Help Please

[DR.GONZO]

My brother is thinking of getting rid of his Ws6 t/a! For a Supra Is there any great info You know about them Which Particular Year's/models Were Better? Any site's with great Info on the 94-98 supra? Any Info greatly Appreciated, Thanks Everyone

[Evo]

Ask Gis.. He is a supra freak and could help you a lot..

[TT]

Dang Gonzo, after a whole year you still didn't get why we have a "car chat" section? :D

[DR.GONZO]

thanks evo, tt lol I guess not, I wasn't thinking I just went to genreral chat about anything but thanks for moving it here Will probably get me more help my bad lol

[Bling]

okay so he wants a mark 4 supra...

thats a 93 to 98 model...

93 to 95 are obd1 and therefore easier to get emissions straight...

i think all 98's are auto.

other than that they're aren't many differences in the years. tell your brother this, a supra is expensive. not just to buy, but to mod. since the f@f the kbb on that car jumped up like $10k. mods are expensive. with that said, you got the cash then you came to the right car to play with. stock block can hold over 900 rwhp. chasis is great. comfortable ride. and girls LOVE that car. you might ask if im accredited with supras, well yeah...i worked on a pro race team last year in the us on the ndra circuit. are shops car (its not my car) runs 9.28 on street tires in the quarter.

what specific ?'s you need answered?

[hemi_fan]

Getting rid of a T/A for a supra!?! That would be a tough call, but I presonally would want the Supra. I would think that the newer the better as long as u can get the manual tranny... but after reading Bling's more informative post, i guess not.

[graywolf624]

I'd take a supra over a t/a except for one thing. The supra costs way too much cause of demand. There nice, don't get me wrong.. But for the price of a tt supra(the only one thats really gonna compare to the t/a in performance) from 98 you could prolly get 3 t/as from 98.

[Minacious]

All '98s are not auto. It was the '96s that were all autos.

Have your brother go here: http://www.supraforums.com/

Make sure the one he gets is TT and not N/A or he will be very dissapointed in the performance.

[Bling]

appreciate it minacious, i couldnt remember. honestly a t/a is a fast stock car. throw like a 150 shot and some duals and haul ass. yeah, okay so then you max out everything and you make like 600 ish at the tire. not bad and certainly fast. you want to really move though? you want to piss off ferrari owners on the highway? get the supra, put a big single on it. and go run down formerly fast t/a's.

import all the way.

sorry man.

pooraforums is a great place to go learn btw, go call.

[T-Bird]

/\/\ What do you mean by Duals? dual exhaust, because a WS6 Trans/Am fast as fuck car has dual exhaust some even came with factory installed SLP straight pipes (mind you the car was built by SLP just like the SS) I personally would stick with the WS6 since everyone here is admitting that the Supra costs a bitch load of money and 900hp is not cheap to do period it involves more than just engine mods unless you don't want to move or stop. Also American Muscle cars rule period.

[X-ale]

Also American Muscle cars rule period.

Until it trys to turn :wink:

[T-Bird]

/\/\ now let's not turn this into one of those./\/\
But they don't need to turn because they just kick the ass out and go from there eventhough they handle better than people give them credit for and how well do you expect a very heavy 1000hp Supra to handle?

[hemi_fan]

Yeah, a T/A has the handling package, and firebirds are known to handle well... i bet it could out-handle a Supra. Also, for the money, im sure he could build up a nice 700-800hp LS1 in that mofo that would dominate 1000hp supras easily. For some reason, 1000hp supras are never nearly as fast as they should be. I mean, ive seen them running double digit 1/4 miles... come on... I know a guy on the mustang forums that runs a 500hp Fox-Body that runs mid-10s on street tires... They're good for highway runs, but thats about it. Id stick w/ the T/A if it were my call.

[graywolf624]

stock for stock a transam with a 1le suspension would hand a supra it's ass.

[Bling]

well it boils down to the old import vs domestic thought. ws6's aint cheap either man. it is easier to mod an all motor car. supras can make over 800 with BOLT ons. possible, yeah ive helped put em together at www.batlground.com where I used to work last summer. as far as handling. supras and t/a's are really big cars when you get them. stock supras weigh like 3400 lbs, i imagine the t/a is similar. stock for stock on the track, the t/a would probably win, but that has more to do with the torque curve on a all motor car vs a turbo car. i know you all have your opinions, but one thing doesnt change...as pretty as a t/a is, it still has that shit plastic gm interior. uhh, no class.

[graywolf624]

ws6's aint cheap either man

I can get you a ls1 engined 98 transam for 8000 dollars sub 70000 miles. ws6 for under 12000.

A supras gonna cost you alot more. twin turbo youd be lucky to get upper 20s for those type of miles that year.

[T-Bird]

Well he already has the WS6 so it won't cost him much of anything and the fact that it will be collectible since there aren't an extremely large amount of the WS6 packaged cars. And you could make a bitch load of power with bolt-ons on that car aswell and it sounds better. well atleast with the T/A interior he won't have to put in a million gauges and computers inside to keep the car from blowing up and hell if he did it would be cheaper to get a new engine than it would for the Supra.

[graywolf624]

If you have that much money to burn, keep the ws6 and buy a c5-r engine for 25000(about the cost of a supra - the cost of a ws6 from the same year). 600 hsp definitly has its advantages.

or the 500 hp version for 19999.

A race ready dry sump 600 hsp engine.. mmmm..
Then get yourself a set of good koni shocks and decent set of springs(I prefer eibach).

The point is.. given the cost of the supras right now thanks to market demand they are a very poor performance per dollar value. They are a great car and I love them.. But 33000 for a 5 year old car.. it better be a ferrari.

[Bling]

The point is.. given the cost of the supras right now thanks to market demand they are a very poor performance per dollar value. They are a great car and I love them.. But 33000 for a 5 year old car.. it better be a ferrari.



agreed. i don't drive a talon cause I'm loaded. dollar for dollar speed, supra aint the choice on that one, i believe i wrote that above. but style, speed, and street props, for sure it is.

[T-Bird]

I'm sure when you blow the doors off Supras with your WS6 you will get your street credit that way instead of cruising around in your posseur Supra just because you saw it in a movie and had to have one.

[JiggaStyles09]

i say stick with the WS6 as well. i personaly dont like supras anymore.....i think paul walker ruined them for me, dont get me wrong they are wonderful cars and can handle ridiculous amounts of HP, but all the stupid ricer kids who have no idea what they are talking about regard the supra as the king of all cars ever made because paul walker drove one in some shitty movie, and im just sick of them. ok im done with my short little rant. :lol:

[PaulGT2164]

import vs domestic bullshit who the fuck cares? he has already DECIDED to get the supra..so instead of bitching back and forth about which is better, give the poor guy some advice...i mean come on..

so stop bickering and help him
and i am sure he doesnt want it cause of a movie..
and supras arent posseurs.....they cam with 320hp stock starting in 1993
there are supras that would hand a ws6 its ass in the curves and the straights, just like there are ws6s that will do the same, its all persoanl preference, so drop the argument and post something usefull

[Bling]

already did that paul, read above...

the arguing came later...

its all in good fun.

[JiggaStyles09]

import vs domestic bullshit who the fuck cares? he has already DECIDED to get the supra..so instead of bitching back and forth about which is better, give the poor guy some advice...i mean come on..

so stop bickering and help him
and i am sure he doesnt want it cause of a movie..
and supras arent posseurs.....they cam with 320hp stock starting in 1993
there are supras that would hand a ws6 its ass in the curves and the straights, just like there are ws6s that will do the same, its all persoanl preference, so drop the argument and post something usefull


chill out man im pretty sure in the first post he said that he was "thinking" of getting the supra, not decided. and everyone wasnt arguing over import/domestic, ppl were giving their opinions on the different cars, not flaming about them. :wink: and i never said that he was getting the supra because of the movie, i was just saying why i didnt like supras (not imports in general) that much anymore. 8) and there were some worthwhile posts in this topic, they werent all as useless as mine. :lol:

[blah]

WS6 all the way, hell supras almost cost as much as a used 03 Cobra. you can find cobras for high 20s now. If he wants a supra maybe he should look at a 03, with a Kenne Bell Blowzilla, OOO the posibilities are endless. Im not a supra fan, mainly because of the attitude most supra drivers have, even stock ones. Your car cant touch my car ever. My car was built by god himself. The WS6 is way faster stock, and handles better on a road course, and has the beasty V-8 sound. Just get that LS1 cammed, and 150 shot, and you got a sleeper, well until they hear the cam open up. Also WS6 looks way meaner than a supra.

[T-Bird]

alot of cars look meaner than a Supra they just don't have that I'm gonna kick your ass look like the WS6 has that thing is scary coming up on your ass. that and the fact that a WS6 can spin the wheels into second stock. IT's not realy sleeper and not realy mean it's just a simple looking Supra I don't even pay much attention to them anymore.