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yalbader
06-21-2004, 12:37 PM
Do you think there will be an AMG version of the SLR? I hope so. The quad-turbo V12 from Chrysler ME 4-12 with 800 hp or so will be good :twisted:
p.s. I know the SLR's V8 is built at AMG.
evoWalo
06-21-2004, 12:43 PM
I hope the AMG version's a manual.
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 12:58 PM
hell no there wont be an upped version of the SLR it's damn good as it is do you honestly think that AMG can do better than McLaren? that car was built for that engine you can't just drop a bigger engine in there and hope it works. The car is balanced and tuned with that exact engine and layout and Horsepower they won't take the car back from McLaren and give it back to AMG considering they took an SL55 to turn into the SLR not much left of it but it's there.
If MB let AMG so do so to the SLR.. I will lose all respect for MB..
PATo355
06-21-2004, 01:03 PM
Do you think there will be an AMG version of the SLR? I hope so. The quad-turbo V12 from Chrysler ME 4-12 with 800 hp or so will be good :twisted:
p.s. I know the SLR's V8 is built at AMG.
WTF ... the 5.5 liter AMG engine was tuned by mclaren , you want it to be tuned again by AMG ? dont think so , and they will certainly wont put any Chrysler engine in it .
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 01:13 PM
/\/\ that Chrysler engine is actually an AMG engine it's the same one used in the Zonda except it has 4 turbos hooked up to it/\/\
but still this wil never happen they aren't even making enought SLR's to tune them unless they did like 3 of them a year.
nejcdolinsek
06-21-2004, 02:01 PM
Definitely not. I don't think they would be able to extract any more power without jeapordizing the reliability of the car... but thats why we have Brabus for, right? :wink:
MercedeSChink
06-21-2004, 02:16 PM
ok, first off, the SLR was built in the Mclaren factory, second, why the fuk would you wanna compare the SLR to the concept car ME12?! its still in concept stages, and the engine will possibly be detuned...the pre production SLR is 800 hps also, but emissions and shit like that probably forced the germans to detune the car...
5vz-fe
06-21-2004, 02:23 PM
People who buy the SLR surely wants top of the line exotic. And u are telling those ppl all of a sudden there's a better version, they are not gonna be happy for sure!!
Tomerville
06-21-2004, 02:29 PM
I hope the AMG version's a manual.
Rumor had it they couldn't develop a clutch big enought to harness the power. Same with the Audi RS6. The SLR might get the 7Gtronic, or whatever that new 7-speed in the '05 models has.
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 03:01 PM
ok, first off, the SLR was built in the Mclaren factory, second, why the fuk would you wanna compare the SLR to the concept car ME12?! its still in concept stages, and the engine will possibly be detuned...the pre production SLR is 800 hps also, but emissions and shit like that probably forced the germans to detune the car...
OK no one was comparing the SLR McLaren to the AMG built Chrysler ME412 he just mentioned it's engine that's it. And it was also mentioned that the SLR is a McLaren built car a few times.
SPEEDKILLAR
06-21-2004, 03:32 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Exactly :roll:
A £300k car, 200mph 0-60 in less than 4secs and you want them to do an AMG version. :roll:
Mclaren vs. AMG ..... hmmm... McLaren are a million times better :)
It would be so stupid that i think ths thread needs to be closed. Partly because the rumor is a load of shit and partly because of thinks like i hope it's a manual.
The SLR has been designed... that is all you are going to get :roll: ... until the next Merc-McLaren :twisted:
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 04:15 PM
I think that this should stay open just to see how many people rip on his stupid idea. :twisted:
DMbaseball1604
06-21-2004, 04:36 PM
haha, I agree with you T-bird...if they did do an AMG version...first of all I would crap my pants if AMG were able to get any more BHP out of that engine than McLaren already has..and second..if AMG did anything to the SLR the performance figures would not be any better especially since all merc would do is make it 2 tons heavier...
Ford Capri 2.8i
06-21-2004, 04:45 PM
For me it doesnt make any sense for an AMG-SLR model either...because the AMG means preparations for big series.....or regular models of merc....whereas the SLR is an asocciation of 2 brand, the McLaren and the Merc, for making a sport car in a few units
JiggaStyles09
06-21-2004, 05:56 PM
yea an SLR-AMG and then BMW can tune the McLaren F1 and make a motorsport version of it to compete. fabulous idea. Chris Bangle can be the stylist of it im sure it would be a hit. give it the ole "flame surface" treatment, it will work wonders on the aerodynamics. :wink:
I think that this should stay open just to see how many people rip on his stupid idea. :twisted:
i didnt want to be mean but i couldnt help myself
dylan99
06-21-2004, 08:50 PM
that engine is tuned by AMG, McLaren only did the chassis and other things but they had no influence with the engine what so ever
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 10:36 PM
yes they did they, tore apart that engine which was an SL55 engine and they tuned the bitch way up the engine is definitely flowing with McLaren blood sorry to burst your bubble.
graywolf624
06-21-2004, 11:43 PM
It may get a minor refresh if it stays around for a few years.. But I wouldnt count on a special version unless your talking an outside tuner. Id love to see what a tuner would do if they got their hands on it. (a real one, not a ricer one)
T-Bird
06-21-2004, 11:53 PM
The only problem is that this is McLaren so if they did anything to the body, Anything it would totally fuck up the aerodynamics of the car and they can't change the symbol on the front since that is the intake plenum right there so no big B symbol :wink: and that car is soo perfectly balanced that it could get easily screwed up with alot of mods on the engine. I'm sure those fan styled wheels have an actual purpose to them aswell eventhough they offer a second wheel option.
yg60m
06-22-2004, 12:56 AM
I don't think there will be an AMG version of the SLR, it's an official Mercedes part now and i don't think Mercedes will let AMG interfere in McLaren deal ...
But i am sure Brabus and the other tuners will do something with the SLR :twisted:
ngudan
06-22-2004, 01:32 AM
Well i suspect that it is possible, but the chances are minimal.
Just looking at it's competitors -the Enzo & Carrera GT-, there doesnt seem to be any sign of any further movement into a harder-core verson.
In the case that a SLR AMG is made, i know there will be many upset SLR owners :)
geebee
06-22-2004, 02:12 AM
As I read in the tests, there is some tuning work which should be done on SLR. It should be made lighter, have manual gearbox and better feeling of the brakes. But I do not thing, that somebody is able to do it better than McLaren. They should make some more sporty version. Real supersport does not need electricaly set seats, tempomat and automatic gearbox.
amanthapar
06-22-2004, 04:48 AM
nope there wont be a AMG slr...
amg is not as good as mclaren...
and brabus hmm......unlikely cos they wont be able to do anything and
mclaren better than brabus
I hope the AMG version's a manual.
Rumor had it they couldn't develop a clutch big enought to harness the power. Same with the Audi RS6. The SLR might get the 7Gtronic, or whatever that new 7-speed in the '05 models has.
I don't think that is write. Their are few cars with much more HP than an SLR and is a manual. Maybe MB people just don't like manual all togather they like to sit back and relax while the car accelerate.. :D
zachiot1
06-22-2004, 07:09 AM
I AMG can tune the SLR, we can wonder if RUF will tune the Carrera GT. IMO, i don't think so.
Bilal786
06-22-2004, 07:15 AM
Ok, Lets get some facts straight:
SLR BUILT BY MCLAREN BUT PARTS, AND ENGINE (WHICH WAS BUILT AND TUNED BY AMG) COMES FROM GERMANY. THE ASSEMBLY ONLY TAKES PLACE IN LONDON.
SLR AERODYNAMICS CHANGED AND DESIGN MODIFIED BY MCLAREN FROM ORIGINAL VISION SLR CONCEPT. THATS WHY IT LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES.
ME412 HAS CL65 ENGINE BUT WITH TWO EXTRA TURBOS THATS IT. UNLIKELY TO EVER SEE PRODUCTION.
AMG GOVERNED BY MERCEDES SAFETY STANDARDS, NO OTHER TUNER CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER AND RELIABLY.
AND AS FOR MORE POWER, THERE ARE INSIDERS SAYING SOON THERE WILL A BE A POWER UPGRADE AVAILABLE.....DON'T KNOW RELEASE THOUGH.... :mrgreen:
T-Bird
06-22-2004, 03:23 PM
actually it's been stated in many articles that McLaren went over that engine with a fine tooth comb fixing whatever they could and the SLR (VISION concept) was built by Mclaren from the SL body design. ME412 Zonda version of the engine not CL65. this is getting really full of stupid ass comments with people thinking that AMG can and would tune the SLR (stupidest thing ever)
ahmedgiyab
06-22-2004, 04:04 PM
Someone said this: A Mercedes without an auto gearbox is like a Mercedes without its emblem.... :wink:
yalbader
06-22-2004, 06:08 PM
actually it's been stated in many articles that McLaren went over that engine with a fine tooth comb fixing whatever they could and the SLR (VISION concept) was built by Mclaren from the SL body design. ME412 Zonda version of the engine not CL65.
I think this is true. As far as I know McLaren never built engines ever. McLaren F1 had a BMW V12. Their Formula 1 cars never used built-in-house engines. And the SLR which is a Mercedes, is powered by Mercedes!
The Zonda uses the old 6.0L 48 valves V12 that was on the last generation S,CL,SL. Current generation none AMG S,SL,CL classes along with Maybach have a 36 valves 5.5L V12. AMG 65 cars have a 36 valves 6.0L V12, which was modified for the ME 4-12.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=32&article_id=7770
yalbader
06-22-2004, 06:09 PM
actually it's been stated in many articles that McLaren went over that engine with a fine tooth comb fixing whatever they could and the SLR (VISION concept) was built by Mclaren from the SL body design. ME412 Zonda version of the engine not CL65.
I think this is true. As far as I know McLaren never built engines ever. McLaren F1 had a BMW V12. Their Formula 1 cars never used built-in-house engines. And the SLR which is a Mercedes, is powered by Mercedes!
The Zonda uses the old 6.0L 48 valves V12 that was on the last generation S,CL,SL. Current generation none AMG S,SL,CL classes along with Maybach have a 36 valves 5.5L V12. AMG 65 cars have a 36 valves 6.0L V12, which was modified for the ME 4-12.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=32&article_id=7770
amanthapar
06-23-2004, 01:46 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^zonda is a 7.3 liter guys
ahmedgiyab
06-23-2004, 04:07 AM
Zonda uses a 7.3 liter V12 AMG engine with 555bhp.... :)
Its almost the same engine that was used in the SL73 AMG (525bhp).... :wink:
yalbader
06-23-2004, 07:39 AM
The Zonda 7.3L V12 is based on the old 6.0L 48 valves V12.
I hope the AMG version's a manual.
Rumor had it they couldn't develop a clutch big enought to harness the power. Same with the Audi RS6. The SLR might get the 7Gtronic, or whatever that new 7-speed in the '05 models has.
Well they need to come over here to america then. We have 800,900, 1000 + HP cars just roaming around with no where to go, most with manuals too. ask RC-45, im sure hes ran into on of those BPU +++ Supras.
heyloo
07-02-2004, 01:34 PM
Hmm...would they? They already have McLaren tune the car........ -_-;; but it wouldn't hurt to do another tune up..lol
I hope the AMG version's a manual.
Rumor had it they couldn't develop a clutch big enought to harness the power. Same with the Audi RS6. The SLR might get the 7Gtronic, or whatever that new 7-speed in the '05 models has.
Well they need to come over here to america then. We have 800,900, 1000 + HP cars just roaming around with no where to go, most with manuals too. ask RC-45, im sure hes ran into on of those BPU +++ Supras.
LOL - and not just Supras either - we have a number of 900hp+ Vipers, Vettes and Camaros in Houston.
There are a bunch more in the 700hp+ catagory
fabro_s
07-02-2004, 02:36 PM
I think the engined tuned with McLaren is fine, but I actually agree its uselles in automatic, imagine the fun you can have eith a manual SLR
If there comes the SLR AMG..
How do u feel if u were the owner of normal SLR after spending lots of money!
All that want is that exclusivity!!
So..I aloso think the anser is no!
There never will! :)
T-Bird
07-03-2004, 12:50 PM
If there comes the SLR AMG..
How do u feel if u were the owner of normal SLR after spending lots of money!
All that want is that exclusivity!!
So..I aloso think the anser is no!
There never will! :)
shut up there will NEVER be an AMG version of a McLaren based off an AMG think about it!
sorry this just pisses me off when people think that this will happen.
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