Alfa Romeo exclusive topic...

[Mr.Vercetti]

Alfisti fans in this topic you r invited to share ur thoughts about our favourite car manufacturer Alfa Romeo.


Plz keep this topic up!
Thank you.


So, Im going to start this thread with the folowing:
Which is ur favourite modern Alfa model?

[Tsjilp]

whay about making a poll of it ...

[Fleischmann]

My dad went to England some time ago for a business trip. Of course he needed a car, so he hired one...he had to choose between: a white Renault Laguna, a green Ford Mondeo (both had about 60000 clicks done) or a brand new navy Alfa Romeo 156 (2L engine) :D Guess what he chose ?? :D And what's most amazing...all these cars were in the same price range!!

Yeah, the 156 is currently my favourite model. The new generation version looks even more agressivce and classy. The 147GTA comes a close second with it's 325BHP (as far as I remember), which is pretty insane for a FWD car.

[Tsjilp]

The 147GTA comes a close second with it's 325BHP (as far as I remember), which is pretty insane for a FWD car.

correction 250 Hp :D which is already "enough" for a FWD


personally I love the Alfa GT, but my all time favorite is the 155 (the sporty ones)

[Tsjilp]

The 147GTA comes a close second with it's 325BHP (as far as I remember), which is pretty insane for a FWD car.

correction 250 Hp :D which is already "enough" for a FWD

The 147 GTA Autodelta is the one with 325hp. The original one only has 250hp in a 3.0V6 while the Autodelta is 3.2 I think.


The original 147 GTA is a 3.2 V6 250 Hp ...

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

sorry for correcting you dani, but the alfa GTAs have a 3200cc engine

About my opinions of alfas..for instance ive never considered to buy an alfa once ive been always very concerned about its reliability and very wary as a result before buying any car......if it werent for its image here in Spain, any alfa could have been considered in my tastes, once any version of alfa has always given some sensation of crispy car, nimble.......anyway....apart from the 147 GTA.....the others alfas that i consider as some of the bests sportiest cars ever are the GTV-6, and the Alfa 75 V6 America (192bhp version, the second version of america), nonetheless..... the red Alfa Sprint QV was a beautiful car during and its technical data was interesting as well

[Mr.Vercetti]

The 147 GTA has the 3.2 V6, 250bhp.
The Autodelta 147 has exactly the same engine but its displacement is 3.7cc/328bhp.

[dingo]

I don't mind Alfas either, not my first choice for a car but nice nonetheless.
I have driven my parents neighbours 156 and it was quite a nice car.
There are a ton of Alfa's in the area I live in so if you like I can take a few photos and post them.

[fedezyl]

Well, i'm an Alfa fan and so is my dad, he owns a 146 Ti, the one in my signature and I have a 1971 Giulia soon to enter restoration, in a week or so, oh it's 1.6 liter engine too..

[360modena]

Well it's cool to see so much alfa fan in the community. My favorite modern one is the 156 GTA for beauty and sportivity ability. So for the older car please ask question by decade it will be easier to choose (not sure finally :wink:).

[Mr.Vercetti]

I never answered to this topic... :P So here's my answer. As far as modern street Alfa's is concerned my fav. one is 156 GTA. Aggresive, serious looks, superb engine, amazing handling(considering that we'r talking about a car with 250bhp in the front wheels), vgood quality. Ohh and of course the option to turn VDC completely off.

Now, as far as modern race Alfa's is concerned, my fav. is 155 DTM. You know, that red one that used to roar through the DTM racetracks. :D :mrgreen:

[sikx5]

I gotta say the 155 has it, the noise is just amazing, that raspy note is awesome!

[gbg]

i love the 166, a very comfortable car with a nice engine and a great sound system

although alfas are a bit expensive in my country, and for the price of a new 166 i would rather pick a BMW

[Attie]

My favourite modern Alfas are the 156 GTA and the GTV.
For the older one I like the 75 3.0 V6 America. I had one. I had to sell it :( But I plan to own an other again. :twisted:

Now I drive a 155, but this is nothing compare to the 75. No rear drive, no V6 :( Anyway I'm not complaint, I love it too :) And in the DTM the 155s beat everybody! :)

Forza Alfa Romeo! :D

[gucom]

i like the GT alot, it looks lower than other alfa's (probably is), and it just looks GOOD in my opinion...plus a friend's father has one, and i know that, if you rev it, i SOUNDS good too :D

[Dave1]

My favourite Alfa is the 164 Q4. I have a soft spot for the 164 as my dad bought one when it first came out (1990 I think?). It was a 3.0 litre V6 12 valve and he fitted a full straight through exhaust (no cats in those days) and the sound was astonishing!! :shock: It is looking a bit dated now but at the time it looked soooo much better than the chod that the likes of BMW and Mercedes where churning out. We parked it on the street once, went into a shop and when we came out there were about five people around it peering in the windows. I don't know of any other car the costs £20,000 that attracts that kind of attention. On the bad side it also attracted the attention of the local car thieves and also the police.

There was a 164 Q4 for sale on ebay the other day. anyone see it/buy it?

The 156 (not the GTA) is the best looking saloon car ever made bar none!! My father also had one of these (2.5 v6) but it was a big disappointment in the engine department compared to the 164. The engine has no power unless your on the cam (4500 rpm). My Dad says Alfa made the engine like that to dial out the torque steer but it has spoilt the driving experience IMO.

I drive a fiat bravo at the moment (don't take the piss) and will buy an alfa when they make a car as good looking as the 156 that is rear wheel drive. :lol:

[Porsche911r101]

My mother has a black alfa 146 2.0 TS 3door, im about to buy her an new exhaust something bassy and loud, and its a really nice car.

my dad also has a 147, but flip painted 5 door, which has all the extras including Bose Stero ect.

Coming from Golf mk3's and 4's we much prefer the alfas.

[Attie]

My mother has a black alfa 146 2.0 TS 3door, im about to buy her an new exhaust something bassy and loud, and its a really nice car.



Errr the 146 has 5 door. The 145 has 3 door. Which one do your mother have? :)

[stradale]

As you can see in my sig I love Alfas too. From the current range I think I like the GT best, although the facelifted 156 is a very close second.

Of the older cars I could go on and on (Tipo 33 stradale, Giulietta Spider, 2000 GTV, TZ1, TZ2 etc. etc.).

For the future I wish Alfa would go back to building rear wheel drive cars. If it were possible I would also like that they would continue building their engines by themselves completely. Oh yeah, and they start production on the 8C Competizione as soon as possible! There are rumours going on that Alfa Romeo decided to cancel the project... :cry:

[Dave1]

Oh yeah, and they start production on the 8C Competizione as soon as possible! There are rumours going on that Alfa Romeo decided to cancel the project


I agree stunning car. I heard those rumours too, something about the figures not adding up. Sounds like a decision from the Alfa Romeo accountants. If they do decide not to put it into production it will be a real shame but not a huge surprise. :(

However the future looks bright for Alfa with a move to 4WD (it’s a start), and then hopefully to RWD. :D

[stradale]

I agree stunning car. I heard those rumours too, something about the figures not adding up. Sounds like a decision from the Alfa Romeo accountants. If they do decide not to put it into production it will be a real shame but not a huge surprise. :(


The new rumour is that the project could make a profit, but that the new Fiat president di Montezemolo (who doesn't know him?) thinks the 8C Competizione would venture too much into Maserati territory. He may be right, but I also reckon AR needs the big image boost the 8C can provide.

The Fiat group screwed up not long ago when it had the chance to do the same for Lancia (with the new Fulvia concept) and I hope it won't repeat that with AR.

[numerouno]

All you Ferrari lovers gotta remember that Enzo Ferrari starded his dream as an Alfa Romeo race driver, and even Scuderia Ferrari team emerged as a team from within the Alfa. So they've got a very very rich heritage. I hope that the Fiat owners don't ruin their potential by marketing strategies.

BTW I love many of the Alfa models. Of the new ones, the 156GTA and 147GTA are wonderful looking. Just look at the harmonious flowing of all the main body lines on the 147 meeting each other at the car's trademark grille (It's like a center of gravity or a source to all the car's lines) and you'll fall in love with it instantly. :fadein:

[Porsche911r101]

My mother has a black alfa 146 2.0 TS 3door, im about to buy her an new exhaust something bassy and loud, and its a really nice car.



Errr the 146 has 5 door. The 145 has 3 door. Which one do your mother have? :)

sorry, typo, mum has 147 3 door, dad has 147 five door.

[Mr.Vercetti]

M8s the 8c Competizione IS going to be produced... Last year when it was shown for the first time, the interior was hidden.. In the Paris motorshow that took place a couple of days ago, the 8c Copetizione was there.. And quess what.. The interior was fully reveiled and its not a prototypes interior, it is like it is rdy to enter production, as well as the engine.... :mrgreen:

[Dave1]

Mr. Vercetti I would love to say that you are right but I'm sceptical because Alfa are famous for talking the talk and not delivering. below is a link to an article about the 8C at the Paris motor show (you've probably see it but for those who haven’t). I'm not sure the engine is ready as the engine bay looks a mess :(

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2004/motor_show/paris/report/alfa/8c/2809.html

If they do make it how much do think it will cost? £60,000 about the same price of a 4200GT ?

[Dave1]

Some pics a guy on the alfa forum took at a motor show in Australia.

http://www.toyeuk2001.copperstream.co.uk/Alfa%20Romeo%208C%201.jpg

http://www.toyeuk2001.copperstream.co.uk/Alfa%20Romeo%208C%202.jpg

http://www.toyeuk2001.copperstream.co.uk/Alfa%20Romeo%208C%203.jpg

http://www.toyeuk2001.copperstream.co.uk/Alfa%20Romeo%208C%204.jpg

[Gnome]

... the engine bay looks a mess :(
That's a good point. This doesn't look like a Alfa Romeo engine bay! They are undoubtably the kings of engine styling! Even though the engine is from Maserati the engine bay shouldn't be that messy.

[Wutputt]

It still isn't the production version. The engine of the final version of the car will probably look gorgious.

btw, the Alfa badge on the engine looks like they had to stick it very fast on it with Pritt

[Mr.Vercetti]

Its now certain that the 8C Competiizone is going to be released, perhaps one year after the new GTV(which is going to be almost the same with the Brera prototype.) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Dave1]

Its now certain that the 8C Competiizone is going to be released, perhaps one year after the new GTV(which is going to be almost the same with the Brera prototype.)


Thats great news :D Any ideas on price? I read somewhere that alfa were thinking of charging £100,000 for it :shock: But wait 3 years and you'll be able to pick one up for about £20,000 :wink:

[aks]

Its now certain that the 8C Competiizone is going to be released, perhaps one year after the new GTV(which is going to be almost the same with the Brera prototype.)


Thats great news :D Any ideas on price? I read somewhere that alfa were thinking of charging £100,000 for it :shock: But wait 3 years and you'll be able to pick one up for about £20,000 :wink:

LOL, i think this is gonna be one Alfa that will keep it's resale value quite well!

i heard from our Alfa salesman that it will be comin out as 2006 model

[Attie]

Yes, you can find the planned future models @ http://www.italiaspeed.com/newsite/futuremodels.htm

There are very nice things :) but I'm affraid they will be very expensive :(
After 10 yeras maybe I can own one :)

[Iwan]

hi all, i also check italiaspeed on a daily basis and a serious tip - do not rely on
the upcoming engine datas (wishful thinking of the editor). an example.....

1992 (or 93) alfa romeo presented the 164 QV with 232 hp, in 2002 they
presented the 156 GTA with 250 hp - so it took them 10 years to elaborate
18 hp (please don't argue wit emission datas like EURO1, 2 etc....other
manufactures had the same barriers). i don't say we won't have more powerful
engines in the future but just wait until the cars are at the dealers showroom - too
much rumours are going around.

to bring this thread back to the topic.

my favorite modern alfa romeo is

1. GT
2. GTV (a.f.)
3. 166

as a heavy alfa fan i'm probably not really objective, but take the current GTV - this
car was designed in 92/93 and presented to the market in 94 and you still can
order it.....and...personally......the style & design of the GTV still beats
some other looking sportscoupe's from the presence....


cheerio,
iwan

[ferrarif1fan89]

i love all alfas, but to put 330 hp (autodelta Gt) through the front wheels doesnt sound like a good idea. i do look forward to the revival of sporty awd models though. it would have a bias towards the rear wheels making it a sportier drive then the current models. but i must say, the current gt, 147gta, 156 gta are screamers. and they're drop-dead gorgeous!

[Mr.Vercetti]

Lots of new exciting things are about to happen in the Alfa. In the Geneva motor show we are going to see for the first time the 159 and the Brera. Caaaant wait!