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topgeartom
08-07-2004, 02:21 PM
I just thought it would be a bit of fun to try and decide the worlds dullest car.

This isn't a poll - just post your suggestion, and if possible a picture, to benefit those of us who aren't up on american cars, or americans who aren't up on european models and vice-versa.

So please post:
:arrow: The make and model of car
:arrow: If possible a picture
:arrow: some performance figures (again if possible)
:arrow: and a few choice selections from the equipment list! :P



My choice is the delightful 1989 Nissan Bluebird LS
http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/02/24/images/10/Primera_18.jpg
The 1.6 Bluebird LS pushes out a mighty 84bhp to the front wheels, but is so unbelievably slow, i couldn't actually find any 0-60 figures.
The spec list is truly awesome though:
-sunshine roof
-electrically operated windows on all sides
-radio/cassette combo
-central locking
-some seats
-a carburettor fed 1600cc engine
-a rev counter

RC45
08-07-2004, 03:01 PM
Golf I 1.1l

The original "econobox"

48hp

0-60 just before your final car payment.

Only luxury item self-cancelling turn signals.

Only power accessory - electric starter motor.

Lest people forget - those are the real roots of VW... ;)

topgeartom
08-07-2004, 03:11 PM
0-60 just before your final car payment.

hehe :lol:

BADMIHAI
08-07-2004, 04:34 PM
Chevrolet Cavalier
http://www.2000floridatravel.com/carrentals/cavalier.jpg
, any minivan, Chevrolet Corvette (especially the Z06)<--just joking, any Hyundai,
any Kia.

HeilSvenska
08-08-2004, 01:12 AM
All the current Toyotas on sale, except for Celica (pronounced Silika)

crazidude
08-08-2004, 02:52 AM
Hrm... I think I'd have to say a Camry. Uninspiring lines and interior. My friend loves it though. We got into a conversation about luxury cars and he said Camry is a good luxury car. I told him that it isn't and he argued back that it is because it has a leather interior lol.

tanelvali
08-08-2004, 03:50 AM
Go and try out ZAZ (soviet brand during 1970's) had approx 30 hp.. And ofcource here is Trabant always..

topgeartom
08-08-2004, 05:14 AM
And ofcource here is Trabant always..

Now you see, trabants arent actually dull, they're made out of cardboard for smeg sake - thats funny, it makes the car interesting in a wierd kinda way.

crazidude - your right on the camry, that thing is blander than wallpaper.

heath
08-08-2004, 08:20 AM
The Holden Commodore. Any model.

http://www.autogaleria.sitenet.pl/tapety/img/holden/holden_commodore_ss_2002_01_m.jpg

here's one that looks the same as every single model before it..

its got 4 boring common doors (eh? eh?? c'mon!!)
... I think the flannel shirts (http://oregonstate.edu/dept/music/recordandedit/studio%20photos/bogan.jpg) and trackie dacks (http://www.schooltex.co.nz/Unisex/Grey%20trackie.jpg) come with the car too...as does the application form for centrelink. (http://www.centrelink.gov.au/)

weight = bloody heavy
0-100 = who cares its a commodore
hp = see above

I see roughly 50 to 60 of these things EVERYDAY! They're about as exciting as a sack of soggy weetbix (http://www.weetbix.com.au). Why people buy them I don't know...they depreciate faster than you can say "jezuz that car is shit-house"

I'd rather be beaten around the head with a large stick than ever own ones of these things... I've driven the 2003 V8 SS model and well...it was dissapointing to say the least...

stracing
08-08-2004, 08:46 AM
Hrm... I think I'd have to say a Camry. Uninspiring lines and interior. My friend loves it though. We got into a conversation about luxury cars and he said Camry is a good luxury car. I told him that it isn't and he argued back that it is because it has a leather interior lol.

i think your friend is smarter than you think :P

with the current camry, change the badges to lexus and voila, a luxury car :mrgreen:

just don't tell the enthusiasts :wink:

sergei_dekker85
08-08-2004, 11:28 AM
All the hondas except the S2000

topgeartom
08-08-2004, 01:26 PM
I see roughly 50 to 60 of these things EVERYDAY! They're about as exciting as a sack of soggy weetbix (http://www.weetbix.com.au). Why people buy them I don't know...they depreciate faster than you can say "jezuz that car is shit-house"

You dont like it then? :P

caugb
08-08-2004, 03:00 PM
Trabants are so "out of this world" they are cool!
Ladas are the champions of this contest.
Well, after Lotus guys modified one, maybe they got cooler, too!

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/Images/Lada%20images/1%20Front.jpg

topgeartom
08-08-2004, 03:28 PM
Trabants are so "out of this world" they are cool!
Ladas are the champions of this contest.
Well, after Lotus guys modified one, maybe they got cooler, too!

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/Images/Lada%20images/1%20Front.jpg

Have my eyes gone funny, or does that numberplate say "cum"??? :D :D :D

ferrari550
08-08-2004, 03:58 PM
Chevrolet Cavalier
http://www.2000floridatravel.com/carrentals/cavalier.jpg
, any minivan, Chevrolet Corvette (especially the Z06)<--just joking, any Hyundai,
any Kia.

thank you so much for putting in the cavalier!!
i was just about to, it is so dull and not to mention bad!

BADMIHAI
08-08-2004, 10:47 PM
Have my eyes gone funny, or does that numberplate say "cum"???


It does say it indeed. I was just going to point that out. :fadein:

SilviaEvo
08-08-2004, 11:41 PM
Scions and Honda Elements

bmagni
08-09-2004, 12:24 AM
the gremlin id say

oscargarza88
08-09-2004, 12:26 AM
All the hondas except the S2000
wow i totally agree, they r just sooo cheap! i hate them even the kinda good models like the odyssey, it sux

stracing
08-09-2004, 01:27 AM
All the hondas except the S2000

c'mon the accord euro looks pretty good. if i was after a medium sized family sedan i'd for that one

bmagni
08-09-2004, 01:30 AM
c'mon the accord euro looks pretty good


thats cause its not a honda its an acura... hehehehe

topgeartom
08-09-2004, 08:56 AM
All the hondas except the S2000

You even hate the Type R models?

I know what you mean though. In england nearly all hondas are bought by pensioners or sales reps. DULL

stracing
08-09-2004, 10:00 AM
c'mon the accord euro looks pretty good


thats cause its not a honda its an acura... hehehehe

its japanese design and built so i take it as a honda

sergei_dekker85
08-11-2004, 03:32 AM
All the hondas except the S2000

You even hate the Type R models?

I know what you mean though. In england nearly all hondas are bought by pensioners or sales reps. DULL
Simple...in my country Honda civics are 21st century tree huggers...meaning that when they crash they usually are wrapped around trees....and most hooligans in my country drive Type-Rs...I personally Smoked some of them with my SUV just 2 shut them up....hate em'....keep revving their engines at traffic lights

topgeartom
08-11-2004, 06:17 AM
All the hondas except the S2000

You even hate the Type R models?

I know what you mean though. In england nearly all hondas are bought by pensioners or sales reps. DULL
Simple...in my country Honda civics are 21st century tree huggers...meaning that when they crash they usually are wrapped around trees....and most hooligans in my country drive Type-Rs...I personally Smoked some of them with my SUV just 2 shut them up....hate em'....keep revving their engines at traffic lights

I know the type, over here in England they mostly drive Vauxhall/Opel Corsa's and the sort.

blah
08-11-2004, 06:26 AM
The old Volvo 850s, and the old S-Class. Just simply boring. The old A6 design was boring as hell too.

TransAm
08-11-2004, 02:29 PM
I just thought it would be a bit of fun to try and decide the worlds dullest car.

This isn't a poll - just post your suggestion, and if possible a picture, to benefit those of us who aren't up on american cars, or americans who aren't up on european models and vice-versa.

So please post:
:arrow: The make and model of car
:arrow: If possible a picture
:arrow: some performance figures (again if possible)
:arrow: and a few choice selections from the equipment list! :P




I'm with you Tom, on the Econoboxes. I'd have to go one further than the Bluebird, at least the Nissan can be said to be reliable, being the choice of Mini-cab (taxi) drivers in the UK during the 90's even if it is dull as you rightly state. 84hp from a 1.6l motor? Just check out the specs for my choice... :wink:

To the readers of JW, I proffer the British Leyland Morris Ital...bastard child of BL and Italdesign... :lol:

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9786/X-CL021112.jpg

:arrow: British :cry: Leyland Morris Ital
:arrow: 0-60 - yes, but preferably pushed off the top of a cliff :twisted:
:arrow: Ergonomically designed interior - oh just see the link below, it pains me to write any more about this 'thing'...

http://www.bltin.com/ital.html

topgeartom
08-11-2004, 04:56 PM
I just thought it would be a bit of fun to try and decide the worlds dullest car.

This isn't a poll - just post your suggestion, and if possible a picture, to benefit those of us who aren't up on american cars, or americans who aren't up on european models and vice-versa.

So please post:
:arrow: The make and model of car
:arrow: If possible a picture
:arrow: some performance figures (again if possible)
:arrow: and a few choice selections from the equipment list! :P




I'm with you Tom, on the Econoboxes. I'd have to go one further than the Bluebird, at least the Nissan can be said to be reliable, being the choice of Mini-cab (taxi) drivers in the UK during the 90's even if it is dull as you rightly state. 84hp from a 1.6l motor? Just check out the specs for my choice... :wink:

To the readers of JW, I proffer the British Leyland Morris Ital...bastard child of BL and Italdesign... :lol:

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9786/X-CL021112.jpg

:arrow: British :cry: Leyland Morris Ital
:arrow: 0-60 - yes, but preferably pushed off the top of a cliff :twisted:
:arrow: Ergonomically designed interior - oh just see the link below, it pains me to write any more about this 'thing'...

http://www.bltin.com/ital.html

Nice choice, but you can get to the point where a car is so shockingly crap, that it actually becomes interesting rather than just dull.

dingo
08-12-2004, 02:53 AM
The Holden Commodore. Any model.

here's one that looks the same as every single model before it..

its got 4 boring common doors (eh? eh?? c'mon!!)
... I think the flannel shirts (http://oregonstate.edu/dept/music/recordandedit/studio%20photos/bogan.jpg) and trackie dacks (http://www.schooltex.co.nz/Unisex/Grey%20trackie.jpg) come with the car too...as does the application form for centrelink. (http://www.centrelink.gov.au/)

weight = bloody heavy
0-100 = who cares its a commodore
hp = see above

I see roughly 50 to 60 of these things EVERYDAY! They're about as exciting as a sack of soggy weetbix (http://www.weetbix.com.au). Why people buy them I don't know...they depreciate faster than you can say "jezuz that car is shit-house"

I'd rather be beaten around the head with a large stick than ever own ones of these things... I've driven the 2003 V8 SS model and well...it was dissapointing to say the least...

If thats the dullest car you've ever seen you haven't seen many cars. How about an AU Falcon for dull, that was(is) a piece of crap looking car. All those things you stated about the Commodore apply to pretty much every other 4-door sedan in Australia (or the world), e.g. Magna, Falcon, Camry...... If you really have driven the SS please explain why exactly is was so disappointing. :?
What does a centrelink form have to do with the Commodore, if your implying that most Commodore owners are on the dole then you better do some more research....or just think about those POS old rusty Falcons driving around and think where those 'people'(I won't offend anyone so I'll leave it at people) get their income from.

topgeartom
08-12-2004, 08:15 AM
Trabants are so "out of this world" they are cool!
Ladas are the champions of this contest.
Well, after Lotus guys modified one, maybe they got cooler, too!

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/Images/Lada%20images/1%20Front.jpg

Nooouu! Ladas are exciting:) Old ones are RWD and all you need is a frozen lake to make them go sideways :D And they even had starting crank, that just can't be boring.

Thats my point. I think i'd agree with you, just because a car is really crap that doesnt make itn dull. In fact, the really shit cars are dam intresting - theyre funny almost. Dull cars arent necessarily bad cars, they are just perfectly average at EVERYTHING they do, they are bland. You would notice a really crap car like a lada or a trabant cos they are so woeful, theyre funny, but you wouldnt notice something like a vauxhall corsa or nova, becuase while they might be a reasonable car, they are just dull - no interesting or exciting features whatsoever.

TransAm
08-12-2004, 01:04 PM
@TGTom

In which case it must be hats off to the Camry...

topgeartom
08-12-2004, 01:42 PM
Absolutely

SilviaEvo
08-13-2004, 12:34 AM
In which case it must be hats off to the Camry...

they arnt that boring you can add superchargers :twisted:

thats cause its not a honda its an acura... hehehehe

Honda OWNS Acura not Acura owns Honda so the Euro R is a Honda as with other Acura Models they are Honda built and designed. but little Civics can get boring as they are the most common rice around but some Honda's really haul ass

McP
08-13-2004, 04:00 AM
It seems I’m the owner of the dullest car ever?!!:
http://home.planet.nl/~nottheone/mydullcar.jpg
My excuse is that I’m tall (1.95 meters = 6 foot 4) and there are very few cars that I fit in comfortably. When I bought it (2000) these cars were on my shortlist: Volvo S80 (too expensive with options included), VW Passat 2.8 (very slow automatic trans., takes about 1 sec to change gear: yes I’m lazy going for an auto.), Camry V6 (….).
I actually like the fact that nobody notices it, have improved the car with 225/45-17inch F1-GSD3, green stuff brake pads, working on lowering /other suspension.
Would like a supercharger, however I would be the first to do that in my country, (maybe even Europe).
Since this year they don’t even sell Camry’s in Europe, there all going to the USA. So now Camry’s are exclusive, just kidding, I’m not that crazy :roll: …..
Thinking of upgrading to a new Subaru Legacy Wagon 3.0R (yes I know dull again :? ).

HeilSvenska
08-13-2004, 09:44 AM
Thinking of upgrading to a new Subaru Legacy Wagon 3.0R


Actually, the new Subie is quite cool. I mean look at the "eagle eye" headlamps. as long as it's not the old one

Saabrules
08-13-2004, 12:22 PM
old school
ford temo they were dated before they came out

RC45
08-13-2004, 12:34 PM
Nope - Saab is hands down the dullest car ever made. :)

Igorionia
08-13-2004, 01:08 PM
Nooouu! Ladas are exciting:) Old ones are RWD and all you need is a frozen lake to make them go sideways :D And they even had starting crank, that just can't be boring.

http://www.celtia.hu/ladaklub/egyeb/video/lbk_emcsi1.wmv (7.5 Mb)

This Video MUST download EVERYONE :!: :!: :!: :!:
It's for those who dislikes Ladas or smth :D :D
Have Fun Guys. And don't even try to say that this car isn't Fun to drive
Ofcource in this video LADA isn't stock and driver is VERY skillfull ! But anyway... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

antonioledesma
08-13-2004, 01:12 PM
Nope - Saab is hands down the dullest car ever made. :)

I kinda liked saab, you now that case if you had your top 30 car garage, and now you could buy one.
but now thanks to edwardbauer or saabrules, I hate them

caugb
08-15-2004, 10:04 PM
I watched the video about the Lada and changed my mind.
That guy is really having serious fun with a Lada.

Igorionia
08-16-2004, 01:40 AM
You see ;) LADA isn't so bad! :lol: :lol:

topgeartom
08-16-2004, 07:30 AM
The guy in the Lada must really like driving out of his side window!

caugb
08-16-2004, 01:02 PM
As a matter of fact, I forgot that this ugly Lada has RWD.
No RWD car can be classified as dull. It is correct in conception!

heath
08-17-2004, 04:41 AM
The Holden Commodore. Any model.

here's one that looks the same as every single model before it..

its got 4 boring common doors (eh? eh?? c'mon!!)
... I think the flannel shirts (http://oregonstate.edu/dept/music/recordandedit/studio%20photos/bogan.jpg) and trackie dacks (http://www.schooltex.co.nz/Unisex/Grey%20trackie.jpg) come with the car too...as does the application form for centrelink. (http://www.centrelink.gov.au/)

weight = bloody heavy
0-100 = who cares its a commodore
hp = see above

I see roughly 50 to 60 of these things EVERYDAY! They're about as exciting as a sack of soggy weetbix (http://www.weetbix.com.au). Why people buy them I don't know...they depreciate faster than you can say "jezuz that car is shit-house"

I'd rather be beaten around the head with a large stick than ever own ones of these things... I've driven the 2003 V8 SS model and well...it was dissapointing to say the least...

If thats the dullest car you've ever seen you haven't seen many cars. How about an AU Falcon for dull, that was(is) a piece of crap looking car. All those things you stated about the Commodore apply to pretty much every other 4-door sedan in Australia (or the world), e.g. Magna, Falcon, Camry...... If you really have driven the SS please explain why exactly is was so disappointing. :?
What does a centrelink form have to do with the Commodore, if your implying that most Commodore owners are on the dole then you better do some more research....or just think about those POS old rusty Falcons driving around and think where those 'people'(I won't offend anyone so I'll leave it at people) get their income from.

I'm not a ford/holden/mistu/toyota bloke, I don't care about which company makes the best or worst car.
This topic is about the dullest car, my opinion is that the holden is the dullest car. I did a test for 2 days last week, I counted every single commodore I saw. I kid you not, on the first day in a 10min period I saw exactly 118 commodores...on the second day I saw on the same stretch of road 78... Now tell me that does not become dull after a few times....I find them dull because I'm jaded by them... and as for the SS I drove, the engine sound was magic, but the heavy body and the dissapointing auto gearbox that didn't know if it was coming or going ruined it for me....and the steering that had little to no actual connection with the wheels... I don't find falcons dull because I don't see that many of them, sure there are HEAPS, but there are just as many corollas or excels...

For me, the holden is the most common and dull car.

dingo
08-17-2004, 04:55 AM
Well the fact that the Holden is the most popular (sales wise, and therefore very common on the roads) car tells me it must be doing something right if so many people buy it. :wink: I don't really like the normal Commodore (Executive) all that much either but I still wouldn't call it dull, while the sports models (and HSV's) are beautiful cars that perform well.

heath
08-18-2004, 08:31 AM
Well the fact that the Holden is the most popular (sales wise, and therefore very common on the roads) car tells me it must be doing something right if so many people buy it. :wink: I don't really like the normal Commodore (Executive) all that much either but I still wouldn't call it dull, while the sports models (and HSV's) are beautiful cars that perform well.

beautiful is a rather descriptive word for a rather plain car...

but each to their own, if we didn't have variety in life we'd all die of boredom. as for performance....well...whatever you reckon...

commodore is a commodore is a commodore, you can't fool me by putting some rims on it and slapping a few badges on the arse end, its still a commodore. SS, HSV, Clubsport, Senator, blah blah blah, whatever...its always gonna share the one badge, commodore which equals boring. The only one I'd ever consider being beautiful in my opinion is the Monaro. But still its a commodore....but somehow a little more refined...anyway, judging by your wife beater VN/VP in your sig there, I don't think you're about to agree with me in a hurry so lets do the old "let by gones be by gones"

Gnome
08-19-2004, 03:05 PM
A Saab is way too fun to drive to be boring. Find a twisty road, and try one!

I have to go for the Koreans Hyundai and Kia.

I think the worst current car is The Kia Carnival.
http://www.kia.no/images/carnival_silver_black.jpg
It has horrible performance, even for an asian van, and it is no fun to drive. Another problem is that it only scored two stars (of five possible) in the Euro NCAP crash test. It's less safe than any small car on the market, I think.

HeilSvenska
08-19-2004, 05:14 PM
Ech..... That hood scoop...

topgeartom
08-19-2004, 06:03 PM
Ech..... That hood scoop...

no no no...thats sporty..honest. I guess the koreans just dont get it.

noliebro
08-21-2004, 02:43 PM
The Toyota Prius
"driving this car is like Metamusel, you'll be glad when it's over"- Car and Driver :lol:

topgeartom
08-21-2004, 02:51 PM
no no no no. The prius isnt dull!!! It has one of the most interesting/advanced power units in any car today. It may be slow and crap to drive but that aint the point. The car is interesting.

sergei_dekker85
08-21-2004, 10:22 PM
A Saab is way too fun to drive to be boring. Find a twisty road, and try one!

I have to go for the Koreans Hyundai and Kia.

I think the worst current car is The Kia Carnival.
http://www.kia.no/images/carnival_silver_black.jpg
It has horrible performance, even for an asian van, and it is no fun to drive. Another problem is that it only scored two stars (of five possible) in the Euro NCAP crash test. It's less safe than any small car on the market, I think.

as a matter of fact IT IS....POOR fuel economy,low pwer (Even for a 2.7L V6 engine) and reliability....all the factors of it making it a bad car.....the same goes for all korean cars (no offense)

BADMIHAI
08-22-2004, 01:51 AM
the same goes for all korean cars (no offense)


The truth shouldn't offend anyone. :|

cho_888
08-22-2004, 02:49 AM
i am going to second the holden commodore its jsut so common!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no matter what model you get you could be asured that every time you take it out you would pull up next to one exactly the same. wouldnt that be a little depressing?

sikx5
08-22-2004, 04:03 AM
yeah commodore/falcon, and porsches.....how would you feel to own a commodore, damn sad i reckon.

cho_888
08-22-2004, 04:31 AM
falcon not soo bad, and i will take a quote form the paper " its not that all commodore drivers are bogans, but all bogans drive commodores"

dingo
08-24-2004, 02:42 AM
beautiful is a rather descriptive word for a rather plain car...

but each to their own, if we didn't have variety in life we'd all die of boredom. as for performance....well...whatever you reckon...

commodore is a commodore is a commodore, you can't fool me by putting some rims on it and slapping a few badges on the arse end, its still a commodore. SS, HSV, Clubsport, Senator, blah blah blah, whatever...its always gonna share the one badge, commodore which equals boring. The only one I'd ever consider being beautiful in my opinion is the Monaro. But still its a commodore....but somehow a little more refined...anyway, judging by your wife beater VN/VP in your sig there, I don't think you're about to agree with me in a hurry so lets do the old "let by gones be by gones"

Well what exactly do you call an AMG or Brabus car then? They are also just ordinary cars with badges, wheels and performance upgrades aren't they? So a Merc is a Merc is a Merc, blah, blah blah. :wink:
A wife beater VN, WTF is that suppose to mean? What is it that you drive?
My argument is that a Commodore is the average family car in Australia (along with Falcons) and thats what they should be regarded as, nothing more....unless of course you talk about HSV's which are for the more performance-oriented people...and yes they do have some performance...unless of course you call a 285kW/300kW 5.7 V8 something different.


i am going to second the holden commodore its jsut so common!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no matter what model you get you could be asured that every time you take it out you would pull up next to one exactly the same. wouldnt that be a little depressing?

That would also happen in a Falcon...nearly as common but not as many because people (the wise ones) prefer Commodores.
Your comment doesn't apply to me since only 483 models were made of my car, and I've only seen 2 other ones since I've had it...so no it doesn't apply to EVERY model as you stated. :wink:

As for the bogan comment, I agree somewhat but those losers/waste of space people drive other cars too...usually anything they can afford from their centrelink payments (that inlcudes Falcons).....but I'm a uni educated guy so I'm glad you included that qoute otherwise I would have had to rant on even more.

dingo
08-24-2004, 02:57 AM
yeah commodore/falcon, and porsches.....how would you feel to own a commodore, damn sad i reckon.

A Porsche is dull? I don't need to say anything to that.
I drive a Commodore and I'm not 'damn sad', very happy actually.
Have a look at the thread about the new VZ Commodore and read the responses of international members, they don't seem like they would be sad to drive a Commodore.
What do you drive that makes you so happy?