. etc.

(Thats why the first 2 I mentioned stand out so much from the others and why the others are shit...see!)



So as long as the group who made the original & Porsche version make further versions in the future, then I've got a reason to keep an eye out...the challenge is of course to spot the dud ones ie. ignore the manufacturers/cars included, exercise a bit of self-discipline and not buy them if the handling/realism/physics aren't correct.

N.J.
09-23-2004, 10:39 AM
Oh man N.J.!!! You have the full version of NFS! :shock: Thats the best series IMO too. Long 3 parts roads(Alpine Montains or Costal), cool cars, great chases. The best was 911(of course Testarossa was fastest but..) you could see the ass going sideways if in the corner you released the throttle(if you know what I mean). And yes it was SIM, if you made mistake and crashed - you could only pray than car in front of you crash cause otherwise you would loose. I remeber playing often "just one win and I go to sleep" series till 5-6 in the morning cause it was tricky to win (sometimes) :mrgreen:
If EA would release new version of it with NFS6/7 graphyx and engine, with Enzo, Stradale, Scaglietti, 997, new Boxster, CGT, Zonda, new Viper, Honda Civic/Accord TypeR, S2000, C7, CSL, Gallardo, Exige etc. but no crappy F&F s*it + smarter cops and it would kick butts and forsure will be best seller of all NFS Series :P
I even had SE version, sold it long time ago :(


You got it :D

When going into sharp bends with the 911, I loved giving it a little flick, getting the back end out...ie a bit of the old 'lift off oversteer' theory:D

The Thrustmaster T2 Wheel & pedals worked really well.




For 5 years, I never put 'The Need For Speed' down.

Yes, I won the game over, and over, and over easlier...

But for fun, I'd pick a slower car - my fav- (911 Carrera) and take on the fastest (Diablo or 512TR) for a challenge as the AI was admittedly a bit slow.

Then I try to get the absolute best time at each circuit.

ie. I do a track in the Diablo, then again, again, then when I couldn't go any faster, get the next car and so on....

I know this sounds extremely repetitive, but thats the thing, the game felt so realistic that I rarely became tired of it.

(This is of course something I could never do with the other NFSs as they were no where near as satisfying enough - despite their superior tech)

I never managed to take on someone over the wires...If I found someone who wanted to though - even 10 years on - I wouldn't have to think twice about it.


Although, when I picked up 'Grand Prix Legends' (probably 2000), the handling really was something else again! ...the control you had between understeer & oversteer, steering with the throttle, powerslides, 4 wheel drifts and of course, the mighty Nordschliefe Nurburgring circuit.




p.s

Gran Turismo 4 really looks awesome.

The fact that the handling/physics is said to be spot on, over 500 cars, many tracks (including the Nordshliefe Nurburgring) are included, I think for the 1st time ever...I will probably end up buying my 1st game console, a PS2. (I've always had a pc see...)

topgeartom
09-23-2004, 10:46 AM
I know you cant buy it anymore, but does anyone plz know where i can d/l the first two nfs's (NFS/NFS SE) please please please.

Ta

gucom
09-23-2004, 11:24 AM
NFS:PU with cops and instead of 80 porsches 80 sportscars...that'd be perfect...

N.J.
09-24-2004, 12:27 AM
I know you cant buy it anymore, but does anyone plz know where i can d/l the first two nfs's (NFS/NFS SE) please please please.

Ta

No sure where you could download them - but I'm sure they're out there somewhere...

NFS1/NFS1 SE are the same thing really.

NFS1 was a dos version, NFS1SE was a Win95 version.

Although, from memory, NFS1SE did have an extra track.

Either of them are definately worth looking around for.




p.s

Here's the demo for a start (only 3.5mb)

http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/48

I'll keep looking and see what else I can find.

ARMAN
09-24-2004, 04:39 AM
But for fun, I'd pick a slower car - my fav- (911 Carrera) and take on the fastest (Diablo or 512TR) for a challenge as the AI was admittedly a bit slow.

I took amasingly slow Silver NSX or even slower RX7 and 512 or Diablo as opponent, those was the nights when I played till 5-6 in the morning :mrgreen:
And that Supra - what a car it was! - sound of a chain saw!

Anyone know where to find the game?(TNFS SE) 8) SE better, cause I had normal version and there is a slight difference in quality I think.

EDIT: who was looking for NFS1? (http://raceplanet.ru/downloads/NFS.exe) :P Its SE version but no vids and I think not all the music, but otherwise working :wink:

topgeartom
09-24-2004, 07:43 AM
But for fun, I'd pick a slower car - my fav- (911 Carrera) and take on the fastest (Diablo or 512TR) for a challenge as the AI was admittedly a bit slow.

I took amasingly slow Silver NSX or even slower RX7 and 512 or Diablo as opponent, those was the nights when I played till 5-6 in the morning :mrgreen:
And that Supra - what a car it was! - sound of a chain saw!

Anyone know where to find the game?(TNFS SE) 8) SE better, cause I had normal version and there is a slight difference in quality I think.

EDIT: who was looking for NFS1? (http://raceplanet.ru/downloads/NFS.exe) :P Its SE version but no vids and I think not all the music, but otherwise working :wink:

Thanks for that. I will d/l it when i get home. Hope its in english!! :P

PATo355
09-24-2004, 07:44 AM
I know you cant buy it anymore, but does anyone plz know where i can d/l the first two nfs's (NFS/NFS SE) please please please.

Ta


Just got it off bit torrent , go to www.suprnova.org , then games , then pc games , and check in the N , it should be there , 27mb :D

topgeartom
09-24-2004, 08:02 AM
I know you cant buy it anymore, but does anyone plz know where i can d/l the first two nfs's (NFS/NFS SE) please please please.

Ta


Just got it off bit torrent , go to www.suprnova.org , then games , then pc games , and check in the N , it should be there , 27mb :D

Dont you have to pay for Supernova??? (I am skint remember :P )

ARMAN
09-24-2004, 10:25 AM
this one is 55MB and it have more feauters - Las Vegas track (from SE), super fast car(from SE), music and some (dont know wich yet) vids but not vids of cars :(.
Before on that site was this 27mb .rar file.

topgeartom
09-24-2004, 03:23 PM
this one is 55MB and it have more feauters - Las Vegas track (from SE), super fast car(from SE), music and some (dont know wich yet) vids but not vids of cars :(.
Before on that site was this 27mb .rar file.

Right, i've d/l'd your version (the 55mb) but when i run any of the prgrams it creates, i just get a lovely black screen. Am i being thick? Suggestions?

ARMAN
09-24-2004, 04:33 PM
Dont know whats wrong :? To me works Nfssb.bat
BTW, this version 55MB have only one sound for all cars you drive :( same sound for 512,911 etc... but I got in my PC version that have all sounds as should be (61MB)