View Full Version : M16 Replaced by the XM8
FordGTGuy
08-12-2004, 05:20 PM
http://www.pumi.ch/tomb/m16.jpg
out with the old.
http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/oicw/xm8-1r.jpg
in with the new.
you'll have to do some research I don't know that much about it yet.
Be sweet if we started seeing that in CS and other games :twisted: . They compared the Ak to the M16 on the Discovery Channel a while back, the Ak won. Be cool to see how this one stacks up.
FordGTGuy
08-12-2004, 05:33 PM
This one is apposed to own. They are distrubuting them this coming summer 2005.
Nik^XeN
08-12-2004, 05:36 PM
M16 is light ass hell!, you can't someone good with it... so it would be good to replace !!
wen the soldiers in Vietnam first got the M16, They taugh it was a joke!
FordGTGuy
08-12-2004, 05:40 PM
m16 did own tho. that gun was killer. but the name of this gun is.
XM8 lightwieght Assult Rifle.
Ghostbat
08-12-2004, 05:50 PM
m16 did own tho. that gun was killer. but the name of this gun is.
XM8 lightwieght Assult Rifle.
Well pretty much all guns are killers but for a fact the M16 was never a good weapon. Problems with the climate in Vietnam and problems with the sand in Iraq/Kuwait. I'd say it's about time they replace it.
Nik^XeN
08-12-2004, 05:50 PM
m16 was a good weapon, but not better than any other rifle...
it did kill because every one had it! :wink:
but it is very accurasy for its time.. and alot of mods!
If you ask me the army should have bought LR300 LM! instead of the Colt..
gucom
08-12-2004, 06:19 PM
XM8 is the rifle part of the OICW (objective individual combat weapon) program, fires kinetic energy 5.56 rounds at the mo, but cos of the demand for more powerful rounds, 6.8 cal are being tested. Itll be easily configurable for different models (sniper, rifle, carbine, CQB) and possibly even caliber rounds. Its designed by Heckler & Koch and produced by heckler&koch USA because of the restriction of import weapons in hte US. its made for a big deal out of plastics and the like to make it light, and it needs very little maintenance (20k rounds fired in desert testign without cleaning, no jams reported) for more info visit www.hk-usa.com or www.hkpro.com
Damn i didnt even realize the Landwarrior system was coming out so soon. I feel sorry for anyone that opooses us now, once that system is fully ready its over. Is this just the first phase of the OICW gun? Looks alot like the german G-36.
FordGTGuy
08-12-2004, 08:26 PM
20k ithe deserts w/o one jam damn their fucked if they send those to Iraq to supply their new governments army.
Stikz
08-12-2004, 09:25 PM
i doubt the states would be giving this gun away any time soon, just doesn't make sense. For all its advancements its probably got some big tactical edge. Probably don't want China to get its hands on it and start bootlegging it.
SilviaEvo
08-13-2004, 12:14 AM
the new gun looks weird
Stikz
08-13-2004, 01:11 AM
Advancements are not always good. That gun might be very high tech, but will it work 100% in combat situation, when there's rain, dry sand, snow or -25°C temperature? Only time will tell that. AK and it's descendants have proven to work, even when there's some sand in the box.
I still don't see them giving them away to anybody.
FordGTGuy
08-13-2004, 01:23 AM
AKs were sold hugly by Russia after the Cold War.
didn't you read what that guy wrote about it in the desert man.
China wouldn't even know how to use it lol!
Anyway all the weapons we sell we keep tabs on unlike Russia.
i doubt the states would be giving this gun away any time soon, just doesn't make sense. For all its advancements its probably got some big tactical edge. Probably don't want China to get its hands on it and start bootlegging it.
Advancements are not always good. That gun might be very high tech, but will it work 100% in combat situation, when there's rain, dry sand, snow or -25°C temperature? Only time will tell that. AK and it's descendants have proven to work, even when there's some sand in the box.
the M16 sucked in Vietnam in its first version, It jammed alot, and misfired. then they took away the full auto mode, and fixed some things and it works fine now.
Chaos in 1983!
08-13-2004, 12:39 PM
the M16 was good weapon...my uncle has one and I've shot with it...and it feels weak, I mean it doesn't kick you hard...but it's really good...
I'm sure whaterver they come up with next will be good...so I gues this XM8 will be better than the M16...altough I don't like the name...M16 sounded bad ass..
Ian_yamaue
08-13-2004, 02:01 PM
the M16 was good weapon...my uncle has one and I've shot with it...and it feels weak, I mean it doesn't kick you hard...but it's really good...
I'm sure whaterver they come up with next will be good...so I gues this XM8 will be better than the M16...altough I don't like the name...M16 sounded bad ass..
The low recoil is cuz of the ammo the M-16 uses the .223remington (5,56x45 Nato), wich is smaller than others like the russian 7.62x39 and the 7.62x51 Nato, but not underpowered.
The name XM8 sounds very spookie, I prefer M-16 too.
Ian_yamaue
08-13-2004, 02:06 PM
I found some pics from XM8 Prototype.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/speedlord/xm8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/speedlord/xm8-s.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/speedlord/xm8-c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/speedlord/xm8-ar.jpg
More info here:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm
Nik^XeN
08-13-2004, 02:11 PM
it looks nicer here... i can live with it :!:
gucom
08-13-2004, 02:20 PM
Well although it was developed for the US government, its still a weapon from Heckler&Koch, i dont see why they couldn't sell it to other countries if they wanted.
BTW about the G36, thats also a H&K weapon, and the XM8 is largely based on it, only with new features.
On the OICW, this is just the rifle part, the part where it turns into a sci-fi weapon with all the computed gadgetry is gonna take awhile to be released.
Ian_yamaue
08-13-2004, 02:54 PM
it looks nicer here... i can live with it :!:
Yeah, looks like Sci-Fi stuff. 8)
Well although it was developed for the US government, its still a weapon from Heckler&Koch, i dont see why they couldn't sell it to other countries if they wanted.
BTW about the G36, thats also a H&K weapon, and the XM8 is largely based on it, only with new features.
On the OICW, this is just the rifle part, the part where it turns into a sci-fi weapon with all the computed gadgetry is gonna take awhile to be released.
The OICW is lunatic, it has a highexplosive programmable ammo that blast in the progremmed distance.
The OCSW programm uses the same concept ammo. It's intended to replace the .50 Browning and the MK-19.
blinkmeat
08-14-2004, 07:51 AM
It's Starship Troopers man. What a stupid piece of engineering, but thats another story I guess
FordGTGuy
08-14-2004, 01:09 PM
yeah thats what I thought lets just say fuck it and make Masterchiefs gun from halo. I reakky like ihs pistol BTW.
Nik^XeN
08-14-2004, 01:26 PM
LOL all those weapons are half fake
Starship Troopers 1, had Famas with shotgun Mod. hahaha!!!
Fun =D, If i should pick a weapon it would be the LR300 ML :twisted:
Nik^XeN
08-14-2004, 02:10 PM
LOL, now its a normal Rifle :P
I can show you one picture but it is a Animated! not reall...
buy hell you'll know the looks of it!
http://www.terahertzcomputing.com/uploads/lr.jpg
gucom
08-14-2004, 03:14 PM
most 5.56 assault rifles dont differ alot..sometimes a bit in ease of use/maintenance...but u'dneed a real change in configuration to get a big difference, like the Steyr AUG (bullpup design, like the SA80 which is used in UK), thats a very good weapon, the dutch army did a test of assault weps and th eAUG came out best but cos of politics we got the Diemaco C7 (Diemaco is canadian, and the canadian government would buy from dutch industry if we bought that 1...lives of soldiers for money...fuckheads..).
Nik^XeN
08-14-2004, 03:31 PM
yes Steyr Aug's and L85a1's are nice assault rifle too, but i prefair classic arms
gucom
08-14-2004, 04:10 PM
no but a friend of mine has an officer who was involved in the testing program (ok i know its hearsay) and he said that most of the standard configuration weapons are very much alike in terms of shooting, that ease of use, maintenance and also the options (like mountings for scopes/lights etc etc) are the things they differ in, not the actual shooting
ae86_16v
08-15-2004, 05:00 PM
m16 was a good weapon, but not better than any other rifle...
it did kill because every one had it! :wink:
but it is very accurasy for its time.. and alot of mods!
If you ask me the army should have bought LR300 LM! instead of the Colt..
If I remember correctly, the M16 wasn't designed to kill. It was suppose to be design to take down someone.
The object was to take the person down, so his/her fellow soldiers will have to rescue them, thus tying up personally.
Nik^XeN
08-16-2004, 11:58 AM
/\/\ I don't know that, could be? but THE m16 is designed to kill... 5.56mm
But maybe in the first place or a prototype was designed for strategie, next to other rifle's/handguns
Ian_yamaue
08-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Real, they designed the M-16 to disable the enemy not to kill. By wounding a soldier they reduce the enemy force in plus them 1 man per enemy hit, cuz they have to carry the wounded one, what didn't happens when 1 r killed.
So they made a prototype "flechete bullet" a bullet that appears to be a dart.
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