a HELL of a car - cobra 427 w. a strong v8 onb. a must see!

[eva-adam]

especially V8 fans will enjoy this hell of a car!!!

great engine sound perfomance also!

watch and enjoy

http://www.gdcars.com/video/GD427.mpg

[mit5005]

Wow, that car is incredible! :D I have always loved the 427 Cobra. The sound is very nice too. Almost reminds me of the 428 in the S7. Thanks a lot.

[FordGTGuy]

i love big blocks :)

[T-Bird]

It's nice yes BUT it isn't a real Cobra which kind of sucks.
and the speedo seamed to have been broken aswell.

[RC45]

and the speedo seamed to have been broken aswell.

Or disconnected so they couldn't be prosecuted after the fact for the "display of speed " on public roads.. ;)

[FordGTGuy]

do you mean thats an British AC and not a Shelby?

You know I saw a shelby cobra at food-lion once I fi had a cmaera with me their would be another thread full of pictures around here. It was silver with 2 blue racing stripes(hot as hell!).

I may get a kit car.

[T-Bird]

Yes that is not a Shelby, now what company it is from that I can't say because there are quite a few.

80% of the Cobras you see on the road are kit cars. most of the originals if still existent are garaged sadly but every once in a while you will find a real one like in my case with my recent post where most were Shelby's and half were originals from the 60's

[blah]

thats not an original also because its a 6 speed, didn the originals come with a 4 speed? Very nice car though, there is a Factory 5 shelby replica back over here by my house, ill drive by it and get some pics. There is also a Z8 over here to, black. I think ive fallen in love with roadsters ever since i started driving the z3.,

[FordGTGuy]

how much would an original 60's Cobra be worth? 100,000$$ like a mint condition 1964 1/2 Mustang fastback is worth?

[T-Bird]

no an original mint condition all original untouched Cobra 289 can get about $400,000 and a 427 could reach upto $600,000, one actually went for $1million but that was like chassis #1 or something. There were waay more 64.5 Mustangs made than all of the original Cobra's and the number of original Cobra's isn't very high anymore but they are out there. replicars from like Superformance or factory five racing can go for fully built $50k but much cheaper if you do it yourself but still up there for a car that you couldn't drive everyday, since the top aren't exactly the best and in the northern part of the country the snow would be a death sentence. You can buy a fully authorized and registered Shelby new for about $60k to over $100k. And good luck getting your hands on a Daytona those are worth easy over $1million since very few exist.

Also if your in Europe I'm sure that AC still produces their versions of the car they just aren't Shelby versions.

[FordGTGuy]

I think I'll keep to a Caterham If I ever wanted to amke a kit car

[T-Bird]

well a Superformance finished goes for $40k
and a version of the Lotus 7 (like the Caterham and Donkervoort that is US built) called the S1 for $23k

Both have no engine or Transmission though like most kit cars so you have alot of freedom on that part.

And here are the Factory five cars minus the construction and drivetrain
http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/ffrkits.html

[mit5005]

Originals are extremely rare. My dad knows a machinest who has one, but the best part is that it has one of few 427 cammer (SOHC) motors that they also used for racing. I haven't seen it yet but when I get to see this guys collection, I'll definitely get pics. I heard he also has an original GT40.

[FordGTGuy]

two big blocks? holy shit I need one now. ): the ford GT-40 uses a 427 cammer to.

[mit5005]

two big blocks? holy shit I need one now. ): the ford GT-40 uses a 427 cammer to.

Are you sure about that? Because I think they were just pushrod 427's, not cammer ones. But I am not completely sure.

[FordGTGuy]

they used cammers I read about it. They were about to go for a stronger big block but didn't.

This engine was dropped in after Shelby took control of the GT-40 project under Henry Ford so yes depending on which car came first theirs a good poosibility they both had the same engine.

[mit5005]

Oh yea, u are right. Some GT40's came with the cammer too. I never knew that. It is amazing how that engine can put out 650 bhp at 7,500 rpm. That is still awesome even by today's standards.

[T-Bird]

it depends on if it's a GT40 or a GT40 MKII Lemans only the Lemans ones had the Cammer but alot of people were dropping them into their street cars recreating the Lemans cars painting with the Gulf colors and what not.

And you mean Henry Ford II right FordGTGuy :wink:

[FordGTGuy]

yep. thanks I knew that but your right I should have put the II on his name. what type of cars could your drop an engine this massive in?

I hope the new Xbox game Forza has a 427 cammer I would love to drp one of those in a new ford gt or a Lambo. :)

this is the game. you can custimiza like hell, performance enhancemnet realism is amazing and engine swapping with 200+ cars including lambo, Ford GT, Ferrari, Porsche, tons of American and Import brands.

and xbox live

heres a link to the game:

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/forza/default.htm

[FordGTGuy]

engines get around huh?

[T-Bird]

well you can shoe horn anything into anything if you have the time, money, patience, resources...

[mit5005]

yep. thanks I knew that but your right I should have put the II on his name. what type of cars could your drop an engine this massive in?

I hope the new Xbox game Forza has a 427 cammer I would love to drp one of those in a new ford gt or a Lambo. :)

this is the game. you can custimiza like hell, performance enhancemnet realism is amazing and engine swapping with 200+ cars including lambo, Ford GT, Ferrari, Porsche, tons of American and Import brands.

and xbox live

heres a link to the game:

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/forza/default.htm

Cammer in a Lambo? I know it is a game, but have you seen a shrink lately? :lol:

[astonmartinandy]

That machine makes an incredible noise :twisted: . I love cars like the Cobra that just look and sound as though they want to rip you limb from limb when you accelerate

[blah]

I thought they used the 427 Jet Cobra, or is perhaps cammer another name for that engine? Tell me about it T, ford has that 5.0 Cammer kit out now for the focus.

[mit5005]

I think you are thinking about the 427 side oiler, which was the engine used for many of Cobras. The Cobra Jet came in the form of a 428 and 429 which came in Mustangs and other Fords. The cammer on the other hand, is a little known, race bred engine that Ford created so compete with the Hemi and Chevy's 427. This engine actually has hemisperical heads just like a hemi. The only reason some were put in street Cobras was to comply with racing rules. But of course Nascar banned the engine from use in their races.

[FordGTGuy]

must have been to strong huh?

Well I know that the Ford GT-40 MK-II used a cammer 427 that why I like this one the most.

[T-Bird]

well Mit sort of tackeled that whole thing about the Cobra Jet but they did use them in the Cobras aswell and yes they crammed Cammers into some street cars for homologation reasons but that didn't work too well. there were a few different options for engines in the Cobra obviously the 289 and 427 but there were variants of each engine, that was the whole premise behind Shelby was to make the car for the customer except in the Mustang form which was slowly getting held back by Ford with budgets and whatnot. But since the Cobra was Shelby's car he did what he wanted with it and bought the engines from Ford for a few years and during that time you could essentially get any derivative of their engines in your Cobra and then later in the production run the engines were given to Shelby which limited the choices. Now-a-days Shelby makes their own Blocks so they can use whatever they want even Supercharged 427's with GT40 heads.

As for the new 5.0 Cammer motors I'm not too familiar with them but from what I understand it's just an updated 5.0 capable of insane numbers from standard trim to SC to TT I've seen them all and they are all impressive but I haven't read too much as to the technical aspects of the engine but I must say I wouldn't mind dropping one into My car.

[blah]

Its really just a modded out 4.6 but hell its very fucking impressive, and supposedly insanely powerful. the FrakenFocus motor trend had made almost 500Horses. That was with no Forced Induction.

[mit5005]

And remember, it is a modded Mustang Cobra engine, not the regular GT engine. The difference of course is the DOHC (hence the name "cammer" i'm guessing).

[T-Bird]

OK this is what Ford says about the "Cammer"

The 5.0L DOHC 4-valve ''Cammer'' engine is an upgrade variant of the 4.6L DOHC 4-valve Mustang Cobra engine, with numerous changes for improved power and durability. This engine is completely electronically managed. As part of the ''Cammer'' crate engine program, a ''stand-alone'' harness and engine management computer will be used for many applications.
With proper headers and low restriction air intake and vehicle exhaust systems, the engine will exceed 400 Bhp and have a very broad torque curve, peaking at over 365 ft./lbs.

LOOK AT WHAT YOU GET:
# Variable geometry long/short runner, magnesium intake manifold assembly
# All new Ford Racing 356 alloy aluminum block, specifically designed for this 5.0L engine program
# Ford Racing high flow cylinder heads
# Ford Racing 12mm lift camshafts with unique valves, springs and rocker arms
# High strength racing connecting rods
# Forged pistons with11:1 compression ratio
# Complete with power steering pump, alternator and air conditioning compressor

This assembly is basically a complete package of all the high performance modular DOHC 4-valve components being offered in the Ford Racing Performance Parts Catalog. These parts are currently in use as the core for a number of widely varying race engine applications. Modular 4.6L and 5.0L DOHC 4-valve engines have been successfully used in drag racing, circle track and road racing. Further component development takes place on a continuous basis at Ford Racing, and will result in ever expanding parts availability for this engine family. For enthusiasts of an earlier era, future versions of the ''Cammer'' and being developed with carburetor and distributor systems.

And the engine is not yet available to the public but they say by the end of the year.

[hemi_fan]

mmmm, big block *drules*

[FordGTGuy]

just as hemispherical as a hemi to.

[blah]

I bet in a few more years that cammer will be pushing 475 horses and inside a cobra.

[FordGTGuy]

now that would be one fast Cobra but please don't take any wieght off the wieght it is at right now is just right.

[T-Bird]

I bet in a few more years that cammer will be pushing 475 horses and inside a cobra.

well with that engine and supercharged they have shown numbers of about 500 hp with just a blower nothing else so it's possible.

[blah]

We dont need no stinken blower i want to see ford work on N/A engines, that way when the Chevy Turds get shat on they cant say, Well if i had a supercharger. SHUT UP BITCH you bought the wrong car. But i also dont think its a good idea for the cobra to go after the vette.

[DTM8]

Its strange that this thread was made, because I was just in my neighbors cobra yesterday for the first time. It's a four speed with a dark interior with circular side mirrors. The mirror in the middle was close to the dashboard.

Unfortunately, we have to drive 80+ miles to find those kind of roads in the video, so we had to take the 25mph police infested roads. At times, we went around 100mph, and I must say, the machine is amazing.

I also found it strange that the meter only had a 600-800RPM limit.

[tigerx]

you mean 6000-8000rpm limit???

[Tomerville]

That machine makes an incredible noise . I love cars like the Cobra that just look and sound as though they want to rip you limb from limb when you accelerate

There was one at a toll plaza in NJ when we were passing through, and it just drowns out EVERYTHING in the area.

[T-Bird]

I also found it strange that the meter only had a 600-800RPM limit.

yeah that's a x10 tach instead of a x100 or x1000 tach depending on the manufacturer that's nothing new. they say in the center most of the time what style it is.

[DTM8]

you mean 6000-8000rpm limit???

nope, I definitely seen a 600-800 RPM limit. I guess it was just a strange gauge.

[T-Bird]

/\/\ like I said a x10 tach instead of a x1000 or x100 tach rare but available

[DTM8]

/\/\ like I said a x10 tach instead of a x1000 or x100 tach rare but available

T-Bird, we wrote our posts at the same time, so I couldnt read your other one.

Anyway, that x10 tach makes sense since that low RPM reading would seem erroneous.

[mclaren_Gt]

wow very very nice