Help the war against the cancer with your PC!

[midax]

It's not a joke or something... I'm extremely serious!

It it a project like seti@home but I think that this is more important and realistic than that.
All what you need to do is download a little program and make it running in background on your pc. Sometime the program will try to connect to internet to download a new working unit. And most important thing, the program will work to find a real cure against the cancer.
All the results will be sent to their database and then studied for possible solutions.
And to see how fast is running our PC they organize all in simple statistics, it's also possible to create teams and join in the preferred.

I'm in this program since october, when I found it, if you don't believe me just take a look to my statistics page: http://www.grid.org/services/teams/team_members.htm?id=7ABDBE08-F293-4282-A1D6-CA488000FE4D&ord=POINTS
I'm in a team yet, scroll down the page to find my nick.

Here: http://www.grid.org/home.htm you will find more detailed informations than me and my bad english can give you.

As I said before I'm running this program and if a real cure will be found I've given my little contribute!

[Zonda11]

We should start a Jabbas Team....I would run it on at least 1 of my PCs.

[midax]

There are things like that all over the world, many different projects.

I'm currently doing rc5-72, about cracking a 72bit encrypted key the hard way. It's usefull when you look at it from the point of safetyfeatures encryption gives you.

well... with all the respect for you and for that program I think that the research against the cancer is more important than everything... :wink:
Everyone is free to join in the program he want but I've read in some forums that seti@home or something else is more important and realistic than ligandfit (the name of this project against the cancer) and I cannot tolerate this!
Seti@home is realistic? Come on... aliens or similar can stay to their home for me.

As I said before, no problem with anyone. I just want to point out my opinion!

[RC45]

Noble concept.. however I have a rather cynical outlook.. they are wantung to use our PC's.... for free.... (in other words we absorb the cost of our electricity and hardware time)

Are they planning on sharing the 100 Trillion Dollars that a cure for cancer will generate for the research facility and associated drug companies that develop them?

When they pay me 1 penny per CPU cycle is when I will allow any of the "co-operative" projects to use my resources...

[he7lius]

Noble concept.. however I have a rather cynical outlook.. they are wantung to use our PC's.... for free.... (in other words we absorb the cost of our electricity and hardware time)

Are they planning on sharing the 100 Trillion Dollars that a cure for cancer will generate for the research facility and associated drug companies that develop them?

When they pay me 1 penny per CPU cycle is when I will allow any of the "co-operative" projects to use my resources...

Will all respect,
imagin you could be one of the people that may benefit from a possible cure.
I think if that happened you wouldn't care so much for your unused CPU cycles, would you??
It's like charity work.

[chaos]

Noble concept.. however I have a rather cynical outlook.. they are wantung to use our PC's.... for free.... (in other words we absorb the cost of our electricity and hardware time)

Are they planning on sharing the 100 Trillion Dollars that a cure for cancer will generate for the research facility and associated drug companies that develop them?

When they pay me 1 penny per CPU cycle is when I will allow any of the "co-operative" projects to use my resources...

how u feel tho if it was you, or your wife or mother etc who benefited from any cure.

sorry but i think your attitude is wrong in this instance.

[jon_s]

Interesting idea. I will give it a go.

Anyone fancy making a team??

EDIT:

look for Jabbas World in the join teams bit

[midax]

Noble concept.. however I have a rather cynical outlook.. they are wantung to use our PC's.... for free.... (in other words we absorb the cost of our electricity and hardware time)

Are they planning on sharing the 100 Trillion Dollars that a cure for cancer will generate for the research facility and associated drug companies that develop them?

When they pay me 1 penny per CPU cycle is when I will allow any of the "co-operative" projects to use my resources...

mmmm.... do you know the mean of the word "volunteer"?!?

[jon_s]

oh crap. i have a MAC and it says the system doesn't support a MAC yet. So it's a no go for me :(

Well, that just shat on your parade! lol Unlucky.

[RC45]

Noble concept.. however I have a rather cynical outlook.. they are wantung to use our PC's.... for free.... (in other words we absorb the cost of our electricity and hardware time)

Are they planning on sharing the 100 Trillion Dollars that a cure for cancer will generate for the research facility and associated drug companies that develop them?

When they pay me 1 penny per CPU cycle is when I will allow any of the "co-operative" projects to use my resources...

i read up on this more last night and will be participating in it.

while you are entitled to your opinion, let me just remind you that thousands of people contribute to the well being of others each and everyday in places all around the world. I know fellow physicians that have spent years in Africa working for free helping people with their medical problems.

There are cancer researchers who make petty change and have made nearly no income for years just so they could work on their project. I will be spending next year making less money than if i worked at McDonalds but i'm working on it because i would like to devote a year to use my creativity towards working on tumours in a lab setting.

and you are telling me you want them to pay you for the 1 cent of electricity it will take? i find that absurd. If YOU don't want to participate in this, then you have every right to say "sorry, i'm not really down for this", but your reasons sound a bit selfish. If you contribute to other charities daily/weekly/yearly then i apologize...but if this is your attitude towards all charity, then you should think about the meaning of "charity" a bit more.

As for wanting to use our "electricity for free" i don't believe that's the case. The bottom line is to try and use AS MUCH resource as possible. What cancer lab has access to a million computers? who is gonna buy them that? are you?

Drug companies will make billions no matter what. You boycotting charity is not gonna prevent them from doing so.

cheers and no offense is intended
everso

None offence taken - and drug companies making trillions from free the results of free research has NOTHING to do with the humanity involved... at some mundane "junior research level" (most of your levels of niave contribution) I am sure the cause is noble -- at senior levels the motivation is pure profit... perdiod

If the pursuit of a hair growth formula could have more upside potential - that is what their research agendas would be...

That is a fact.

Whether my contribution of 2 CPU cycles leads to the cure for cancer is immaterial - If I wanted to use that cure, it would still bancrupt me and take every penny I had to follow the treatment plan and purchase access to "this cure" - and the drug companies involved would not "reduce" the price in a humane attampt to get me access to the "cure" - so please don't try to lecture me on the morality from your soap boxes.

While I see the "noble community value" of all your contributions, you guys really need to cast a more realistic light on the whole schebang - in other words you need to be a little less niave in your outlook.

Volunteer work to help out in a disaster or for community building service etc it one thing - but volunteering freely to "help others" that is simply a disguised attempt to reduce cost to pursue an end for ultimate commercial gain - is wrong on principle.

:)

[Zonda11]

I will be running it on as many computers as I can find! I cannot figure out how to make a team.. so if someone could help me that would be great. This cause has effected my life many times, so it is very important to me.

[jon_s]

Zonda, I made a JW team...just put Jabbas World into the search for team and then join.

[RC45]

None offence taken - and drug companies making trillions from free the results of free research has NOTHING to do with the humanity involved... at some mundane "junior research level" (most of your levels of niave contribution) I am sure the cause is noble -- at senior levels the motivation is pure profit... perdiod

If the pursuit of a hair growth formula could have more upside potential - that is what their research agendas would be...

That is a fact.

Whether my contribution of 2 CPU cycles leads to the cure for cancer is immaterial - If I wanted to use that cure, it would still bancrupt me and take every penny I had to follow the treatment plan and purchase access to "this cure" - and the drug companies involved would not "reduce" the price in a humane attampt to get me access to the "cure" - so please don't try to lecture me on the morality from your soap boxes.

While I see the "noble community value" of all your contributions, you guys really need to cast a more realistic light on the whole schebang - in other words you need to be a little less niave in your outlook.

Volunteer work to help out in a disaster or for community building service etc it one thing - but volunteering freely to "help others" that is simply a disguised attempt to reduce cost to pursue an end for ultimate commercial gain - is wrong on principle.

:)

i think you are worrying FAR too much about the drug companies, when in reality, this project is not even done by drug companies. This is a scientific project.

Speaking from a medical professional point of view, your argument doesn't stand at all. If this were true, then no one would be treated at the hospital, because we would want to prevent the drug companies from getting rich.

As i said before, it's an open fact that drug companies make money, but that is not about to halt the SCIENCE of it all. They are two entirely separate things.

So what should we do with Hepatitis patients and/or HIV patients...just not treat them because we don't wanna the drug companies rich? i don't think so...

You seem to have hijacked "the cure" thread.. ;)

Treating/selling the cures after the fact is not at stake - "free research" is... ;)

Good luck to all. :)

[RC45]

How naive... science IS business... *BIG* business... the BIGGEST... ;)

[chaos]

surely its more important to find a cure than worrying about who will profit from it.

what wud u rather do, live longer or die early but slightly richer

[he7lius]

It's a shame to see only a few taking part in this good idea. :( :(

[Zonda11]

It's a shame to see only a few taking part in this good idea. :( :(

Right on the mark

[jon_s]

Come on people! join up

[he7lius]

It's a shame to see only a few taking part in this good idea. :( :(

Right on the mark

I don't know if this happens to you guys but i have at moment 531 points but when i see the stats for the Jabbas World team it says 0 :( , but i can see Zonda11 :D and jon_s :D scores
Can u guys see mine???

[jon_s]

when did you start?? They get updated once every 24hrs I am on 1200point atm...p.s Zonda, your computer works fast!

If you have no points by tomorrow:


Why are my personal points not updating, even though the UD Agent downloads new work units?
Several situations can cause this to happen:

1) Problems experienced during the transmission of results may cause the return to be discarded. This is very rare. If you are consistently not getting points, this probably doesn't apply to you-its probably one of the issues below.

2) Check to see if your number of work units returned is incrementing. If it is, you may have a bug in which the UD Agent works for long periods of time, but only reports a very low cpu time on task. This is very infrequent. If your number is not incrementing, you have a different issue.

3) Sometimes a computer "hiccup" causes the UD Agent to abandon the work unit. This may not be noticeable if you leave the UD Agent running in the background with unrestricted access to the internet, in which case it may appear that the UD Agent completed the work unit and downloaded a new one when it did not. It would also account for recent reports/posts where members notice that the UD Agent only gets xpercentage done then logs in and downloads a new work unit.

If you systematically do not receive points but are constantly downloading new work unit, please check the UD Agent's directory for legacy work unit files. The default directory is c:\program files\united devices, and the work unit files are ud_#, where the # is replaced by a number. There is no extension, and the icon should be the windows symbol because they are not associated with any application.

Doing a clean install of the UD Agent should alleviate this problem. To do a clean install of the UD Agent, please do the following:

1) Close the UD Agent by minimizing the window if it is open, then right clicking on its icon in the system tray and clicking on "Exit."

2) Uninstall the UD Agent from [Start][Settings][Control Panel][Add/Remove Programs].

3) Check to ensure that the UD Agent's directory (by default c:\program files\united devices) has been deleted. If it is not, delete it and all files.

4) Check for the presence of the udwin dll file (in c:\windows\system in windows 9x and ME or c:\winnt\system32 in NT and 2000). If it is still present delete it.

5) If you have your original install file, delete it.

6) If you performed any of the above manual deletions, empty the recycle bin.

7) Install the latest service pack updates from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/. Download a new copy of the UD Agent.

8) Restart your machine.

9) Open Task Manager by holding down the Ctrl and Alt keys and hitting Del once. Highlight each program and click on End Task. If using Windows 9x you must open Task Manager again for each entry. The only entries that you do not want to run End Task on are Explorer, Systray, and your firewall.

10) Install the UD Agent from the newly downloaded file. Restart the computer.

[BADMIHAI]

They can suck my balls. I'm with "asshole" *ahem RC on this one. The agreement allows them to use "third parties" in the software, which means they are probabily making lots of $$$ from advertisements while you're running the software. Why would I give them my resources? If it was a non-profit organization, I would've done it.

[jon_s]

I am sure Oxford Uni are paying them millions.

[Anonymous]

thought i might aswell join up as my comp is on nearly all the time! i was uncertain about joining up due to a recent computer problem which i think i've now solved. The more that join the quicker the process will be

**EDIT** Um one small problem- the programme is looking at my rescue disk despite me installing it on my main disk, i don't usually write files to this disk- anyone know how to change this?

BTW joined Jabbasworld team!

[TVR_Fan]

A PC megazine has gone in the chellege against the top supercomputers and PC's and, the PC megazines name is Custom PC.

[jon_s]

Anyone else having problems connecting?? Mine can't send results or do any work!

AL123, have a look in the settings, there may be something there :?

[Anonymous]

Yeah since yesterday its been trying to connect to the server, i checked the homepage and couldn't even get on that yesterday but i seem to be able t get on now i'll take a look probably server probs i would guess!

**EDIT** yep down taken from forum message

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:59 am Post subject: UD Servers Down

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The UD Servers are down. Your agents will backoff as they where designed.

Due to an electrical problem in the building the UD servers are down. A main router within our datacenter has been taken out by this problem and have been left without a spare or alternative that can serve to function in this time of need. All servers are functioning normally and no data has been lost. They just simply can't be routed in the direction they need to go at this time.

At this time I can not give an ETA for when this issue will be resolved. I will keep you posted as new information is available.

Thank You
paul

[jon_s]

I think Jabbas World Team broke it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as it is not just me! :lol:

[midax]

somethimes the main server goes down for manteinance or simply to update all the statistics. When it happens it isn't possible to send or receive work units. :|

[Zonda11]

THis sux. I can't continue to open up a lead!

[ae86_16v]

I am working on Protein Folding @ Home.

[jon_s]

Yep, it is back up and running!

[suqish76]

this has hit me in a big way (so to speak)
my grandmother died from cancer and now my father has just been diagnosed with a tumour. :(
i will join asap

[Zonda11]

this has hit me in a big way (so to speak)
my grandmother died from cancer and now my father has just been diagnosed with a tumour. :(
i will join asap

Sorry to hear that....2 of my grandparents died from Cancer and my mother had it just over a year ago, but has had treatment and is ok.

[jon_s]

Ahhhhhh Zonda! I have discovered your secret! I was looking at the stats, getting confused at the average hours per day! You have something like 1day,10hrs,30mins,28sec lol.........how is that possible I thought! Ahhhh you have 3 devices! Doh! :lol:

[Zonda11]

Ahhhhhh Zonda! I have discovered your secret! I was looking at the stats, getting confused at the average hours per day! You have something like 1day,10hrs,30mins,28sec lol.........how is that possible I thought! Ahhhh you have 3 devices! Doh! :lol:

LOL...surprised it took you so long....ya i'm doubleing your hours....but 2 of them are not that wonderful..... i am buying a fast laptop in a few months....so watch out.


I would like this much better if i had 10 3.4GHz PCs :D :D

[Anonymous]

Seems to run quite slowly on my 2.8ghz laptop, and it gets stuck on the indication of % done, i might have to reinstall?

[midax]

absolutely not! The time depends by the complexity of the protein you are simulating. It may take several hours to calculate only one ligand.
Click the second button on the main program (application) and watch the progress of the ligands (usually 20). Every time you finish a ligand the % will increase of 4 or 5 points a time.

[Anonymous]

absolutely not! The time depends by the complexity of the protein you are simulating. It may take several hours to calculate only one ligand.
Click the second button on the main program (application) and watch the progress of the ligands (usually 20). Every time you finish a ligand the % will increase of 4 or 5 points a time.

Thing is it did the same the first time i did it then suddenly jumped like to 90% perhaps its just not updating properly, i'll se how it goes in the next few days

[midax]

Damn.. I forgot to say that when you install for the first time this program it is configured to run both:
1) United Devices Cancer Research Project, Phase II
2) PatriotGrid running the Smallpox Research Grid Project

And if you want to run only the research against the cancer you have to disable the second option from you member profile.

What you're saying means that you're currently run the Smallpox Research.

To be sure of what you're running you should see how many ligands you have to calculate. If they're 20, you're right and running the cancer research. If they're 110, 200, or more, you're running the other project.

So, be sure to deselect the second option :mrgreen:

[Anonymous]

Damn.. I forgot to say that when you install for the first time this program it is configured to run both:
1) United Devices Cancer Research Project, Phase II
2) PatriotGrid running the Smallpox Research Grid Project

And if you want to run only the research against the cancer you have to disable the second option from you member profile.

What you're saying means that you're currently run the Smallpox Research.

To be sure of what you're running you should see how many ligands you have to calculate. If they're 20, you're right and running the cancer research. If they're 110, 200, or more, you're running the other project.

So, be sure to deselect the second option :mrgreen:

Yeah did that when i first registered, i'll leave my comp on tonight with nothing much running see if it works ok then