CAR 10.2004 - Lancer EVO FQ-400 vs Zonda

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[jorge]

Thanks, very nice article. :)

It would be also really interesting to see how this amazing Evo compares to sedans like the new M5 and the E55.

[TT]

WOW, I like such "strange" duels :D and that Zonda in blue is so sexy!

[redbaron]

Damned I think I have to cancel my Zonda now :wink:

[astonmartinandy]

That's an awesome article - thanks very much for the scan! Have to say that I love those underdog victories (subjectively)!

[racer_f50]

thanks for the scan. can't say i expected this comparison, but its not that surprising that a rally-bred company could make an EVO so quick. i'd still prefer the Zonda in my garage though :wink:

[sentra_dude]

Two of my favorites...

0-60 in 3.6 & 175+mph topspeed :twisted:

I'd take the Zonda if I could only have one, but if I could afford a Zonda I think I could swing an Evo as well...so I'd get both. :P

[chest3r]

A nice article. Thankz!!

That Zonda looks good with that color. :o

I'll be happy "just" with the Evo, it would be enough. :lol:

[SilviaEvo]

wow i didnt know the EVO was capable of that :twisted:

[T-Bird]

what's next on Mitsubishi's list FQ-500? maybe take on some bigger challenges?

[jamberl]

It would have been cool to see some laptimes!

Thanks for the scans! :D

[he7lius]

Very nice article but it's still a prototype wright??

[HoboPie]

I admit that is pretty cool, but why only work with 0-62? Perhaps not significant if you want to discuss point to point, but if they need to make such a big point about the Evo's pace why not mention a little more of the acceleration.

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure a 400hp 1400kg car can hit 100mph in 7.4 seconds or 150 in less than 17.

I'm not so much arguing for the Zonda as against this crazy journalism. I like the way Car and Evo deal with the subjective way a car feels, but I think it would be nice if they included more information about their tests.

[Daggernite]

very very nice article, Impressive to say the least, so is the evo a supercar now?!!? interestin was a great read :)

[evoWalo]

Thanks for the article. It gives me some idea on how to modify my evo. :twisted:

[gogo4ever]

Perfect article...
The Evo vs Zonda... Not a huge difference in point of performance view... Especially for "real world" but when it comes to style, quality, sound, esthetic etc... I could not take my eyes off Zonda...
PS: In 1999, I had the opportunity to seat on the driver seat of a Zonda, Grey one... It was a fantastic feeling... But when I remember that it was only the car in the showroom, not on the road... I totally disappointed:-)

[schnell318]

WTF?!?! a 400bhp Evo, that´s so incredible, too bad the rear lights look so bad, but I really wouldn´t mind owning such a car.

[Ian_yamaue]

Damn, it beats the Murc in 0-62mph!!! That was a surprise, I have a lambo fan friend (not a007apl) who is pissed off. :lol:

[leo_26782]

Great article, but i doubt you buy a zonda for the same use as a Evo. It's hard to compare cars not built for the same purpose.

[godspeed06]

the most amazing thing is the 3 year warranty if that ends up being true. are they fucking crazy? all 100 of those if driven hard will explode.

[evoWalo]

maybe the have clause stating that if the cars are used in competition the warranty is void. anyway at the premium they're demandign they better cover whatever happens to the car.

[Schwalbe]

Wow! :shock: I didn't know that the EVO FQ-400 was capable of also great performance.

[wolfster]

Damned I think I have to cancel my Zonda now

let's cancel it and buy 20 mitsus ha

[crazyxzer0]

Quite an interesting article. Does mistubishi have anything else going for them besides the EVO. seems like there are a bajillion versions of the Evo nowadays..

[crazidude]

Performance cars wise, Mitsubishi doesn't have anything better than the EVO. Not many companies have something that can stack up against the EVO surpisingly.
I wouldn't have ever expected an article comparing these two cars, nor did I expect an FQ400 to be made. I'm curious how well it would lap a track right now.

[homemade wrx]

very nice scan...

[Dave1]

I have to disagree with CAR magazine when they say "in the real world nothing comes close to the Evo". By this I assume they mean B roads (country roads) because that were the Evo shines and if were being realistic a lot of things can keep up with this new Evo. Simply because of the fact that public roads are dangerous and when your approaching a blind bend at speed you always have that thought in the back of your mind that there could be a tractor, cyclist or someone broken down on the exit of it :shock: . So really you can't use the anywhere near the full potential of either of these cars of B roads and if you feel you can you shouldn't have a drivers licence!!! So in the real world the closest you can get to using the full potential of these cars on the public roads is on motorways where, provided that driving conditions are good it is much safer do so. On the motorway the Evo would be outclassed. On a closed country road the Evo probably would leave the Zonda for dust but in the "real world" when are roads closed for you to have a blast in your car?

0-62 times are not a benchmark for cars of this power they are all much of a muchness. A more relevant benchmark would be 0-100 or more importantly 50-100.

One thing I do agree with CAR in that the evo would be much better in the wet. But the Zonda would be more fun or dangerous maybe? LOL depends who’s driving it.

[nejcdolinsek]

These articles are jokes... I HATE them... what idiot would choose an evo over a zonda???

But thanks anyway!

[Ian_yamaue]

Wow, easy boy. Look at the prices.

[evoWalo]

I have to disagree with CAR magazine when they say "in the real world nothing comes close to the Evo". By this I assume they mean B roads (country roads) because that were the Evo shines and if were being realistic a lot of things can keep up with this new Evo. Simply because of the fact that public roads are dangerous and when your approaching a blind bend at speed you always have that thought in the back of your mind that there could be a tractor, cyclist or someone broken down on the exit of it :shock: . So really you can't use the anywhere near the full potential of either of these cars of B roads and if you feel you can you shouldn't have a drivers licence!!! So in the real world the closest you can get to using the full potential of these cars on the public roads is on motorways where, provided that driving conditions are good it is much safer do so. On the motorway the Evo would be outclassed. On a closed country road the Evo probably would leave the Zonda for dust but in the "real world" when are roads closed for you to have a blast in your car?

0-62 times are not a benchmark for cars of this power they are all much of a muchness. A more relevant benchmark would be 0-100 or more importantly 50-100.

One thing I do agree with CAR in that the evo would be much better in the wet. But the Zonda would be more fun or dangerous maybe? LOL depends who’s driving it.Dave1 did you bother reading and understanding the article/scans at all? Your assumptions are out of sync with what was stated. “Real world” means roads that have defeats, potholes, speedbumps, debris, wet etc. These are the kind of roads you find in cities, towns and in between. I doubt the Zonda or any supercar for that matter can go fast and at the same time handle a sudden depression caused by a pothole and survive without damage. The Evo in general can in most cases.

The driving situations you describe are behavior off a reckless & stupid driver that really can’t be blamed on the Evo or any car for that matter. The FQ400’s acceleration can be used in real world situations, whether to overtake slow moving cars, evade accidents or avoid traffic. In the wet the AWD handles wet/damp/moist road surfaces better. Yes you can do overtake slow moving cars, evade accidents or avoid traffic in a Zonda or any other supercar for that matter but again can it do that on a poorly maintained & wet public road?

Again how can the FQ400 be outclassed by a Zonda when the article states that the Evo is .1 second faster from not to 62mph? By all indication the time published were timed on a race circuit where the Zonda should shine.

Yet again why cant 0-62mph be the benchmark on how to quantify the performance of any car? Sooner or later another mag will showcase 0-100mph or 50-100mph but those are secondary data that a more elaborate review and not a preview should cover. After all the car is slated to be sold on October 1 and the article was done months in advance.

What I find most amusing is that a 303 thousand quid supercar that has superior engineering specs can post an inferior time.

[Ian_yamaue]

Amén

[Dave1]

All good paints evoWALO (yes i understand the article :) ) . I just feel these cars are made for the purpose of all out performance otherwise mitsubishi/ralliart wouldn't have bothered to of made this new Evo when the comments about real world performance CAR magazine made, a normal Evo 7 would do just as well so why not compare it to that and mention its quicker to 60 than most super cars. I am trying to defend the Zonda as I think it was slightly unfairly treaded in this article. But as you pointed out to me it is not a full review/comparison.

[evoWalo]

All good paints evoWALO (yes i understand the article :) ) . I just feel these cars are made for the purpose of all out performance otherwise mitsubishi/ralliart wouldn't have bothered to of made this new Evo when the comments about real world performance CAR magazine made, a normal Evo 7 would do just as well so why not compare it to that and mention its quicker to 60 than most super cars. I am trying to defend the Zonda as I think it was slightly unfairly treaded in this article. But as you pointed out to me it is not a full review/comparison.
Making comparisons between the Evo/Imprezza and supercars like the Zonda has been going on for years already. I do sympathize with those rooting for or owning a supercar seeming they paid so much for something that an econobox-derived car can out perform stock. I doubt any stock VII can outrun the Zonda much less the FQ400 and what’s the point on comparing the VII when it’s not being made anymore.

The CAR article highlights the performance aspect of the first FQ400. I can only expect better figures now seeming it’s past the October début date. It also talks about the engineering & design difference between the two to give the article more to talk about. I'm still amazed that a car with a lesser spec can outrun one with better numbers.

As a stock performance car it appears the FQ400 is the best at the moment scoring mid 3s. I'd like to see how it fairs on TG's Powerlaps. My guess is it'll take 3rd or 4th place. I have strong reservations on it being 1st or 2nd. But the Stig is welcome to prove me wrong. ;)

[evoWalo]

I do believe I'd score more chicks and turn a lot of people green with envy if I were to drive a Pagani Zonda around town. :) But at that price I may consider getting a Carrera GT. :mrgreen:

[mindgam3]

All good paints evoWALO (yes i understand the article :) ) . I just feel these cars are made for the purpose of all out performance otherwise mitsubishi/ralliart wouldn't have bothered to of made this new Evo when the comments about real world performance CAR magazine made, a normal Evo 7 would do just as well so why not compare it to that and mention its quicker to 60 than most super cars. I am trying to defend the Zonda as I think it was slightly unfairly treaded in this article. But as you pointed out to me it is not a full review/comparison.
Making comparisons between the Evo/Imprezza and supercars like the Zonda has been going on for years already. I do sympathize with those rooting for or owning a supercar seeming they paid so much for something that an econobox-derived car can out perform stock. I doubt any stock VII can outrun the Zonda much less the FQ400 and what’s the point on comparing the VII when it’s not being made anymore.

The CAR article highlights the performance aspect of the first FQ400. I can only expect better figures now seeming it’s past the October début date. It also talks about the engineering & design difference between the two to give the article more to talk about. I'm still amazed that a car with a lesser spec can outrun one with better numbers.

As a stock performance car it appears the FQ400 is the best at the moment scoring mid 3s. I'd like to see how it fairs on TG's Powerlaps. My guess is it'll take 3rd or 4th place. I have strong reservations on it being 1st or 2nd. But the Stig is welcome to prove me wrong. ;)

the evo is a good car undoubtedly but theres always been relatively cheap cars with supercar performance, eg TVR's, Nobles and caterhams etc. The zonda is a zonda though and im sure most people here would take the zonda, even given that the evo has similar performance

[SPEEDKILLAR]

And the underdog wins again, lol

But if you want top speed, then the Zonda will leave the poor EVO behind.......taa taa