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SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 02:57 PM
These cops must have seen it on tv, how soldiers treat the iraqis, so they said, hé, lets try it to. :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW ppl don't take these words to serious, j/k :wink:




http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5279043/

T-Bird
06-25-2004, 02:59 PM
you know that stuff happens more often than you think

SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 03:00 PM
you know that stuff happens more often than you think

You sure about that :shock:

graywolf624
06-25-2004, 03:01 PM
I think the police officers need to be dealt with, but I'm also ticked cause we all know now the jackass car theif will get off.

T-Bird
06-25-2004, 03:03 PM
yeah I am there is alot of shady shit that goes on in the police departmaents and even the fire department here in Chicago.

graywolf624
06-25-2004, 03:04 PM
I think the police officers need to be dealt with, but I'm also ticked cause we all know now the jackass car theif will get off.

That being said.. a few centuries ago he would have been hung and in some countries they'd cut off his fingers..

SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 03:05 PM
I think the police officers need to be dealt with, but I'm also ticked cause we all know now the jackass car theif will get off.


Yeah, I agree on that, they don't get enough IMO.


How long does it take in the US for a carthief to be out again on the streets?

nthfinity
06-25-2004, 03:06 PM
you know that stuff happens more often than you think

You sure about that :shock:

ive always despised comments that say "more then you think" i believe that i am the only person who truly knows what i think. a more accurate way to allude to what you have written could be "i think you know that this happens more then i think you think" but that just gets complicated as a play on simplistic words. :wink:

odds are that this happens much more then what the camera sees, but in reality, the camera is a more effective witness then a human is.

he shouldn't have been beaten while down; but should get the proper mandatory sentence which fits teh crime. i doubt this will happen

nthfinity
06-25-2004, 03:07 PM
ow long does it take in the US for a carthief to be out again on the streets?


41 days in juvinial detention in Detroit.

SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 03:21 PM
ow long does it take in the US for a carthief to be out again on the streets?


41 days in juvinial detention in Detroit.


Yikes, thats kind of weak :o

666fast
06-25-2004, 03:26 PM
ow long does it take in the US for a carthief to be out again on the streets?


41 days in juvinial detention in Detroit.


Yikes, thats kind of weak :o

Thats if you are under 18. If you are older, it depends on your criminal history. I'm sure you could get a year or two in prison if it's not the first time you've done it.

nthfinity
06-25-2004, 03:33 PM
Yikes, thats kind of weak


yeah, thats my personal story.
a 15 year old child of a dead mother, father in jail; living with his grandparents stole my car a few years ago.

he was joy riding it, removed some of the stereo components, cash i cept in it (what was i doing wth $700 in Detroit?) school books/bookbag, and 100+ properly purchassed CD's.

within 2 hours, we were driving to the police station to report it stolen in my friends 944 turbo when my old Jeep pulled out in front of us. needless to say, we cought up to him in a hurry, but just as we cought up, my porsche owning friend thought he could continue his velocity at a residential 90 degree trajectory. its a great handling porsche, but there was no way we would have made the turn. we hopped a curb, popped 2 tires (front left/rear right) moved the radiator, engine 2". the jeep had escapped.

a few days later (talk about detroit latency) we found out the perp had crashed into a house, then a parked car. the air bag saved his excuse for a life. the car was totalled, and he was back on the streets before school got out for the summer.

this was his 3rd car he had been cought steeling.

SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 03:44 PM
Yikes, thats kind of weak


yeah, thats my personal story.
a 15 year old child of a dead mother, father in jail; living with his grandparents stole my car a few years ago.

he was joy riding it, removed some of the stereo components, cash i cept in it (what was i doing wth $700 in Detroit?) school books/bookbag, and 100+ properly purchassed CD's.

within 2 hours, we were driving to the police station to report it stolen in my friends 944 turbo when my old Jeep pulled out in front of us. needless to say, we cought up to him in a hurry, but just as we cought up, my porsche owning friend thought he could continue his velocity at a residential 90 degree trajectory. its a great handling porsche, but there was no way we would have made the turn. we hopped a curb, popped 2 tires (front left/rear right) moved the radiator, engine 2". the jeep had escapped.

a few days later (talk about detroit latency) we found out the perp had crashed into a house, then a parked car. the air bag saved his excuse for a life. the car was totalled, and he was back on the streets before school got out for the summer.

this was his 3rd car he had been cought steeling.


WOW, none of this stuff happens here, well not that bad as there.

And damn about the Porsche, thats why these hotpursuit should be performed by the police, but I understand why you guys did it :(

ahmedgiyab
06-25-2004, 03:53 PM
In some countries the cops are criminals.... :?

SPEEDKILLAR
06-25-2004, 04:07 PM
About police & beatings, most of you guys now shit about that subject!
Mostly if you see beating video's, you see only the part of the guy getting beated. You don't see if he hit an officer first, no that's not spectacular enough.
Media fucks up the entire thing.

And you know, I don't even care if one gets beaten by a cop. There is totaly NO respect anymore for the police. A police officer gets shot, well it's his job people say. A punk getting shot and it's a riot. Police using to much violence blablabla.
Like soccerriots, they brake down the whole place, police do a charge (everybody that gets in the way get walked over or clubbed) and what does the media do? Right, judge the police.
Criminals are getting way to much rights in this world!

And people make me sick! They get a parking ticket, they go to internal affairs to complain about the officer. Get caught for speeding, flame at the officer about other things he could do, the officer reacts in an angry way and they go to internal affairs. But they don't tell what happened before the reaction of the cop.
And these are FACTS I have first hand. My father is with internal affairs of the local pd here, and eum, if there's violence that comes into part. In most cases it's people their own fault, or they hit first or they resist arrest and go lying about everything.

I partially agree with you thamar, but in this case, I didn't see any attack on the police :?

he7lius
06-25-2004, 05:26 PM
With all repect to everyone here and to all police guys but i think the police in Portugal have set a example to all the polices in the world on how to deal with people.

I saw many times fans and many other people provoking the police and they didn't react.

But maybe its a cultural thing. I say this cos its not normal for police to beat up someone without cause in Portugal.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

geekdiggy
06-26-2004, 02:07 AM
i don't see why it's necessary to conduct an investigation, there's nothing TO investigate. cops beat an unarmed surrendered man and it got caught on tape, they're criminals, what's the mystery? it's even more sick that their names aren't being released and they're getting PAID LEAVE.

"protect and serve" MY ASS, it should be more like "beat your ass and get away with it"

graywolf624
06-26-2004, 02:18 AM
i don't see why it's necessary to conduct an investigation, there's nothing TO investigate. cops beat an unarmed surrendered man and it got caught on tape, they're criminals, what's the mystery? it's even more sick that their names aren't being released and they're getting PAID LEAVE.

Innocent until proven guilty?

He looked like he surrendered there, and Id like to double check that.. but he was clearly resisting arrest before that.. So theres clearly an off chance hes did something after the surrender thing. I dunno.. Id tend to lean your way, but they should at least look into it. And they definitly shouldnt let the car jacker sue the city.

geekdiggy
06-26-2004, 04:17 AM
Innocent until proven guilty?

He looked like he surrendered there, and Id like to double check that.. but he was clearly resisting arrest before that.. So theres clearly an off chance hes did something after the surrender thing.

really dude it's all there in the video, the guy was surrendering. how much of a threat can he be if he's on his hands and knees surrounded by upwards of 3-5 armed police officers? he was no threat at all, the cops were just using him as a punch bag to relieve their frustrations from all the WORK he made them do. in some parts of the world (i.e. america) that's known as police brutality.

Fleischmann
06-26-2004, 07:34 AM
I saw a horrible video once in TV. Two imigrants were caught on some crime, can't remember what though. They surrendered, but the Police still acted brutal. No, no, they didn't waste their precious energy to the business. They used...dogs. A man lying on the ground screaming for help, scanning the ground with his hands in search for a stick to hit the animal, who was biting at his ankle. And the worst part was hearing the "good guys" laughing at the situation.


These police officers are not criminals...they just aren't humans. :(



"protect and serve" MY ASS, it should be more like "beat your ass and get away with it" 8) 8) 8)

graywolf624
06-26-2004, 01:00 PM
he was no threat at all

I'm not 100 percent sold. I think you might be right, but I'm not sure. Why is there nagging doubt? Why didnt he surrender when he got out of the car instead of trying to run?

bmagni
06-26-2004, 03:53 PM
As the good almighty Rolling Stones would say:
"every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners, saints"

blah
06-26-2004, 04:12 PM
No matter what went on before, as soon as a suspect surrenders, the police cannot beat on him. He could have eaten a baby right in front of them, but as long as he has surrendered they cannot beat on him. The police are to serve and protect, not to find justice, and carry out sentences.

graywolf624
06-26-2004, 04:14 PM
No matter what went on before, as soon as a suspect surrenders, the police cannot beat on him.

I agree.. My point is that while it looks like he surrenders, they better damn well double check with eye witnesses to be sure.
That and they better not let the bastard sue and he better still go to jail.

blah
06-26-2004, 04:26 PM
His family will sue. Although some one should sue them for not bringing him up right.

bmagni
06-26-2004, 04:32 PM
His family will sue. Although some one should sue them for not bringing him up right.

yeah well they should sue my parents for not teaching me how to drive slowly

blah
06-26-2004, 05:00 PM
If you think driving over the speed limit, and carjacking a car, cuasing the city to chase, you which, cost millions of dollars everytime, is the same, then you are wayyyyyyyyy off.

Just read what you confessed to, and yea i think your family should be sued for not beating ur ass when you fucked off.

bmagni
06-26-2004, 05:23 PM
If you think driving over the speed limit, and carjacking a car, cuasing the city to chase, you which, cost millions of dollars everytime, is the same, then you are wayyyyyyyyy off.

Just read what you confessed to, and yea i think your family should be sued for not beating ur ass when you fucked off.

lets say i drive fast but not wrecklessly, for what i did (first and only time ive done something like that) i got my punishment... and another fact: ive never crashed

and also i didnt make a carjack...

graywolf624
06-26-2004, 11:11 PM
and also i didnt make a carjack...

No but this assclown did.

Sachmo12345
06-27-2004, 12:11 AM
i would love to beat the shit out of a car thief

Fleischmann
06-27-2004, 01:29 PM
Because of these kind of "law enforcers" Police has a bad image everywhere. Here in Poland, they are are often called 'dogs'.

blah
06-27-2004, 01:47 PM
we call them Pigs.

SPEEDKILLAR
06-27-2004, 02:12 PM
We call'em ducks or piggies

DanielW
06-28-2004, 12:51 AM
that cop was an asshole. he just kicked the perp in the head for no reason, and then beat the hell out of him with his flashlight. :x

chipanggo
06-28-2004, 01:39 AM
no one is above the law. policemen, being enforces of the law, have no right in violating the human rights of anyone, even criminals. police brutality is definitely in violation of human rights. if a cop is guilty of this, then he should be dealt with accordingly to the letter of the law.