Info about this car?

[budagboy2]

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LOTDETAIL.ASP?sid=&intObjectID=4331959

We are interested in bidding on this car at the christies auction in monterey. The car is a dark blue with red interior. Does anyone know why the car is called gtb 6C ALLOY BERLINETTA, compared to just a gtb 4. Is this specific model more sought after? Need some info in you have any. Thanks

[FireBball972]

that car is beautiful. if you're considering buying it, go ahead with it. it's a true classic

[Xploded]

wow that car looks very nice, maybe another member can give you better info on it. Good luck with the bidding hope you get it he he :D :D :D

[Stikz]

damn, sweet car. Nice addition to the f50. What other cars do you have budagboy2?

[sameerrao]

6c stands for 6 carburettors

The 275 GTB 6c was a stopgap model between 275 GTB and 275 GTB/4.

Read the following for more info: Also go to http://www.carsfromitaly.com/ferrari --> then click on 275


Ferrari 275's
The 275 followed on from the 250, with a few major differences. It was built from 1964 until 1968 in various versions as detailed below.

Apart from the specially built 'P' race cars all the cars used the same basic layout with a longitudinal V12 at the front driving the rear wheels through the rear mounted combined transmission and differential. The suspension was independent with double wishbones and coil springs all round, joined by four disc brakes to stop the car.

275 GTB

The replacement for the greatly successful 250 GT, the 275 GTB was released at Paris in 1964. Featuring numerous design cues from its predecessors, mechanically it was a significant step forward. The body design was (as always!) by Pininfarina and borrowed heavily from the classic 250GTO as well as other members of the 250 family.

The biggest changes were the independent rear suspension (for the first time on a Ferrari road car) using double wishbones and the rear transaxle housing the complete transmission (5-speed gearbox) and final drive. These two changes made the chassis considerable more capable, and the overall effect was aided by the new 3286cc (77x58.8mm) V12 which produced 280bhp with the help of three twin carburettors.

The clutch remained attached to the rear of the engine from which there extended a solid propshaft. Later this was replaced by a more robust torque tube. Braking was by discs all round. The wheelbase was 2400mm and the car weighed 1100kg when empty.

In 1965 the design was slightly modified, the most noticeable difference being the extension of the nose section. For this reason the later cars being known as the 'long-nose' variants. The modifications were aimed at reducing front-end lift at high speed and included a revised grille and bumpers mounted higher up. Less visible differences included a larger boot, revised fuel tanks and a slightly modified prop-shaft.

With development of the GTB/4 underway a second series of 275GTB's was built during the summer of 1966. These cars were the same as the series I except for the use of a dry sump system and the installation of six Weber 40DCN carburettors, both features of the GTB/4.

Production continued until it was replaced by the 275GTB/4 in 1966. Production figures were about 240 of the original car, 205 'long-nose' versions and 12 series II cars.

275 GTS

Alongside the 275GTB at the Paris Motorshow of 1964, Ferrari unveiled the 275GTS Spider. Mechanically identical to the coupe car it featued a completely different body, again by Pininfarina. Designed to replace the 250 California it had a much less sporting image than its coupe brother, being more of a classic roofless GT car.

Around 200 examples were built in the two years folowing its launch.

275 GTB/4

The Paris Motorshow in 1966 saw the arrival of the new 275GTB/4, the designation referring to the most significant technical change, namely the adoption of twin camshafts per cylinder bank (ie 4 in total). The capacity remained the same whilst the power went up to 300bhp @ 8,000rpm. As mentioned above, the three carburettors of the earlier cars were replaced by a bank of six Weber 40DCN units. It was the first quad-cam road-going Ferrari built and was easily recogniseable by the bulge in the bonnet compared to the earlier sohc cars. The new head did, however, provide some reliability issues, and frequent servicing by a qualified mechanic was most necessary.

Due to the lack of a 275GTB Spider (the 275 GTS had a completely different design), Chinetti, the boss of NART, requested a handful of spider versions to be built, a job carried out by Scagliett. Some were made by cutting the roof off the coupé, whilst some were built as spiders. A total of ten chassis were so completed, the final result being known as the '275 GTB Spider Nart'.

Around 320 examples of the 275GTB/4 were built before production ceased in early 1968.

275 P & P2

Pure racecars designed to beat Ford in the World Championship these were mid-engined open-topped cars. Apart from the 3.3-litre unit in the 275P there were also 4 and 4.4-litre versions.

275 GTB/C

In 1965 three examples of the new 275GTB were produced for motorsport, designed for endurance races. A significantly lightened aluminium body, six carburettors and dry-sump lunbrification improved the performance, aided by a power output of 320bhp. Various other competition modifications such as perspex windows and air vents for the brakes, were also applied.



I picked up the expected car prices from the Ferrari registry off Ferrarichat.com

Year Car Price (USD)
67-68 275 GTB/4 NART Spyder 1,750,000-2,200,000
66-68 275 GTB/4 275,000-375,000
66 275 GTB/C 12 900,000-1,150,000
65-66 275 GTS 130,000-175,000
65 275 P2 3,775,000-4,750,000
64-66 275 GTB Long Nose 200,000-250,000
64-66 275 GTB Short Nose 175,000-225,000Â*

The price range takes into account the proven history, restoration status, etc.

I would highly recommend you get onto www.ferrarichat.com and ask the forum guys there. They are very helpful...

Best of luck

[twboy1999]

classic ferrari are just so georgeous

why not get a Ferrari 250GTO
lol... that is DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[666fast]

http://www.qv500.com/ferrari275p2.htm

Basically, what you have there is the rarest of the 275 Long Noses. According to the auction page, it is a torque tube long nose. That means it was built on the Tipo 635/66 chassis. With a short production run, only 205 torque tube long noses were ever built. The car in the auction has all the options as well, 6 carb, alloy body, wire wheels roll bar and filler cap. All that narrows it down to only 2 cars ever built with all those options. This one, is the only one on it's original engine.
That would be the rarest 275 Long Nose money can buy it seems.

According to qv500, it worth roughly $330,000. So their estimate of $550,000 or so sale price is probably pretty damn accurate. Afterall, qv500 doesn't take everything into account. It's just a rough amount.

Your father just bought an F50, now he's ready to drop another $500k on a car? Damn! Lucky you, afterall, you get to ride around in them.
Mind me asking what your father does for a living?

If you do buy the car, you know we need pics of it right? :wink:
Not for proof, but because it's a beautiful car that deserves to be photographed.

[budagboy2]

Ok i think i got this right, the model is a 275 gtb long nose. But out of all of the 205 built this is considered the best one b/c it has every option(6 carbs, wire wheels, roll bar...ect) and its an alloy? Please correct me if im wrong, thanks for your help guys.

[sameerrao]

It may be rarer but it is not going to be faster than the 275 GTB/4 which has 20 bhp more.

Ok i think i got this right, the model is a 275 gtb long nose. But out of all of the 205 built this is considered the best one b/c it has every option(6 carbs, wire wheels, roll bar...ect) and its an alloy? Please correct me if im wrong, thanks for your help guys.

[budagboy2]

Is the gtb 4 a more desireable car eventhough its less rare?

[sameerrao]

Well do you want a driver's car or a collector car?

As a driver you would want the faster one wouldnt you. Personally i would take the last of the series anyway because of contunual refinement and development. The GTB/4 has all the enhancements over the years.

From a collectors standpoint as you are spending approximately twice as much on a 6 carb than a GTB/4, you would naturally be more reluctant to use the car a lot as your investment value may drop with too many miles on it.

Anyway all the 275s are nice cars and one my favorite Ferraris of all time.

I hope you have gone thru all the pages that 666fast has submitted - it is an informative set.


You need to get with some Ferrari collectors who already own one to tell you the inner secrets. Also talk to your dealer and Ferrari Club of America.

I am just a fan who reads up on these models but have obviously no ownership experience to fall back on.

[budagboy2]

Thanks for the info samerrao. Yes this car is more of an investment but it will definitely be driven juts less than the f50. The guy that we dealt with at classic coach is one of our friends and knows practically everything about ferraris and lamborghinis. So we will be consulting him before anything happens.

[sameerrao]

Best of luck Mike!

Just make sure you ask him about the price trends of both cars - who knows possibly the GTB/4 is increasing and the 6c dropping???