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nejcdolinsek
08-04-2004, 03:49 PM
When you think of the word "genius", which 1 person pops to mind?

For me, Albert Einstein is synonymous with genius

mindgam3
08-04-2004, 03:56 PM
Agreed albert einstein amongst others....

If i was going to pick one person currently alive to be called a genius it would have be Stephen Hawking. I just finished reading his book "The universe in a nutshell" and am currently reading "A Breif history of time" - great books, id recommend them to anyone.

Toronto
08-04-2004, 04:19 PM
speaking of Stephen Hawking i read a couple of weeks ago that one of his theroies was proven wrong... the one about how objects that enter a black hole are gone forever....

mindgam3
08-04-2004, 04:34 PM
I'd like to read that article if possible?? I don't think they would've proved that wrong because it is generally agreed amongst the scientific wolrd that time stops for any object entering a black hole once it passes the black holes event horizon because the strength of gravity is so great.

There's more complicated parts to his theories which i think would be the more likely to be disputed.

X-ale
08-04-2004, 04:59 PM
My gf first, then me. :fadein: Da Vinci, Escher, Michealangelo, Gaudy, Dali, Beethoven and Mozart. :D Well there's many, many more. :)

BADMIHAI
08-04-2004, 05:50 PM
speaking of Stephen Hawking i read a couple of weeks ago that one of his theroies was proven wrong... the one about how objects that enter a black hole are gone forever....

He said it was wrong. Nobody proved it.

Albert Einstein wasn't that great. He stole most of the ideas from his wife, and from the patent office he used to work at. When I think of genius I think of myself. :wink:

Vansquish
08-04-2004, 06:48 PM
Richard Feynman pops into my head first and foremost

Paco
08-04-2004, 07:04 PM
I think Leonardo Da Vinci was the greatest genius.
I've read a lot on this guy and he was waaaaaaay ahead of his time. The Vatican was constantly on his ass (not only because he was homosexual) since he possessed secret knowledge that was dangerous to the power structure of the church in those days. Luckily, he managed to keep his head off the chopping-block because he did a lot of art for them and was also protected by powerful lords like the De Medici's.

I can talk for hours about this guy! You should read the Turin Shroud by Picknett & Prince. It'll blow your mind.


Guys like Charles Hapgood, Graham Hancock, Colin Wilson and Rand Flem-auth I wouldn't directly call geniuses, but they are real free thinkers. I love their work.

mindgam3
08-04-2004, 08:56 PM
To be honest, i can't call engineers, musicians, artists etc genius'. To me the people at the forefront of science should be classed as genius', it's the way they come up with these theories from almost nothing its just beyond belief. Plus they are the ones that change history and effect our every day lives even tho we don't know it half the time.

My list of genius (some less so than others):
Aristotle
Nicholas Copernicus
Charles Darwin
Albert Einstein
Richard Feynmann (as someone has already said)
Galilei Galileo
Issac Newton
Stephen Hawking
Werner Heisenberg
Edwin Hubble
Johannes Kepler
Wolfgang Pauli

Most of which have all been awarded nobel prizes

The thing about einstein and his wife - its an old wifes tale, lol pardon the pun

BADMIHAI
08-04-2004, 09:48 PM
The thing about einstein and his wife - its an old wifes tale, lol pardon the pun



Not true. It has been proven.

Vansquish
08-04-2004, 10:02 PM
The thing about einstein and his wife - its an old wifes tale, lol pardon the pun



Not true. It has been proven.

I'd like to see the proof of that. Einstein had a keenly intellectual mind and wasn't a bad violinist to boot. He couldn't have stolen THAT from his wife.

Gimp
08-05-2004, 12:35 AM
The dude that invented chex mix and lcuky charms. O and cheese cake!

RC45
08-05-2004, 12:37 AM
I like to think of the great generals that bombed. butchered and otherwise altered history in fantastical ways as the great genii of the past...

In modern times, Bill Gates jumps to fore in a big way.

I mean come one... without "saving humanity" or even producing a decent product, this bloke has gone on to accumulate and then disperse the greatest fortune any individual has in history.

Most of the intellectuals listed were/are pompous blowhards that have really done no more than further their own agendas.. :)


:D

Vansquish
08-05-2004, 02:27 AM
Most of the intellectuals listed were/are pompous blowhards that have really done no more than further their own agendas..


I beg to differ, at least Feynman was able to figure out what happened in the Challenger catastrophe when nobody else could. His work in physics was revolutionary as well, and he played a rather important role in the shaping of the atomic bomb while he was working at Los Alamos on the Manhattan Project.

Toronto
08-05-2004, 02:59 AM
In modern times, Bill Gates jumps to fore in a big way.


Bill Gates stole everything from mac, and that computer club in cali.. it would be nothing if it wasn't for those other guys

RC45
08-05-2004, 03:56 AM
In modern times, Bill Gates jumps to fore in a big way.


Bill Gates stole everything from mac, and that computer club in cali.. it would be nothing if it wasn't for those other guys

Hence the genius :)

You snooze.. you lose... ;)

Work smarter - not harder....

:twisted:

mindgam3
08-05-2004, 07:06 AM
Most of the intellectuals listed were/are pompous blowhards that have really done no more than further their own agendas.. :)
:D

I couldn't disagree more....

If these "pompous blowhards" hadn't been about we wouldn't have had electricity in the way we do today, we wouldnt have microwaves, computers, phones, mobile phones, CD's, DVD's, TV's and the standard of cars we have today, we wouldnt be exploring space, we wouldnt know how to build buildings and structures the way we do, we wouldnt't be able to work out stuff with projectiles and collisions, we wouldnt have nuclear power stations.... And we wouldnt be working to the big questions - Why are we here, how do we exists and where will the future lead us.

I could go on forever but i don't think thats neccessary ;)

RC45
08-05-2004, 12:44 PM
Why are we here, how do we exists?

We are here because the great generals and military men of the past who killed, maimed, butchered and bloodied their way into a new future in the name of what ever empire they represented.

Hell, Saddam Hussein is surely one of the genii of the last century - along with Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Idi Amin Dada must rank up there - I am imagining that Osama Bin Laden must be on route to geniusness at the moment as well...

mindgam3
08-05-2004, 12:53 PM
Why are we here, how do we exists?

We are here because the great generals and military men of the past who killed, maimed, butchered and bloodied their way into a new future in the name of what ever empire they represented.

Hell, Saddam Hussein is surely one of the genii of the last century - along with Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Idi Amin Dada must rank up there - I am imagining that Osama Bin Laden must be on route to geniusness at the moment as well...

lol, if you say so.....;)

You can't tell me they created the universe and man in the first place though

RC45
08-05-2004, 01:32 PM
Why are we here, how do we exists?

We are here because the great generals and military men of the past who killed, maimed, butchered and bloodied their way into a new future in the name of what ever empire they represented.

Hell, Saddam Hussein is surely one of the genii of the last century - along with Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Idi Amin Dada must rank up there - I am imagining that Osama Bin Laden must be on route to geniusness at the moment as well...

lol, if you say so.....;)

You can't tell me they created the universe and man in the first place though

Are you trying to say that human genius created the universeand man?

If so you have yourself fallen into the trap of genius-worship... ;)

bradleykylenelson
08-05-2004, 09:31 PM
i would have to say that it would be "your mom"

Vansquish
08-06-2004, 02:23 AM
Such a clever retort, got any more from whence that came? I mean, we could go on to the "your mom's so fat" jokes, but I don't see how that would further the discussion.

bradleykylenelson
08-07-2004, 06:05 AM
well it was the best i could do at the time

DTM8
08-07-2004, 09:50 AM
If I were to pick one genius, it would have to be Isaac Newton.

The man virtually altered the way the human mind works, meaning that Newton is the most important contributor to the creation of modern science. Keep in mind that his accomplishments were made in the 17th, early 18th century. :shock:

BADMIHAI
08-07-2004, 03:48 PM
i would have to say that it would be "your mom"


You're right. My mom's IQ is 185. :P