View Full Version : WTF was Montoya thinking!
I dont know why montoya would try to pass Trulli in the middle of the bustop.Some people respect him because he attepts passes other drivers would not even think of,buy unlike with M.S. Trulli was not giving him much room.Trulli was clearly heading for the inside of the corner seconds before montoya was inside of trulli.
SFDMALEX
08-30-2004, 12:12 AM
Montoya is a plain retard. Never liked him and never will. He's not a driver he's a joke! He doesnt understand his car and never will. He is just an idiot who some how manages to operate the throttle and wheel. His attempt to pass Trulli just proved what in idiot he is. Trying to pass on an apex of a corner like that one? WTF was he thinking?
Montoya should race bumper karts and not F1 race cars!
yg60m
08-30-2004, 01:40 AM
I like him but i wonder who will be the best in Mclaren. I think Kimi will teach JP who is the Boss but it will be tight.
Anyway, it seems that Williams miss Ralf Schumacher for his feedback on technical questions ... (read that but not sure if it's true)
dingo
08-30-2004, 03:11 AM
I agree with dani_d_mas, it wasn't really Montoya's fault. He was far enough along side Trulli and was obviously faster so Trulli should've given him more racing room. I think JPM is good for F1, at least he gives it a go and creates a little excitement.
jakaracman
08-30-2004, 03:23 AM
Exactly. At least someone makes F1 racing more exciting. And if someone is not capable of racing side by side (as Schumi and JPM are) then he is a bad racing driver...
Ford Capri 2.8i
08-30-2004, 03:04 PM
I think the formula 1 enthusiasts shouldnt understimate Juan Pablo Montoya once he is very quick and he is very agressive when driving, and these things make the formula 1 spectacular.......as Nigel Mansell when he was a formula 1 driver, as the beginning of Senna as well.....these Montoyas overtake makes the formula 1 more interesting, once winning a formula 1 race based on strategy rather than on overtaking, makes the formula 1 much more boring.....
hiroshima
08-30-2004, 07:44 PM
Trying to pass on an apex of a corner like that one? WTF was he thinking?
Well, maybe he was thinking the same thing he though when he overtaked Schumacher in the same corner, the same way!
If worked before, it should worked again, I mean, if Trulli wasn't so...how can I say this...stupid?!
chipanggo
08-30-2004, 11:13 PM
well, i guess montoya got carried away because he pulled off the maneuver to michael earlier. he may have thought he could do it again with trulli this time. now we know he thought wrong. :(
SFDMALEX
08-31-2004, 12:25 AM
I think the formula 1 enthusiasts shouldnt understimate Juan Pablo Montoya once he is very quick and he is very agressive when driving, and these things make the formula 1 spectacular.......as Nigel Mansell when he was a formula 1 driver, as the beginning of Senna as well.....these Montoyas overtake makes the formula 1 more interesting, once winning a formula 1 race based on strategy rather than on overtaking, makes the formula 1 much more boring.....
But there is a big difference between smart agressive driving, when both drivers know the limits and stupid racing like that coming out of Montoya all the time. His cokiens and his other bullshit are too much. Just like the Imola race. First he cries about getting bulldozed offroad and then he does the same to his teamate! :x
Montoya should not be in F1. He is stupid. Has a bad personallity and buy the looks of it I dont think he is capable of writting an essay in neither english nor spanish.
He proved too many times what an idiot he is. And yes he does bring some excitment but he still is a stupid prick. He will throw a nuke at you but when you do the same he starts crying like an ugly bitch on a prom night without a date.
Bottom Like- FUCK MONTOYA
mindgam3
08-31-2004, 06:56 AM
I think Montoya is wa to cocky and seems to argue and disagree with eveyone but he is a good driver. He's the one brave enough to make these moves and hes exciting to watch, once he gets his arse in gear. And as someone said, he pulled the exact same move on MS and michael had to lift otherwise an accident would've occured. In the trulli incident, montoya couldnt have been any further to his right without being on the grass and trulli was still taking the racing line, which he is entitled to do so, but montoya was the faster man on the day and to avoid an accident he should've moved over
racingfreak
09-05-2004, 11:06 AM
The thing about montoya is that he doent give a flying f#@k what the rest of the people think of his aggresive driving style... The thing is just that it is that carefree mindset that is costing him from being a great instead of just a good driver!!!
sameerrao
09-05-2004, 03:54 PM
The difference between Schumacher and Trulli is the difference between a good driver and a bad driver. When Montoya took his position in both overtakings, Schumacher saw the risk of a crash and opened the door, knowing that possibily in the following pit stop he would have passed Montoya again. Trulli... simply not.
My take is different ..... Possibly he was in Trulli's blind spot and Trulli didnt see him. Also Montoya should have yielded in the middle part of the bus stop as he was behind Trulli at that stage....
Caps8419
09-06-2004, 12:06 AM
i agree.. from what i saw JPMoron's front wing was near trulli's
side intake when they were in the middle... there's no way trulli could have seen him and montoya probably knew that. he should have backed off not nailed right into his tire and end trulli's race... im glad his tire blew.... stupid montoya... i feel bad for Pizzonia. he was racing quite well before his car gave up.... williams should hold on too that one.
sameerrao
09-06-2004, 12:09 AM
Here's what Martin Brundle had to say about this incident
Q: Thank you for your very interesting comments on race day, week after week. Now it seems to me that JPM is the cause of far more collisions and accidents than successful passing moves. Therefore I ask: What do you think of JPM's driving? Do you think he is really good or just a very brave driver afflicted with room-temperature IQ?
Patrice Lavoie
Ottawa, Canada
A: All Grand Prix drivers, by necessity have an unusually high amount of confidence and often inevitably therefore arrogance. JPM is a very exciting driver to watch as he will have a go and his move on Michael at the Bus Stop last Sunday in Spa was pure opportunist brilliance.
Montoya’s next move on Trulli at the same place was ill-judged to say the least. He was nowhere near far enough alongside and there was a point, which I think would have come over in the commentary, where there was a very high possibility that Jarno Trulli would have no idea he was there.
The field of vision in the mirrors of a single seater is very poor and is restricted to very much looking through your rear wing and over your rear tyres. This is one of the many aspects of driving a Formula 1 car that I explain in my new book ‘Working the Wheel’ to be published on 14 October.
Once a driver moves out of that limited zone you can only guess, through experience, where he is going to be next. Jarno could have made more of an allowance but in my view JPM was out of order, as he has been on a number of occasions.
As they say about the lottery ‘If you’re not in it, you can’t win it.’ By the same token if you don’t attempt overtaking moves then you will never have a chance of passing people. Providing the vast majority of them are successful then it is great stuff.
If you want to win a lot of races and championships you have to get the percentages right and it seems to me that JPM too often ends up with a high exposure to damaging his own car, race and even championship as we saw with his contretemps with Rubens Barrichello at Indianapolis 2003 down at the first chicane.
I like your one-liner about ‘room temperature IQ’ which I may well steal and use one day on TV, but I don’t think it is applicable to JPM.
snacky
09-06-2004, 12:47 AM
JPM seems pretty quick, but he is so stupid sometimes ! :lol:
Caps8419
09-06-2004, 01:06 AM
sometimes? jeez....
jakaracman
09-06-2004, 02:52 AM
I just hope that FIA chenges the rules. No more who ws ahead before the corner, just: if they are side by side (no matter how much, even by few cm), drivers have to give each other room ...
Caps8419
09-06-2004, 07:23 PM
sure that would make it much safer. but it would seem that every overtaking maneuver would be a result of the rule not the skill of a driver. of course your exaggerating ( even a few cm) but i would rather see a driver earn a position not have it deemed to him. but hey thats my opinion.
MB300E87
09-07-2004, 12:41 AM
JPM sometimes has too much attitude for his own good. while its nice to have some personality in the drivers... sometimes, it gets in the way of the racing.
sikx5
09-07-2004, 01:08 AM
LOL....this topic should of been made a sticky from the start of the F1 season.....every race that bloody coloumbian drug dealer fucks up :lol:
jakaracman
09-07-2004, 02:55 AM
sure that would make it much safer. but it would seem that every overtaking maneuver would be a result of the rule not the skill of a driver. of course your exaggerating ( even a few cm) but i would rather see a driver earn a position not have it deemed to him. but hey thats my opinion.
It is not given to him. You have to get to the side of the other guy first, then you have to get in front of him. Being on the inside is far from completed overtakig - you have to give the other guy room on the outside at the corner ext, which means that your exit speed is lower ...
ZfrkS62
09-10-2004, 12:25 AM
If JPM could reign in his impulses he would give the top drivers a run for their money. he has proven he can handle the FW26A (tusks), despite the aerodynamic deficiencies the car suffered in the corners, a problem Ralf was not able to figure out.
As for Juan and Kimi being teammates? I don't think that would work very well. Kimi has been conditioned to believe that he is McLaren's no.1 driver and that is an attitude that would clash heavily with Juan's. If those two become teammates, McLaren will be at the back of the grid with Minardi and Jordan.
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