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lushann
05-10-2004, 11:04 AM
Last year, I went for the worldwide launch of the SLR in Cape Town, South Africa. I was amazed.
The launch was made more popular by the fact that some moron mistakely crashed his 1990 golf into one of the 8 cars that were brought down. There were 7 silver and one black SLR - he crashed into the black one.

A few days ago, I saw the Enzo Ferrari - it was truly unbelievable.

After having seen both these cars, I can easily say that the SLR cannot compare to the Enzo. The Enzo will beat it hands down in every department.

I thought that I should bring this up because some people think that the SLR is the best car ever created.

RC45
05-10-2004, 11:26 AM
UHm - there is not a single regular on the site that would make that claim.

The claim that the SLR is a better performer than the Enzo cannot be made - and we all know that... ;)

yg60m
05-10-2004, 11:32 AM
They are not really in the same league and don't have the same target :wink:
I easily believe you mate and the Enzo is growing more and more in my heart. First, i was disppointed by its look but i am convinced now .

Drive4Ever
05-10-2004, 11:39 AM
SLR i think is more towards the luxury and enzo is more towards racing :)
so there are almost no comparsion. SLR can fit 2 golf bags in there, y u need that if its a race car :roll:

jorge
05-10-2004, 12:59 PM
They are both supercars, but very different ones

Toronto
05-10-2004, 02:52 PM
I would rather have the SLR in my driveway then the Enzo, just because the enzo is such a wanna be, it wants to be the best, it wants to be the dream car of everyone, but my dream car is the CGT, and SLR wouldn't be a bad daily driver :D

Drogear
05-10-2004, 02:54 PM
The Enzo is so much more of a car! The SLR is just a really fast SL in a new body. It is really heavy and not worth the money!

SPEEDKILLAR
05-10-2004, 03:07 PM
SLR rulez that poor Enzo :x

And I claim that!!!

Erez
05-10-2004, 07:07 PM
the SLR isn't even close to the enzo in any way! 8) the SLR is just an overpriced CL.. a bit faster.. but nothing more.. looks kinda funny IMO.. like an unfinished concept... and WTF is up with MB.. that much weight IS NOT the way to build a supercar.. for the SL and the CL it ok.. cause you buy them for the lux and sporty.. but on the SLR!? who the fuck will use that as a daily?! MB need to take a good look on their cars.. WAY too much weight... WAY TOO MUCH! would buy the SLR in a million years...

Chaos in 1983!
05-11-2004, 02:14 AM
just because the enzo is such a wanna be


how is the enzo a WANNA BE?...it's all it was meant to be and even more!...Enzo is THE modern supercar, please don't bring up the McLaren, we all know the answer to that...but that matter aside, the enzo doesn't want to be anything else that it already is....the SLR is just a rebodied SL...I'm sure the SL65 is faster than the SLR...

nejcdolinsek
05-11-2004, 02:15 AM
I agree. The Enzo is a ultra-fast racing car capable of driving on roads, whle the SLR is an ultra-fast GT.

But in any case, I'd take the Enzo in a heartbeat!!!! :P

PATo355
05-11-2004, 02:49 AM
Bah , you cant beat the Ferrari passion , Mercs and Bmw and all that cars are made with engienering , just that , no passion for the cars , just sell cars and numbers , Ferrari is just about passion , making the best of the best with love , its not just a material thing , it has a magic . So please dont even compare the McLaren ( Merc or Bmw based ) with the Enzo ... the Enzo is in another league , up with the 288gto , f40 . f50 ... up there with the legends , not with just another ultra fast car .

1zippo1
05-11-2004, 03:00 AM
just because the enzo is such a wanna be


how is the enzo a WANNA BE?...it's all it was meant to be and even more!...Enzo is THE modern supercar, please don't bring up the McLaren, we all know the answer to that...but that matter aside, the enzo doesn't want to be anything else that it already is....the SLR is just a rebodied SL...I'm sure the SL65 is faster than the SLR...

Couldn't resist to join in with the discussion :D

The SLR is indeed quite a different car then the Enzo. They're both supercars, but the Enzo is a beast that has racetrack written all over it. It is made to go as fast as possible, in a straight line and in corners. Some trackday cars like the Radical or Palmer Jag will screw it on a curvy track. But on some other tracks with long straights, the enzo will probably blast those away. The point I'm trying to make, the Enzo is about as fast as you can get, so a true supercar and certainly a more pure supercar as the SLR.
The SLR is ment to be a cruiser, a very fast one for sure, but still a cruiser. That's why it has an automatique gearbox. You see it doesn't hurt sales, so Mercedes Benz didn't make such a bad move with the SLR. They'll probably make a lot more money out of it then ferrari did with the enzo.

About your SL65 vs SLR claim: don't think that's correct. The SLR may be heavy for a supercar, but it's still a lot lighter then an SL.
I also think (not 100% sure), that the SLR is also quite different from setup then the SL. The engine of the SLR is also in the front, but much more in the middle of the car then with the SL. The SL65 sure is impressive, certainly the torque, but I don't think it's as fast as the SLR.

Some performance figures :
SLR:626hp / 575 lb-ft = 780NM / 3.8 0-60mph / 207 mph top speed / 1768kg
SL65: 612hp / 738 lb-ft = 1000NM / 4.2 0-60mph / 155mph electronically limited / 1950kg

Oh and by the way, to return to the start of this topic, what seems weird to me. So you saw both the SLR & the Enzo. And by seeing it, you knew the Enzo would be better then the SLR? You can hardly see that no?

sau_mathur
05-11-2004, 05:46 AM
"The Enzo is probably not as elegant or pratical as the Mclaren f1, or not as exotic as the Pagani Zonda...but it does what Ferrari are good at...it goes around racing tracks very very fast." ....Tiff Needell

RC45
05-11-2004, 06:04 AM
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
- Niels Bohr (1885-1962)

5.7 V10
05-11-2004, 01:26 PM
I would rather have the SLR in my driveway then the Enzo, just because the enzo is such a wanna be, it wants to be the best, it wants to be the dream car of everyone, but my dream car is the CGT, and SLR wouldn't be a bad daily driver :D

Agreed!

MercedeSChink
05-11-2004, 05:38 PM
lets just say the SLR is more like a private jet plane with hot stewardess servicing you, while the Enzo is like a F-18 breaking the sound barrier...

ahmedgiyab
05-11-2004, 05:42 PM
I would take the Enzo....then sell it....then buy a SLR... :wink:

....and buy a F360 and a DB9... :lol:

DMbaseball1604
05-11-2004, 05:44 PM
I would rather have the SLR in my driveway then the Enzo, just because the enzo is such a wanna be, it wants to be the best, it wants to be the dream car of everyone, but my dream car is the CGT, and SLR wouldn't be a bad daily driver :D

Agreed!

I agree as well

hemi_fan
05-11-2004, 08:44 PM
Id take the SLR over the Enzo, I hate the enzos styling, its sound, and it just gives me a bad vibe. On the other hand, i love the slr's looks (except the penis shaped nose), I love GT's, and whenever i watch vidz of them, i have to turn off the sound to stop myself from creaming my pants. They are very different. but if it came down to what would i buy with unlimited money, id have to go for the koenigsegg (call me crazy).

Gnome
05-12-2004, 03:35 AM
lets just say the SLR is more like a private jet plane with hot stewardess servicing you, while the Enzo is like a F-18 breaking the sound barrier...
That's actually a quite good comparison.

The SLR is too heavy and the Enzo is too racy, so none of them are any good! No, that's a joke. I love them both, but I'm not able to compare them.

The Enzo will beat the SLR in every aspect except luggage space and sound. The looks are an endless discussion because they both are radically designed. A more classical design is easier to evaluate, because they don't have to grow on you first.

MercedeSChink
05-12-2004, 10:12 AM
just on a side note, did you guys now the SLR wheels were made by OZ racing? I was just flippin through the brochure and noticed it saying that...

kteo2003
05-12-2004, 02:49 PM
the slr is a fast automatik car........some people even said that since there is the sl 6.0biturbo slr shouldnt exist.....i would take the enzo without second thoughts...

callen
05-12-2004, 09:34 PM
again not a proper comparison, but ill say my view neways. gimme an enzo any day i dont care that it costs a few hundred thousand more, and i dot care that for the money i could probably have an slr and a 360 challenge. the enzo is ferrari's modern day interpretation of what the ultimate road car should be. faster than anything u can imagine, (to qoute TT 'makes u blackout under hard accelaration g forces") styling as excessive as the engine is exotic. and lets not forget among other things the badge on the boot. nothing beats a prancing horse, definately not an over priced heavy ass mercedes benz. i dont care that mclaren had input, IMO they didnt have nearly enuf. :wink:

MercedeSChink
05-12-2004, 09:51 PM
i think the old and tubby execs at merc wanted to fit into a F1 car, but couldn't so they made their company to make them a comfortable 'F1' car...but as a big merc fan, i still like and would prefer the SLR than the Enzo because of its practicallity...

itsthepham
05-12-2004, 10:24 PM
the only thing cool about the SLR that the Enzo wouldnt have is carpet and some leather here and their - Ferrari is a breed dedicated to racing, of course the Benz cant compete - But if other things came into effect as to driveability - getting it registered in california !!! theeen ... both of them suck

pagani
05-17-2004, 04:23 PM
The slr is much lighter round 1640 kg mark and has set the fastest laptime roud the topgear track.
I take over the enzo any day because in don't like ferrari(ferari is a playboy car)!!!
:twisted: :!:

MB300E87
05-17-2004, 06:14 PM
i would never really even compare the two.

Erez
05-17-2004, 06:58 PM
The slr is much lighter round 1640 kg mark and has set the fastest laptime roud the topgear track.
I take over the enzo any day because in don't like ferrari(ferari is a playboy car)!!!
:twisted: :!:

god may forgive you one day for that... but i wont!! :twisted:

Erez
05-17-2004, 07:02 PM
the only thing cool about the SLR that the Enzo wouldnt have is carpet and some leather here and their - Ferrari is a breed dedicated to racing, of course the Benz cant compete - But if other things came into effect as to driveability - getting it registered in california !!! theeen ... both of them suck

no.. its not that they both suck.. it's california that sucks!! fucking health nuts! :lol:

tigerx
05-17-2004, 07:14 PM
well i wouldn't choose either one, first of all it attract way too much attention, secondly i don't like their look that much, the SLR is too aggressive and the Enzo just look kinda weird somehow. both car goes very well though so i can't complain bout that. If i can take any super car i would choose either the CGT or the Ford GT. they are much much better looking.

oh btw i don't like the fact that the SLR brakes glow and catches on fire either. :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :?

bobafett
05-18-2004, 01:51 AM
Ah the supremeness of inanity...

--Dan