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Ford Capri 2.8i
07-05-2004, 03:08 PM
Im just like to know which car is the trickiest for driving ever in the history of the car for other members...i mean the car that requires the most skillful abilities to drive it into the limit or in wet

for me the decision is not very clear....but there you go 3 cars
- the 1978 porsche 911 turbo (4 speed gearbox) (back engine, no setting for understeering, an engine with a big punch, no progressivity)
- the renault alpine gt turbo(a car with identhical philosophy to the porsche 911, with a brutal garret turbo in it....a very high limit due to the tyres and suspension, but brutal on limits)
- the renault 5 turbo tour de corse.....a mid-engined car, but with a very short wheel base....and a big turbo in the car to get about 285bhp for a 1400 engine

Ford Capri 2.8i
07-05-2004, 03:11 PM
sorry....the trickiest car to be considered has to be a everyday use car.....or a car which should be alowed to be driven on any road

BADMIHAI
07-05-2004, 05:11 PM
sorry....the trickiest car to be considered has to be a everyday use car.....or a car which should be alowed to be driven on any road



Jaguar XJR-15.

Vansquish
07-05-2004, 05:15 PM
LOL...I remember the outtakes where JC crashed one of those into the camera car hehehe. One of the trickiest on-limit handlers out there is definetely the Ford RS200 in full rally trim, it had massive power and a very short wheelbase, which made it snap-oversteer rather suddenly.

Gimp
07-05-2004, 05:22 PM
Yugo or Pinto.

SPAD
07-05-2004, 05:57 PM
I also heard that the XJ-15 was very hard to drive

nutsy
07-05-2004, 06:04 PM
i think it"s the berlinettte alpine.
very fast in the mountain but hard in a straight line.



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graywolf624
07-05-2004, 07:05 PM
Reliant robin. That thing is a roll waiting to happen. Its limits arent that far but that wasnt your question.

LotusGT1
07-05-2004, 07:34 PM
Old 911's

The concept is wrong, it's quite an accomplishment Porsche can built cars like they do today sticking to that concept...

Hegemony
07-05-2004, 07:37 PM
I think a TVR speed 12 would defy the average driver on the edge or in the wet.

Cheers,
Russ

SilviaEvo
07-05-2004, 08:32 PM
think a TVR speed 12 would defy the average driver on the edge or in the wet.

its supposed to be an everyday car
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[Jaguar XJR-15
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arnt those the really old ones?

hemi_fan
07-05-2004, 09:05 PM
after i bought it, i realized that fox body mustangs with stock suspension are absolutely terrible in anything other than a bright sunny day. In the rain, it slides all over the road, and has no rear-end grip whatsoever.

mit5005
07-05-2004, 11:13 PM
For all of you saying the Jag XJR-15, you must have heard that from Jeremy in one of his videos. It does seem very hard to drive but I don't think this question could really be answered unless we drove the cars ourselves. And there are so many to choose from too.

Hegemony
07-05-2004, 11:19 PM
surely the speed 12 is as every day as a Jag xjr15....they did make production drive on the road models.

number77
07-06-2004, 01:34 AM
i think the engine in the xj-15 was mounted too high (like an extra inch)
but if it was raced it can be driven well i'm assuming.
i don't know the hardest, but i know the car that has a hard limit to get to is the viper gts. very few people can use the cars full potential imo

AlienDB7
07-06-2004, 01:39 AM
How about that 3 wheeled car Tiff drove in his Burning Rubber video? That "car" sure was tricky to handle... even Tiff managed to roll it ;)

komotar
07-06-2004, 02:14 AM
Yugo or Pinto.

Yugo is not hard to drive....

Vansquish
07-06-2004, 09:22 AM
Tiff intentionally rolled a Reliant Robin in his "Burning Rubber" vid. As for the XJR-15, they were produced for a one-make race series but a few, an extremely small few, were produced and sold as road cars. The engine was too high, the transmission was terrible for road use and made an incredible amount of noise and the mass of that V12 out back was too much for the chassis to handle.

moan786
07-07-2004, 06:20 PM
difficult cars to drive?
any superpowerfull light bodied rwd car without driver control aids is gonna cause a driver who doesnt know what hes doing serious problems.

btw former F1 driver Gerhard Burger has stated that he found the F40 an incredibly difficult car to handle both dry n wet ,

also Tvrs are notorious for being a little too "tricky" in the wet. ask anyone at pistonheads and they'll echo the above sentiment.

ol school 911s too

coloradosilver
07-07-2004, 06:56 PM
My best firend's 1980 AMC Eagle.

Not because it handles poorly (even though it does), but because whenever you take it out, you never know what's going to break or blow up. If you're at speed and attempt to turn on the AC, the radio will go out and the speedometer would stop working. One time a wheel just fell off when we were cruising home from a day of skiing. We were only going about 45 mph, but the right rear just flew off the car. It was things like that which made that car tricky. It was high anxiety driving.

blinkmeat
07-07-2004, 08:49 PM
I hear the 996 GT2 is hard to handle

X-ale
07-07-2004, 09:09 PM
a 3 wheel ATV :!: :?: Ok thats not a car, huh...it should be something like a RWD, skinny tyres, front engine, no ABS, no TC, no AC, standard H with overdrive (on top of the knob!), high ride, lotsa roll, pretty heavy, worn brakes... well thats me ol' '76 240 GL. At least if you crashed you were in a volvo :wink:

Vansquish
07-07-2004, 09:49 PM
I hear the 996 GT2 is hard to handle

The 996 GT2 is known to be a difficult car to handle compared to the standard C2 and the Turbo, but it is nowhere near as hairy to drive as the 993 GT2 was.