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mindgam3
08-10-2004, 10:19 AM
I would scan the pics, (they don't have them on the website) but I bought EVO instead ;)

From AutoExpress:

"World exclusive pictures in this week's mag prove Lotus is working on a new GT - and it's set to take on the Noble M12. The mag's spies caught the stunning newcomer testing near the company's headquarters in Hethel, Norfolk

Bosses at Lotus say the car is currently a prototype, but is being seriously considered for a showroom debut. Our sources have hinted that the green light for production is merely a formality, and that the machine could easily be on sale in the UK as soon as 2006.

The manufacturer has already taken on an extra 100 employees recently, chiefly to satisfy increased demand for the Elise both at home and abroad - but it's likely that an all-new model could mean even more jobs being created. The car, which could see the famous Excel or Elite names making a comeback, will slot into the Lotus range above the Elise, and is tipped to weigh in at around the £40,000 mark.

A 2+2 version of the newcomer is also being considered, with a larger cabin allowing for two occasional seats in the rear. If this machine gets the go-ahead, it will be the first four-seater Lotus has produced since the 1984 Excel.

A source told us: "There's a huge amount of excitement surrounding the project. Officially, the machine is a concept in development.

"This is not a replacement for the Elise, but a car that offers touring capability and will be positioned above it in the market." The model will feature a sporty new chassis, using the same bonded aluminium structure as the Elise, and will come with a mid-mounted engine.

The company has yet to finalise what the definitive powerplant will be but, as with the Elise, it's likely to be sourced from Toyota, as the two manufacturers have a strong working relationship. Insiders have hinted that the glassfibre-bodied GT is set to offer around 300bhp, and will be fitted with a close-ratio six-speed manual transmission.

But while it will be seen as a sporting car, the newcomer will be more geared up for touring than track action. The mag's spy shots show how it will be significantly wider than the Elise, giving a more comfortable and spacious interior. The revolutionary model will also aim to be the most practical Lotus since the last Elite went out of production back in 1991, with a genuinely roomy luggage bay at the rear, behind the engine cover.

Company engineers are believed to be working on a unique suspension set-up for the car, with softer spring rates than those on the Elise and an all-new wishbone arrangement at the front. But that's not to say the GT won't have the fine handling for which Lotus has become renowned over the years - insiders have hinted that the wide track will give it even more grip than the already limpet-like Elise.

The secret model coincides with the firm's ambitious plans to expand into new markets around the globe. "We want it to be a world car, as we have stated in the past," revealed our source. "It will take on America and other markets where we want the brand to grow."

Lotus is already expanding in the US, after the latest-generation Elise was granted a temporary exemption from stringent crash test legislation that would otherwise have made it impossible to sell the model in the States. Although law makers recognise that the Lotus is a safe vehicle, the regulations declare that all cars sold in the country must have bumpers of a certain depth - as it stands, the Elise doesn't comply, although negotiations are currently underway to get the issue resolved.

The British company has been absent from the American market since the Esprit went out of production earlier this year. However, it is now looking to expand its dealer network to distribute 3,000 cars annually on the other side of the Atlantic. The new GT is expected to boost sales even further, with as many as 5,000 examples tipped to be exported every year. Craig Cheetham "

No.1
08-10-2004, 10:21 AM
Hmm.. i hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as the M250 Concept :|

But Lotus does need to expand it's product range rapidly, with an Esprit replacement... i really want this to work out :D

yg60m
08-10-2004, 10:43 AM
No indications on the engine ? To bad they let the V8, it doesn't live a long time :( And it was a so good engine, conceived in a very short time.

rob_e1
08-10-2004, 11:33 AM
The car in the spy shots that accompanied this article looked just like a fat elise, so i'm guessing a bigger toyota 4 cylinder or maybe stock celica/elise engine with a supercharger maybe to get the 300 bhp they mention?

Looks interesting.. :)

mindgam3
08-10-2004, 11:34 AM
Well knowing lotus, we know its going to handle well, its just the case of the styling and engine.... we shall soon see ;)

AlienDB7
08-10-2004, 11:52 AM
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae_news_story.php?id=48833

No.1
08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
So here is the first pic... the mag's front cover :wink:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_31/car_portal_pic_15873.jpg

RC45
08-10-2004, 12:05 PM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

mindgam3
08-10-2004, 12:13 PM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

At least they're actually selling some in america unlike GM with their vette in europe ;)

RC45
08-10-2004, 12:42 PM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

At least they're actually selling some in america unlike GM with their vette in europe ;)

If you are going to offer counter points - please at least be factual. :)

GM sells more Corvettes on the world export market than Lotus makes cars each year :)

possessed_beaver
08-10-2004, 12:48 PM
So here is the first pic... the mag's front cover :wink:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_31/car_portal_pic_15873.jpg

duno who else see's this but "rx8"

also RC45, lotus's (in australia) are incredibley expensive and for about $20 000 more here, you can get a BMW M3 or something with a boot.

im guessing they will be launched in america, when lotus makes it's return to the US market.

mindgam3
08-10-2004, 01:22 PM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

At least they're actually selling some in america unlike GM with their vette in europe ;)

If you are going to offer counter points - please at least be factual. :)

GM sells more Corvettes on the world export market than Lotus makes cars each year :)

I'll try find some for you ;)

But i bet, as a proportion of the total amount of lotus's sold each year, more are sold in america than the proportion of the total amount of vettes that are sold in the uk

Ian_yamaue
08-10-2004, 02:12 PM
Wow, look stunning.

tigerx
08-10-2004, 02:17 PM
wow that doesn't look as good as the exige, but pretty handsome still. kinda like the speedster IMO

RC45
08-10-2004, 02:32 PM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

At least they're actually selling some in america unlike GM with their vette in europe ;)

If you are going to offer counter points - please at least be factual. :)

GM sells more Corvettes on the world export market than Lotus makes cars each year :)

I'll try find some for you ;)

But i bet, as a proportion of the total amount of lotus's sold each year, more are sold in america than the proportion of the total amount of vettes that are sold in the uk

I'd go one step further, and say that if it wasn't for wealthy Yanks buying Lotii - they would have gone out of business decades ago.. :P

yg60m
08-10-2004, 02:57 PM
I think RC45 is right on this one, USA bought lot of Lotus Esprit , i think it was its biggest market for this car :wink:

mindgam3
08-10-2004, 03:02 PM
lol, that just proves my point then, if its a good car it will sell everywhere.... ;)

yg60m
08-10-2004, 03:10 PM
:lol: :wink:

RC45
08-10-2004, 03:13 PM
lol, that just proves my point then, if its a good car it will sell everywhere.... ;)

Wrong - if it is sold in a market with "disposable income" and the car has a support network - it will sell.

Lotus fucked themselves out of the US market with bad delaer support and really low quality control.

Once again - the US economy will save another consumer product.. (unless the Chinese suddenly decide to buuy sorts cars instead of Cadillacs.. ;))

bmagni
08-10-2004, 03:36 PM
Hmm.. i hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as the M250 Concept :|

i think it might be based on it

possessed_beaver
08-11-2004, 02:37 AM
Lotus need to have a much better dealer network outside of the UK if they want to grow the way they invision.

The lack of proper dealer support has always hurt Lotus in the rest of the world.

At least they're actually selling some in america unlike GM with their vette in europe ;)

If you are going to offer counter points - please at least be factual. :)

GM sells more Corvettes on the world export market than Lotus makes cars each year :)

I'll try find some for you ;)

But i bet, as a proportion of the total amount of lotus's sold each year, more are sold in america than the proportion of the total amount of vettes that are sold in the uk

I'd go one step further, and say that if it wasn't for wealthy Yanks buying Lotii - they would have gone out of business decades ago.. :P

i would actualy saw "if it wasen't for proton buying lotus" ;)

Chingachgook
08-11-2004, 10:08 AM
I don't like the look...but I think it's not even near to the real car...it seems a photoshopped VX220... But I'd like to see the real one...a car between Elise (the best for me) and the Esprit

HeilSvenska
08-12-2004, 11:21 AM
it seems a photoshopped VX220


because it is. The pic is that of a mid engined car, but the GT, if it will ever be made sounds like a front engined.

but Lotus shouldn't make GTs. What happened to hard core sports cars?

Nik^XeN
08-12-2004, 01:12 PM
That car on the Auto Express front...

My frend work for lotus.. and he said this
"that car is a Lotus 'fun toy' released to the public, the final car will look different"

mindgam3
08-12-2004, 01:50 PM
it seems a photoshopped VX220


because it is. The pic is that of a mid engined car, but the GT, if it will ever be made sounds like a front engined.

but Lotus shouldn't make GTs. What happened to hard core sports cars?

I would consider the esprit a GT.... more so than a hardcore sports car anyway.

SilviaEvo
08-12-2004, 11:43 PM
looks weird

HeilSvenska
08-13-2004, 09:58 AM
I would consider the esprit a GT.... more so than a hardcore sports car anyway.

???how???

no (modern) Lotus can be relaxing to drive or comfortable for cruising!

a mid engined car weighing only 1380kg with 350bhp twin turbo V8 cannot be a GT even if it tried

ViperASR
08-13-2004, 10:38 AM
but its fun on the track, and thats what lotus is good at, making a street legal car go incredably fast