Takuma Sato's missed chances...

[Balls]

So what's up with Sato's Honda? Seems like he can't keep his finger off the step7 button or something... why is Jenson getting podiums and he gets dnf's?

Is this guy the king of unluckiness? Is it the team? Is it him?

[rob_e1]

Sato lacks experience, thats all. Same is true of Massa, and its also the same reason Pizzonia got dropped.

Some of these guys are super quick over a few laps but they don't have the experience to keep consistenly quick over the full race, or not lose concentration and make mistakes.

Agree sato was unlucky with the engine blow, but he almost crashed out on the grid - look at the start - he bangs wheels with shumacher..!

Problem is for teams like BAR, when they get a competitive car (finally) you want to have a driver who can capitalise on it, not someone who's just 'learning the ropes'.

Just my 02p.

[ae86_16v]

Sato lacks experience, thats all. Same is true of Massa, and its also the same reason Pizzonia got dropped.

Some of these guys are super quick over a few laps but they don't have the experience to keep consistenly quick over the full race, or not lose concentration and make mistakes.

Agree sato was unlucky with the engine blow, but he almost crashed out on the grid - look at the start - he bangs wheels with shumacher..!

Problem is for teams like BAR, when they get a competitive car (finally) you want to have a driver who can capitalise on it, not someone who's just 'learning the ropes'.

Just my 02p.

Yup exactly. He just can't hold it for over a period extended over a race.

What he needs to do is focus more on making less mistakes. This guy could be blistering fast during a few laps. He just gotta put it all together. He is a lot better now than when he debut with Jordan 2 years ago.

Go a bit slower and make less mistakes, more consistent results.

I hope that he'll have a chance to stay in F1.

[yg60m]

I think he's too "hot", big attack but not enough reflexion.
But he has a potential, i guess he's a god in japan :wink:

[Balls]

I guess i agree that he needs experience. It definitely shows. But I guess my point is that it seem that specfically this year, when he's in a "good" car his engines still blow up and yet button finishes every race. Malaysia, imola, montecarlo... that's three of six races. The other three he finishes in the top ten. (Twice in the top five!) So... just to kind of add more fuel to the fire.... what's up with that?

[mrzonda]

It's a bit of unluckiness, and inexperience, but he'll get there pretty soon I think.


Agree sato was unlucky with the engine blow, but he almost crashed out on the grid - look at the start - he bangs wheels with shumacher..!


That was awesome! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Toronto]

i think he just doesnt fit in an f1 car, he kills them, button has the same car and finishes very well, while sato just likes to blow them up :D

[Balls]

i think he just doesnt fit in an f1 car, he kills them, button has the same car and finishes very well, while sato just likes to blow them up :D

hehe... yeah i wonder if they're still using the 'vtec' button? haha... maybe he keeps pushing the button 8 times...

[dons5]

u think hes unlucky? Fisi is the one whos unlucky, he qualifies 10th with a Sauber (more then anyone else except M Schumacher both had 26 laps worth of fuel), and then satos stupid engine blows when BAR should of put Sato out instead of just waiting for it to blow, even itv-f1 said Fisi would of had 4th today ahead of Montoya and Possibly 3rd ahead of Rubens since Rubens was havin problems

[Balls]

AGAIN!!! This guy is gonna be so happy when he wins his first gp! haha

[szumszer]

sato needs to chill, today's race proves just that, too hot, he was trying to take out rubens or take out rubens in that turn one, what a stupid hot-headed move, don't turn into JPM, chill, get laid, relax, don't snort any coke like JPM, and for god's sake don't crash into number two car when you have plenty of chances to overtake later in the race, this was not the last corner of the race, chill; button won cause he is a better driver, all around, control goes beyond just car control, judgement counts a lot too, like control of emotions; he damaged his car, maybe that is why it blew up ... never know where pieces of carbon got stuck

[5vz-fe]

Yeah, he needs to chill and accept his failure. The following is from BBC Sport after the race:

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Sato rejects 'amateur' slur


Schumi storms to home win
Japan's Takuma Sato laughed off criticism from Rubens Barrichello after the pair collided in the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.
The drivers bumped as Sato attempted to pass second-placed Barrichello, who labelled the move "amateur".

But Sato said: "I laughed when I heard that - I was totally in control.

"It was just an unlucky situation - in this business you have to be ambitious," added Sato, who retired after his engine blew on lap 48.

Sato began the race from second on the grid - the first Japanese driver to do so - but was overtaken by Barrichello and Jarno Trulli after a poor start.

By lap 46 he was battling it out with the Ferrari driver for second place when the pair made contact.

The incident left Sato's car with a damaged nose cone, but the BAR driver maintained he was right to try to overtake.

"I had fresh tyres, I had a lot of grip and the car was so nice. He never looked up. He didn't see in his mirrors," Sato said.

Barrichello went on to finish second in a Ferrari one-two behind world champion Michael Schumacher.

__________________________________________________ ______________

What was he thinking? He's obviously running in to Rubens and Rubens is in the Racing line.

[szumszer]

ambitious is synonymous with stupid or illegal here? he could have knocked out rubens out of the race; I would think that a driver who after few years of stinking up F1 in an underfunded effort, having finally a good car and good chances for a podium would go for the podium finish, instead of accepting 3rd for time being with a chance to overtake rubens for 2nd during remaining few laps, sato chose to do something that was both illegal and stupid, he put himself out of the podium position and possibly due to other damage, out of the race; instead of 3rd or possibly 2nd, he yet again accomplished DNF; now that was both stupid and amateur-like, if he truly is japanese he perhaps should consider hare kiri

[hiroshima]

I think Sato is, mostly, unlucky. I really belive that he has skill.

[Balls]

wow... i guess i'm in the minority here but I think Rubens screwed up there... doesn't matter now since we know that Sato's engine failed. Regardless of why sato was there, be it that he is an amatuer or that he made a good move, rubens knew he was coming so he should have either taken a more defensive line or paid closer attention to sato's whereabouts.

[szumszer]

if you actually watched the race, there was one view of the incident that spoke volumes about sato's judgment, a view from the top (sky cam); rubens was at apex in the corner, when sato tried to squeeze into about 5 cm of inside line to pass him ... good move, if you are looking to knock off your opponent, and damage your car in the process, a bad one if you are trying to be fair and looking to continue racing to get other chances later to pass him

[Balls]

btw; i get up early to watch this stuff live from the pacific coast in the states, so your assumptions about my 'actually' watching the race aren't appreciated. =\

yeah i know the view you're talking about... i saw it... and i know what you're saying since he wasn't even close enough to rubens to try a move. I just didn't see any lockup from Sato so I figured rubens brake checked or just braked too early. Either way, it was a bad move for Sato since, as Rubino admits, he was faster than the ferrari. (he should have waited for a more appropriate time to pass) I guess I just wanted Sato to finish a race really badly. =\

[diegord]

I think Sato is fast and he's got a good car, after all is the same car Button drives. But I think he doesn't know when to tale his foot off of the acelerator. In the European GP he almost took Barrichelo out of the race. He was irresponsible!!!!
But I think he's still a good driver!!!!

[dons5]

i like Sato way better then Button cause Button is overhyped, Fisi would kill him in that same car she like he did to him in 01 and jus like he did to Ralfy in 97 and like he did and does to everyone of his teammates, Sato i like cause he is a harsh fighter and exciting to watch like a Montoya type driver can be really ragged sometimes we need guys like that in F1

[rob_e1]

i like Sato way better then Button cause Button is overhyped, Fisi would kill him in that same car she like he did to him in 01 and jus like he did to Ralfy in 97 and like he did and does to everyone of his teammates, Sato i like cause he is a harsh fighter and exciting to watch like a Montoya type driver can be really ragged sometimes we need guys like that in F1


Agree. Just about the most exciting thing that happened all race was taku ramming rubens :D

Oh, and button overtaking DC...

[ngudan]

Theres no doubt about it, Sato is young and fast! (young gun as they say)

His got alot of ammo in his gun.. i'm more curious about Rubens though. He is a totally different story to Shuey. Journalist reckon that his at his peak, yet, it doesn't look so. Great car, great team, but what happened to Rubeno!

[kteo2003]

i like Sato way better then Button cause Button is overhyped, Fisi would kill him in that same car she like he did to him in 01 and jus like he did to Ralfy in 97 and like he did and does to everyone of his teammates, Sato i like cause he is a harsh fighter and exciting to watch like a Montoya type driver can be really ragged sometimes we need guys like that in F1
i think you are a little esagerating with fisi...donnot underestimate the sauber has the chasis if ferrari 2003ga and the engine and gearbox of todays ferrari....oh and by the way he made a 2 pit stop tactic such as barrichello

[diegord]

Barrichello has the best car ever built in F1, but we cannot forget he's got the flying German as his team mate. Shumi has the same car but is a way greater driver than BArrichello...so that's the story for this season....Shumacher first, BArrichello in second..... But I think there are better drivers in the championship... for instance, if Button or Alonso or even Montoya were in a Ferrari, they could threat Schumacher kingdom....

[kteo2003]

Barrichello has the best car ever built in F1, but we cannot forget he's got the flying German as his team mate. Shumi has the same car but is a way greater driver than BArrichello...so that's the story for this season....Shumacher first, BArrichello in second..... But I think there are better drivers in the championship... for instance, if Button or Alonso or even Montoya were in a Ferrari, they could threat Schumacher kingdom....
i a little bit disagree with you....for another time guess what the team chose for schumacher a three pit stop tactic (especially at the first part had little fuel 7th round in pit stop)so as to let scumacher after the first pit stop to be exactly affter the train of renault mclaren and not somewhere between the jordan's or the jaquar's(what happened for example with trulli when he made a pit stop at round 9)...this tactic was brilliant instead for barichello they chose a 2 pit stop tactic.......
the same as coulthard and fisichella......

[dons5]

ahahah the sauber isnt the F2003-GA chassis, that was clarrified like many months ago, maybe you just dont follow F1 enough, and the gearbox is last years, while the engine is this years but im pretty sure they dont get the improvements and updates to there engine from Ferrari

[diegord]

ahahah the sauber isnt the F2003-GA chassis, that was clarrified like many months ago, maybe you just dont follow F1 enough, and the gearbox is last years, while the engine is this years but im pretty sure they dont get the improvements and updates to there engine from Ferrari

I agree with you... he wants us to believe the reason the Ferraris are always on the first role and the Saubers are always on the last one, is only the the drivers skills....give me a break!!!!
The modifications on the category are coming to make the reces more equally balanced, like a smaller and cheaper engine, the removal of traction control and the adoption of a manual gear box.... the drivers will have to show more work than!!!!

[dons5]

ya that will be so awesome man, goin smaller engine size is fine but i dont like the thing about going to have to use 8's we'll lose the scream of the 10's and i just noticed soemthing what iftoday we had 12's instead of 10's holy theyll be screaming even more!!!

[sqvvcd]

sato needs to chill, today's race proves just that, too hot, he was trying to take out rubens or take out rubens in that turn one, what a stupid hot-headed move, don't turn into JPM, chill, get laid, relax, don't snort any coke like JPM, and for god's sake don't crash into number two car when you have plenty of chances to overtake later in the race, this was not the last corner of the race, chill; button won cause he is a better driver, all around, control goes beyond just car control, judgement counts a lot too, like control of emotions; he damaged his car, maybe that is why it blew up ... never know where pieces of carbon got stuck

Agree w/you 100%! Lack of experience plus hot blooded equals big trouble. I just do note have any respect for "dirty racing". He tried to take out Ruben in this race, passed in the tunnel in Monaco.... down right stupid. JMO.

[Balls]

so i just saw taku spin in the last corner of qually... and uh... i really like this guy. hahaha

i hope he can learn to control himself.

[ae86_16v]

Another blown engine. . .

[Balls]

yes... what in the world is going on in the BAR camp???

could it be takuma's fault? i find it hard to believe that button is nursing his engine in any way.

[chipanggo]

maybe taku should chill out a bit. i know he's talented, but sometimes it seems as if he's over-driving the car. keep it cool taku, i'm sure you'll make it to the podium this year.

[ae86_16v]

Not this time :).

[Sm@ck]

I always get a kick out of this guy, he is slowly becoming one of my afavorite drivers.