Mercedes McLaren SLR, a GT ????

[bmagni]

This thing has perturbated me since the SLR was considered a GT...
the thing is that IMO mercedes says its a GT cause they couldnt develop a supercar...

so im gonna make a list of what does it make it be a gt and what a super car

GT:
Auto transmission
GPS
Auto air con
Radio

Supercar:
Engine
Perfo
Top Speed
Joint with McLaren
F1 tech
F1 design

so in my opinion its a bad supercar... and they justify saying its a GT by integrating some comfort extras...
and also one more thing, if i remember well, when the Vision SLR was presented, it was presented as a supercar not a GT

[Sm@ck]

a GT does not have to be Auto (transmission)
nor does it need GPS

how ever a GT is a 2 door car, ussually with only 2 seats. How ever enough room to take some luggage with you

[bmagni]

a GT does not have to be Auto (transmission)
nor does it need GPS

how ever a GT is a 2 door car, ussually with only 2 seats. How ever enough room to take some luggage with you

right, but those are the things that supposedly make the SLR a GT... and i think theyre usually 2+2's which the SLR isnt either

[flimboyz]

Who considered the SLR a GT ? because it's a amazing supercar !

[bmagni]

Who considered the SLR a GT ? because it's a amazing supercar !

Mercedes... and it aint that amazing... hehehe

[vexor]

I'd have to say that it is a GT car cause it's got a heavy auto transmission, leather seats, a/c, etc... it pretty much has everything a luxury car has, except a luxury car doesn't have that powerful supercharged V8 under the hood.

[gottacatchup]

I'd say GT, its a very large, heavy car with a powerfull engine but overall a suspension tuned more toward cross-country driving then the track.

[bmagni]

I'd have to say that it is a GT car cause it's got a heavy auto transmission, leather seats, a/c, etc... it pretty much has everything a luxury car has, except a luxury car doesn't have that powerful supercharged V8 under the hood.

the enzo and the cgt have a/c and leather covered seats too...

[JiggaStyles09]

yes but you cant use them everyday and have the same comfort level as with the SLR. and GT's dont have to be 2+2's because the regular SL is a 2 seater and it is considered a GT i think. if the SLR had a manual then i would agree that the SLR is in the same class as the enzo and CGT.

if you do put all3 in the same class though i wouldnt say that mercedes built a bad supercar, you could look at it as porsche and ferrari both built supercars beyond perfection. but you cant deny that they are different animals.

[bmagni]

yes but you cant use them everyday and have the same comfort level as with the SLR. and GT's dont have to be 2+2's because the regular SL is a 2 seater and it is considered a GT i think. i said most of em are 2+2...


if the SLR had a manual then i would agree that the SLR is in the same class as the enzo and CGT.
well the SLR has sequential gearbox as well as the enzo, so the only manual is the CGT


if you do put all3 in the same class though i wouldnt say that mercedes built a bad supercar, you could look at it as porsche and ferrari both built supercars beyond perfection. but you cant deny that they are different animals.
maybe not bad, but not good enough

[astonmartinandy]

Mercedes originally planned the car as a supercar to compete with Ferrari's Enzo etc, however, once Mercedes intervened and stopped McLaren from developing the "Vision SLR", they had to move the goalposts to a GT so as not to look like a failure of a joint project of the supercar that they hoped for.

[Gnome]

I would call a car with four seats a coupé. "My definitions" are something like: A GT is comfortable, user friendly sportscar with luggage space while a supercar is an extremely fast sportscar where no practical considerations comes in the way of the driving experience.

I'm honestly not sure about the SLR. I feel it's a GT. Maybe because of the shape, which resembles the SL. It is also heavy and it has a rather large boot. On the other hand, it has supercar performance, and Richard said the grip was amazing. The ride is really firm, which doesn't belong in the GT class.

It's somewhere in between the classes...

[mindgam3]

Its definately a supercar, but in my opinion its a GT as well. Just a stupidly fast one.... Theres not much that can beat it around a track in the big picture of things

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

everything is marketing matter IMO, once the segments are defined by each brand according to its interests...for instance, in general the very powerful 2 door cars are classified in two sort of class

the GT class such as the ferrari 550, the Aston Martin Vanquish, the Jag XKR, the vette, the viper, the murcielago....(2+2 cars with some level of confort, not very radical reactions when driving it)...in conclusion...cars that let do many and many kilometers on motorway in a confortable way.......and i think that Merc want to enphasize that the SLR belongs to this group

whereas the supercars spirit is totally different, its aim is to find out the maximum efficiency and sensation of a racing car on racetracks, regardless the confort, noise of the cars...this group has the following cars such as the ferrari enzo, the porsche carrera GT, the lambo diablo GT, the Pagani Zonda, the Koenisegg...

[JiggaStyles09]

well the SLR has sequential gearbox as well as the enzo, so the only manual is the CGT


im pretty sure there is no clutch in the SLR's gearbox. it can be controlled similarly to the sequential gearboxes but its not the same as the enzo's.

[Toronto]

its in a class of its own :twisted:

[mclaren_Gt]

no i dont think that, i think , the enzo is a super car the slr and gt is a sport car is all, koenigsegg is a supercar, pagani zonda is a supercar, ford gt is a sport car

[mindgam3]

in clarksons latest sunday times review he compares the SLR and CGT. He tests acceleration which he finds to be almost identicle. He tests braking from 180mph which he finds almost identicle and then his/the teams lap times for them are both identical. His opinion was the performance was almost the same, except they do it in different ways. The CGT being more hard edged and the SLR more relaxed (like a GT). He says if u want a car to do laps round a track in, its gotta be the CGT, if you want a genuine everyday hypercar, then the SLR is the way to go.

IMO i think the CGT would beat the SLR around most tracks, but the SLR wouldnt be far off. I think many people over look the fact that its faster than a zonda and koenigsegg and just about anything else bar a CGT and Enzo - how can it not be a supercar?

[wolfster]

it depends on the style you're going for..SLR is kinda more luxury, plus if you like the look of a long nose it is a definite eyecatcher. i think you have some form of paddle-shifters in it too, although it's not a true F1 paddle shift.

The GT prob appeals to more extreme sportier ppls who favor the mid-engined look more. diehard manualers will get this fo sho.

personally i like the SLR looks better cuz in the supercar world it is in the minority of front mid-engine which makes it unique. The CGT though looks like pure fun and a removable room so i'd go with that

[FordGTGuy]

no i dont think that, i think , the enzo is a super car the slr and gt is a sport car is all, koenigsegg is a supercar, pagani zonda is a supercar, ford gt is a sport car

Ford GT is faster than the SLR and the Carrera GT that you would call super cars but your saying a two door/two seater/200+ mph car that uses manual a sports car?

[bmagni]

no i dont think that, i think , the enzo is a super car the slr and gt is a sport car is all, koenigsegg is a supercar, pagani zonda is a supercar, ford gt is a sport car

Ford GT is faster than the SLR and the Carrera GT that you would call super cars but your saying a two door/two seater/200+ mph car that uses manual a sports car?

in the motor trend article i think the cgt was faster, and if its faster than the cgt and slr, why do they compare it with the CS and GT3 ???