This week on Top Gear (August 1, 2004)

[evoWalo]

# The Stig power laps the Chevrolet Corvette C6
# Jeremy tries the BMW X3
# Volvo's new compact estate, the V50, makes an appearance
# Richard Hammond tries out Peugeot's new rep special, the 407
# Richard also sees what the Chevrolet Corvette C6 will do
# This week's star in the reasonably priced car is Patrick Kielty

[AlienDB7]

Wonder what Jeremy will say about the C6... consider he doesn't like corvettes. At least we got to hear what Richard has to say about it first.

[Daggernite]

I've Never seen a corvette in action before so this should be good! wonder what lap time it gets????

[Silvia_Drift]

I've Never seen a corvette in action before so this should be good! wonder what lap time it gets????

I'm guessing a 1.26 :twisted:.

[Anile8er]

I've Never seen a corvette in action before so this should be good! wonder what lap time it gets????

I'm guessing a 1.26 :twisted:.

i second that :twisted:

[Daggernite]

I say 1.25:8
Should be quick anyway I'll be disapointed if its slower than 1.28

[BADMIHAI]

I've Never seen a corvette in action before so this should be good! wonder what lap time it gets????

I'm guessing a 1.26 :twisted:.

i second that :twisted:

Why would you do that? :wink:

[Xploded]

Sounds like another good ep, cant wait to watch it when I get it he he .....

[DMbaseball1604]

yeah I wanna hear what they say about the C6....gonna be interesting..I also cannot stand the X3..I wonder what they will be saying about that..

[yg60m]

That's surprising they can lap the C6 in england now, even before we can read any article about it being driven in the magazines !!

IMO, this show how important Top Gear is, even for Americans.

[SDK2003]

5 Words
Chevrolet Corvette C6 - shockingly bad.

Beaten by a TVR 350C & a NSX in a drag race and slower around the track than a Mit Evo.... not to mention leaf spring rear suspension, poor quality interior and paper thin bodywork.

No wonder no one wants one in Europe

[Daggernite]

I know that the C6 dint get a too good review on top gear, BUT.. 40grand!! thats not bad! and it seemed to drift nicely, also that see though display thing was cool!
Was abit tacky tho when jeremy was poking the back of the car and bodyshell was moving :(
And that drag race was really cool!! go TVR!!

[crazidude]

5 Words
Chevrolet Corvette C6 - shockingly bad.


Beaten by a TVR 350C & a NSX in a drag race and slower around the track than a Mit Evo.... not to mention leaf spring rear suspension, poor quality interior and paper thin bodywork.

No wonder no one wants one in Europe

How the hell does it lose to an NSX? It has more torque and power. It isn't that much heaver than the NSX... That seems wrong...

[graywolf624]

Beaten by a TVR 350C & a NSX in a drag race and slower around the track than a Mit Evo.... not to mention leaf spring rear suspension, poor quality interior and paper thin bodywork.
"

the c5 wouldnt lose to the mit evo.. dont know how the c6 would. also dont see how the nsx could win a drag race against it either.
an evo will do better in the real world of a bumpy street.. but on a track it should be eaten alive thanks to its awd which is a benefit over bumps but a hinderance on a track.

[SFDMALEX]

I know that the C6 dint get a too good review on top gear, BUT.. 40grand!! !!

That can get you an EVO which is faster then the C6. According to the provided info.

[he7lius]

Guys be careful otherwise RC45 will come and hunt you down.

[graywolf624]

That can get you an EVO which is faster then the C6. According to the provided info.

according to what info provided?

It doesnt win 1/4.. it didnt win lap time... what did it win? What info are you people talking about..

Certainly wasn't top gears.. isnt an evo in the top 10

1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2

And it certainly wouldnt be 1/4.. an evo isnt mid 12s..

[SFDMALEX]

That can get you an EVO which is faster then the C6. According to the provided info.

according to what info provided?

It doesnt win 1/4.. it didnt win lap time... what did it win? What info are you people talking about..

Certainly wasn't top gears.. isnt an evo in the top 10

1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2

And it certainly wouldnt be 1/4.. an evo isnt mid 12s..

WTF Sorry. I swear I saw someone post that it lapped slower then the Evo. :?

[Minacious]

I never like to get into these back and forths because each individual will have their never changing sometimes biased opinions. I do want to comment on all those who dislike the C6. Here we have a fifty thousand dollar car sitting pretty with cars that cost many, many thousands more. Even if you hate the Corvette you have to repsect what it can do along side much more expensive and in most cases, yes, much better built cars.

[T-Bird]

why doesn't anyone have the damn CGT at number 1 on that damn list! every car should be dropped down a notch!

[EthanGilles]

official time for the vette is 1.26.8 !

Wow :shock:

Better than the 911 GT3 (despite that the C6 must have the same american cars problem)

It was a dry time?

[SDK2003]

That can get you an EVO which is faster then the C6. According to the provided info.

according to what info provided?

It doesnt win 1/4.. it didnt win lap time... what did it win? What info are you people talking about..

Certainly wasn't top gears.. isnt an evo in the top 10

1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2

And it certainly wouldnt be 1/4.. an evo isnt mid 12s..

That list is about 4 weeks out of date -add :

Porsche Carrera GT : 1min 19 secs
Noble M12 GTO-3 : 1 min 25.0 secs
Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (Wet) : 1 min 25.8 secs
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320 : 1 min 26.0 secs
Lotus Exige S2 (Wet) : 1 min 26.9 secs
TVR T350C : 1 min 27.0 secs
Porsche 911 GT3 (Wet) : 1 min 27.2 secs




official time for the vette is 1.26.8 !

Better than the 911 GT3 (despite that the C6 must have the same american cars problem)

It was a dry time?

911 GT3 was in wet conditions

[godspeed06]

there is absolutely no way it would lose to an nsx. he launched it wrong. the c5 would beat an nsx in a drag race. its like top gear blatantly lied about how fast the car was. and did you like how they neglected to mention that it beat the 911. the british can bitch all they want about the quality of the interior of the vette - no one cares. no one should even consider interior when buying such a car. the interior of a 911 is the ugliest i have ever seen. its the most bland thing you could ever imagine. they never mention that, they just call it functional. just because its american it gets bashed. i love top gear, but when it comes to a review of an american car they can't be trusted.

[SDK2003]

^ LOL

IMO anyone can make a plastic car and stick a V8 in it, yeah sure it's cheap but it needs to be.

[Vansquish]

The problem with the C6 that they tested is that it doesn't appear to have been equipped with the Magnetic suspension package, I'm sure if it had been, it would've improved its laptime considerably... 1:26.8 is not a bad time really, but it's not really representative of the vehicle. As for not losing to an NSX, I'm not convinced that it should've beaten it. The recent NSXs have been appreciably faster than those in the '90's, and if you watch some of the BM drag race videos that are out on the net, you'll find that they give Porsches, and even Ferraris a run for their money, so it seems fairly likely that it would beat the Vette. (I'm not suggesting that the Vette is slow by any means, just that over the distance measured, it would be slower than the NSX and basically not have a chance next to the Trevor)

[T-Bird]

yeah the NSX also jumped the line before any of the other cars. Not anyone can build a Corvette and It's that simple just like not anyone can build a 911 they are their own cars in the respects but the fact is that the Corvette raped the 911 period and should have beat the NSX I've seen that one many of times NSX can't beat a Corvette. The TVR that's cool that is an amazing machine which you can't buy in more than 70% of the world. but by the statement: "IMO anyone can make a plastic car and stick a V8 in it," anyone can build a Carbon Fiber car and stick anything from a V8 to V12 in it and even the Americans do that well.

[JiggaStyles09]

yea i have seen the BM clips of the NSX taking out a 355, they have it running 12.8 but then again its the NSX type-s zero or whatever fucking model it is. the one on top gear was a standard NSX i assume. it still doesnt seem right that the C6 got taken out by the NSX to me. the '02 z06 definitly takes out the NSX and this C6 should be pretty close to the Z06 as far as straight line acceleration. but whatever it is still half the price of the nsx.

[graywolf624]

they have it running 12.8 but then again its the NSX type-s zero or whatever fucking model it is

considering a z06 runs closer to a 12.3 that standard nsx should be toast.

[Vansquish]

yes...except...there's the small issue of what the engine in the NSX actually produces...the gentleman's agreement between Japanese manufacturers to leave power at 276bhp is not universally followed. The R34 GTR when dynoed bone stock runs about 310bhp at the crank. The last test of an NSX was one I read in Autocar magazine last year, it was the new version with the revised bodystyling and it was of the standard car, not the Type R or S-Zero etc..etc... They quoted performance figures from Honda, but said that they felt it was much quicker than that. I won't argue that the C6 should've been faster than it was (Motortrend just ran a 4.3 second 0-60 and mid-twelves for the quarter), and should've beaten the NSX, but I find it kind of unlikely that the car would be much quicker than the new NSX.

[drakin]

Um v.important question before you start barking :D

What condition was the track?

An awd car is going to beat a massive rear wheel drive in the wet and we are talking british wet here, they pratically invented wet. :)

[JiggaStyles09]

yea i would agree as to not much quicker, as im not knocking on the NSX as i think its still a great car (could use a redesign :wink: ) but i would have bet a lot of money that the NSX would be beaten. oh well.

[sikx5]

The vette didnt have a chance at beating the nsx. its a legendary car and aryton senna helped in the creation of it. thats another reason why the design has not changed, they've found a good thing, and are not going to change radically.
and i watched the vid again, the nsx did not jump the line, its just a bloody quick car. no suprise to me the nsx flogged the vette :lol:

[SDK2003]

Um v.important question before you start barking :D
What condition was the track?
An awd car is going to beat a massive rear wheel drive in the wet and we are talking british wet here, they pratically invented wet. :)

Two things

1) It was completely dry
2) All the cars were RWD anyway

Finally, why do people keep mentioning the Z06 !!

[godspeed06]

The vette didnt have a chance at beating the nsx. its a legendary car and aryton senna helped in the creation of it. thats another reason why the design has not changed, they've found a good thing, and are not going to change radically.
and i watched the vid again, the nsx did not jump the line, its just a bloody quick car. no suprise to me the nsx flogged the vette :lol:

you're an idiot.

[ttipton]

Watch the video again. The Nsx lost to the vette.. The vette came in 3rd.

[zr2man99]

The only reason the vette lost is that hammond does not know how to drive. Vette should have raped the NSX. Hell, a stock C5 would stay with a stock NSX in a drag race.

[SDK2003]

Here come the excuses :roll:

[graywolf624]

2003 nsx 1/4 mile: 13.5

2003 corvette c5 1/4: 13.5
2003 corvette zo6 1/4: 12.5

Any questions?

[T-Bird]

Watch the video again. The Nsx lost to the vette.. The vette came in 3rd.

Dumb ASS!
watch it again!

[ingko]

Watch the video again. The Nsx lost to the vette.. The vette came in 3rd.

Dumb ASS!
watch it again!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Haha, welp, the reason the vette lost was because they probly only did one take during that portion of the filming. OR Hammonds reaction time is very slow. Another far away excuse was that it was a pre-production model. But who cares, everyone knows what the ZO6 can do and since the new C6 can match it in a straight line, it will undoubtedly beat the NSX, ceterus paribus.

I hope they review the new ZO6 model when that comes out :P

[PATo355]

Wasnt the NSX type R ? Maybe that is why it beat the Vette

[Silvia_Drift]

Wasnt the NSX type R ? Maybe that is why it beat the Vette

I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Type R. I didn't see the carbon fibre wing or front lip.