Volkswagens 2nd "try" at supercar excellence

[racingfreak]

Well seeing that volkswagen owns bugatti and the disaster that I like to mcall the veyron, this is their second try and it just doent look that cool :?

Whould you pay like a million$ for this?

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/3388/7885.th.jpg (http://img27.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img27&image=7885.jpg)

[Vansquish]

nope...I'd pay Lamborghini Murcielago prices for that...and that's probably why they're not going to make it...it would compete too closely with the Murci.

[racingfreak]

Searched...nothing...

[racingfreak]

Well it looks a little better!

[bmagni]

as far as i know the project is in stand by

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

I think that the VW employers will be wary after the phaeton faillure...although Ferdinand Piech was clear stating that VW whould have at least one VW model in every car segment(such as the supercars, the luxurious class, the SUV....) despite the challenge against VAG group brands(and risks naturally) such as Audi(the luxurious car segment), Lamborghini and Bugatti (the supercars).....VW went ahead with its Touareg, and the Phaeton.....although the Phaetons sales are going in a good direction, the Phaeton has been a complete failure and loss of a lot of profit..(even Mr Piech has stated publicly his mistake)..thats why i told at the beginning that the VW employers musnt be as straight as already with the launch of the Nardo on the market

[Stikz]

Who in their right mind thought the Phaeton would work? It just looks like a bigger passat. There was absolutely nothing to set it apart from their entry cars.

[flimboyz]

the yellow car look amazing, any performance

[SilviaEvo]

the problem is would anyone pay that much for a Volkwagon?

[JiggaStyles09]

the problem is would anyone pay that much for a Volkwagon?
yea basically thats whats wrong with it,. it seemed top be a nice car, up to par with the 7 series and the S class, and all the other full size luxo cars and clarkson seemed to like it a lot.

however to really make it, the phaeton would have had to be extra special, be a lot better than any of its competitors, and from what i have seen it isnt.

[HeilSvenska]

the problem is would anyone pay that much for a Volkwagon?


On the contrary, the Tuareg, aso criticised for being expensive, is very successful.
I think Phaeton looks really nice and i'm sure it goes well. If I had enough money and VW fixes Phaeton's unreliability, I'd buy one for sure. In fact, I would prefer it to the 7 and S.

By the way, W12 came out first and Veyron came later, so racingfreak, W12 would be the first attempt.

Once again, if I had enough money and VW makes it, I'd buy W12. Not only is the Italdesign-Giugiaro penned sheatmetal beautiful, the interior and Engine are stunning.

[JoeHahn]

the problem is would anyone pay that much for a Volkwagon?

The car was going to be priced around that of a Porsche GT2 or 360 Modena, and have performance of that of an Enzo. I wouldnt have a problem paying that kind of money for a Volkswagen. It would have better build quality than most supercars out there and it looks absolutely gorgeous (opinion).

It has averaged 322.89km/h, more than any other modern car. It proved its speed, I certainly havent seen anything else do something similar.

The only thing coming merely close was the Lamborghini Murcielago averaging 320.023 km/h over 100 miles at Nardo, not 24hrs, or going back a long way the Porsche 928 S averaging 251.4 km/h over 24 hours

[mclaren_Gt]

i prefer the mclaren f1 for this price

[Vansquish]

Let's put it this way...I think the VW W12 would've been the only true head-to-head competitor for the Ford GT.

[mclaren_Gt]

Let's put it this way...I think the VW W12 would've been the only true head-to-head competitor for the Ford GT.

yea , may it be true

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

I wouldnt buy the VW supercar as long as they maintain making soft and confortable cars with AWD such as the Murcielago, the Gallardo or the Continental GT...im sorry but my point of view resembles a lot with the Tiff Needells and its quite different from Jeremy Clarksons

[mclaren_Gt]

Volkswagen make a production of this car
or is only a concept???

[Sir_GT]

Like somebody stated, the problem lies with the VW brand name...

VOLKWAGEN = people's car in german

take note of the word "people"

which would connotate the word "masses"

or the "public"

NOT

the "elite".

Dr. Piech's problem is very simple... his problem is that he's stupid for not being aware of what VW actually means. That is why VW will NEVER be able to justify a high price tag for any of its cars.

[tigerx]

^ badging and name isn't all that say about the car company ^.

the VX220 is and VX220 turbo are both Vauxhall but ppl buy them because they're amazing.

you can't go by wut the company's rep.

[mclaren_Gt]

Like somebody stated, the problem lies with the VW brand name...

VOLKWAGEN = people's car in german

take note of the word "people"

which would connotate the word "masses"

or the "public"

NOT

the "elite".

Dr. Piech's problem is very simple... his problem is that he's stupid for not being aware of what VW actually means. That is why VW will NEVER be able to justify a high price tag for any of its cars.

oooo very interesting, people car, wow

thanks for the information

[redbaron]

The Nardo/W12 was ready to go in production. But at the time it was ready (2002) the world economy collapsed and Piech left his position. This project was one of the prestige-projects which were cancelled by Pischetsrieder (Piechs continuator). At that time the new developing Golf was already too expensive, so was the Polo, the Phaeton was just launched and doing bad. Pischetsrieder wanted VW to make VOLKSwagens again and no predating between the VAG-brands anymore. So the Nardo was cancelled at the last moment...

[gottacatchup]

If they switched out the VW for the "4 rings" i might pay a million, otherwise....150,000 tops

[racingfreak]

to an audi... your kidding right? Wont pay that much for either!

[bmwmpower]

wolkswgen V12 is down,they turn off project,

[FordGTGuy]

the nardo is a very ugly car its in PGR2.

[wolfster]

or they could build the audi le mans prototype with it's bi-turbo v10..which could compete with the Ford GT

[HeilSvenska]

Which will not have Biturbo V10 in its production guise.